In Place Audio Editing

Are there any plans to further support/ expand in place audio editing for Logic? I really miss being able to apply and print a plug-in to a specific region from a drop down menu or right click like I can in Cubase and Pro Tools. If Apple can get that sorted I'll have virtually no need to reach for another DAW.

Ruis MacDoo wrote:
Can you automate the plugin to work on an individual region. I do this with Sony Dynamics and EQ, saves doing it on another track as the other poster said.
Really a time consuming workaround for direct audio editing using any of your installed plugins. I almost always know how I want to edit and for brevity's sake I find it much easier to just go ahead and make the edit. For audio only sessions I use Cubase for this very reason, plus Cubase has a modern audio editor, one of the most functional and elegant available in a DAW.
The disadvantage of using an external editor is being able to quickly audition your edits in place, but yes, it's better than no choices at all.
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