Image management workflow.

Hi
I've been using Aperture for a while now and I generally import to the AP library then archive to a separate drive and/or DVD.
I am about to go on a job and want to produce a streamlined workflow for the file management. Basically we will be using my clients Laptop with AP but I will need all the images transferred onto my iMac when the job is complete so that I can finish the image processing/tweaking. Also I would like a back-up of the images on two separate hard drives as the job progresses.
If this is enough info could someone explain the best workflow ie referenced masters, exporting projects etc
Thanks in advance.

Steve or other person of knowledge,
I read your response with interest. You seem to think that the ratings will export from AP and the re-import... That for me is very interesting. I have tried this between AP and iPhoto and between those two it unfortunately does not seem to work or I am doing something wrong. Do you have any insights as to why this would be and how I could resolve this?
Why?...:
I am trialing Aperture (strictly as an amature) to use it for managing the workflow (importing RAW off D80 while renaming, rejecting, rating, key-wording and adjusting some for lighting problems). The filed RAW images to that point become the originals archive.
Then I would like to export anything rated 3 star or higher to iPhoto as a <1mb JPG for use by the rest of the family on the MAC or Apple TV etc. The problem with the transfer to iPhoto is that the ratings get lost and the smartfolders don't pick up the right images.
You may ask: why not use AP full stop. Answer: maybe I should, but I like the iPhoto simplicity and especially the way it works with events. Also family use of that does not threaten the AP library.
Can you help with this, even if it means advising I am doing things in the wrong way.
Many thanks, Floor

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Java Plug-in 1.5.0_04
Using JRE version 1.5.0_04 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
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h: display this help message
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basic: Initializing applet ...
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Yes, I do
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The one image that did work (LiteTouchPE_x64.wim) was from the OS I imported to Microsoft Workbench but the components are different to any that I have seen online when looking on how to do this.
I have made sure that the architecture is x64 and tried from ISO files I have on the system already but get the same error.
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Yes I am trying to capture a reference image that I have created on another machine and then reploy this through MDT. I am trying to open the Unattend.xml file because the "Capture and Sysprep" fails on the reference machine when trying to run
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Performing operation "generate" on Target "Catalog".
Starting: "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Deployment Toolkit\Bin\Microsoft.BDD.Catalog35.exe" "D:\Windows8.1 TEST3\Operating Systems\Windows8.1 x64\Sources\install.wim" 1 > "C:\Users\*****\AppData\Local\Temp\3\Microsoft.BDD.Catalog.log"
2>&1
No existing catalog file found.
PROGRESS: 0: Starting.
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PROGRESS: 5: Creating temp folder: C:\Users\*****\AppData\Local\Temp\3\IMGMGR_install_temp_qj0x3ga5.obv.
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Lightroom image management - ready for professionals?

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I have a client, which is doing professional gardening photography for various magazines in this topic. Her business ranges from magazine reports about individual gardens to delivering single images to different publishers as requested (for example by flower type, color etc.). The main thing is that her image portfolio isn't organized so much in individual shoots or contracts. An image can be sent to many publishers at any time. She needs to kepp track of this. She needs to know, which image has been published when and where.
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In essence the program isn't really capable of managing image data, which has a one to many relationship to the image (i.e. the instances of cases an image is sent to a customer). We experimented with virtual copies, which can carry individual metadata, collections (which cannot carry metadata) or storing the required data in the large description field. None of these possibilites were really satisfying. The most promising solution in using virtual copies, ended up in a maintenance nightmare, because it was too easy to forget, where to do which data management (at the master raw file or at the virtual copy).
Then, I learned that with Lightroom 2 there is a possibility to extend metadata, but, unfortunately with the usual limitation of not supporting one to many data (in the SDK-documentation called "spreadsheet type data"). The rest of the SDK documentation did not reveal any other helpful way of solving the problem as the SDK deals mainly with export plugin programming or web stuff, which is of no use to the client. It is rather disappointing that Lightroom's extensibility is still so limited. Where is the programming interface, that allows the development of complete new modules?
Given the slow pace, Lightroom development takes (I can expect that "breakthrough" extensions to the SDK will take even longer), I guess that my client can wait for another 3 or 5 years until anything close to true image management will come up.
So we have to look for some intermediate solutions. Whereas other software (expression media, idimager, cumulus) may have better database capabilities, they lack in raw editing completely and are often more awkward to use. Therefore, I would like to ask the community here, how they handle the tasks described above with Lightroom or with other tools? Perhaps we have overlooked a Lightroom capability?
One thing I thought of is to develop a special keyword hierarchy for contracts, but this also would not allow, all the images tracking needed.
Any ideas? I guess there aren't any plugins, which can deal with one to many data.
Kind regards
Thomas

Actually, we haven't ruled out keywords yet, in fact, at the moment it seems to be the only realistic possibility. However, I wonder if a growing keyword hierarchy can become unwieldy at the end, so I am sceptical, if this idea would deliver.
In general, I think that Lightroom should more move into the direction of beeing a platform for other vendors. The limitation to web stuff and export solutions isn't enough. I hope to see third party vendor modules, eventually one which provides more professional image management and tracking capabilites, exploring the fact that Lightroom has a database underneath it.
I would like to see a DxO raw conversion module or a lens correction module, fields where I think Lightroom and ACR are still not the best in its class (I think LightZone and DxO are the better raw processing engines).
Unfortunately, I do not see Lightroom going much into this direction. Probably this is already too late for the version 3 release, due in 2010 (?), so we need to wait until v4 (in 2012 ?) until the situation improves?
I believe many customers (especially professionals with precious time) need a fully integrated system, which can do image management and image adjustment at the same time. Lightroom is the right platform for it, if Adobe let it be.
Kind regards
Thomas

System Image Manager

Where can I download the Windows System Image Manager?
I want to setup a preinstallion image and I need to generate an answer file but I need the SIM.

WSIM is part of the Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK). Download it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c7d4bc6d-15f3-4284-9123-679830d629f2&DisplayLang=en

Image Management System

Is it possible to employ photoshop album starter edition as an image management system for our College staff? The system would require to be searchable over out Intranet and contain many images.

It depends exactly what you want to be able to do. I doubt very much whether you could really get the functionality you'd need, as it's not was PSA SE 3 was designed for.
The paid-for versions have slightly more flexibility, but they are not designed to be multi-user. There are other products designed for such purposes, but they tend to be a little costly.

What/Where is the 32-bit version of Windows System Image Manager?

I'm running into the problem described as follows in the WAIK documentation: "Windows SIM fails to create a catalog for a 32-bit Windows image from a 64-bit version of Windows SIM. To workaround this issue, use the 32-bit version of Windows SIM to
create catalogs for your Windows images."
Question: Where is the 32-bit version of Windows SIM? I can only find a single download for "The Windows® Automated Installation Kit (AIK) for Windows® 7"
Or are the 32-bit tools included in that version? If so, how do I use those instead?

Hi,
The issue should occurs when you install the WAIK on a 64bit Windows 7 machine.
You need install WAIK on a 32bit machine.
Different binary versions of Windows SIM cannot create catalog files for some Windows images of different architecture types. We recommend using the
32-bit version of Windows SIM to create catalog files because this version can create catalogs for all Windows image architecture types. The following list describes the Windows SIM architecture types and catalogs that can be created for each Windows
image architecture type.
x86 Image Manager. Can
create catalogs for x86, x64, and Itanium-based Windows images.
x64 Image Manager. Can
create catalogs only for x64 Windows images.
Itanium-based Image Manager.
Can create catalogs only for Itanium-based Windows images.
This article may helpful to you:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd744249(WS.10).aspx
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Leo
Huang
Leo Huang
TechNet Community Support

Upload/Insert PDF with Image Manager

I used to be able to insert a PDF and MP3 file through the Image Manager within the Item Description area but for some time have not been able to. I had asked the question in the old forums to no resolve. I've tried multiple sites from multiple browsers on both Mac and Windows but same issue.
What I do:
1.) From within any webpage/web app item description text area, I click on the Image Manager icon (little picture with sun and mtn. in the toolbar above the text area) and the Image Manager opens up.
2.) Now the Image Manager DOES allow me to upload both PDF and MP3 files onto the server from here (which is good). Then I go to the list and find the file on the server, I'll select the file and then click on "Insert" but the Image Manager just closes and nothing is inserted into the Item Description area.
This had worked for many years and like I said I can't get it to work in any testing scenerio. Same issue everytime when inserting, nothing gets inserted. The only alternative is manually inserted the href into the HTML but several of my clients have difficulty with this and it used to work before.
I know it's been stated that the Literature/Media Module is how you handle files but this is way more cumbersome then it should be and the way I and my clients used to do it through the Image Manager worked great. Any help or clarification would be great. I can't even find if this is a feature done away with. Thank you for the help.

Tersieff,
I know you mentioned it had worked for your over the years. However I would recommend using the either the file manager or better the media downloads to upload and manage your media files. I see that it would come in handy to be able to select the file through the image manager, but I don't think it's working for media files other than images. Using the media downloads you will be able to provide a download link to this file, the downside is that you will have to manually enter the module for each media download within the item description.
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Scanner calibration for colour-managed workflow

I would like to do a decent calibration of my Epson V750 Pro scanner to achieve a colour-managed workflow. I have the latest version X-Rite i1 Photo Pro 2 calibration kit, and although this enables me to calibrate my monitor and printer, it does not support scanner calibration. I do have Silverfast Ai Studio which includes a scanner calibration facility - is that the best available to me or are there any other options, possibly using the i1 spectrophotometer as I know that it used to be possible to carry out calibration with the older versions of that equipment? Other than that, I'm using an Espon 3880 printer, running Vista x64 and using Photoshop CS5.

Mike is probably right, the Epson profiles available in the Epson scanner sw are close enough. I;ve never seen any ******** about scanner output in this forum.

Image management workflow.

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