Audio editing,logic- pro8

I watched the tutorial on audio editing in logic- pro8.
I tried using all tools mentioned in the tutorial none worked.
I do a lot of audio editing,the tools mentioned in the
tutorial could be very helpful if they worked.If anyone has used these tools
please give me some insite on this matter.

During audio editing I have use for all of the tools mention in the tutorial.How else can I explain?
I'm editing live audio recorded by me.I've tried the tools in the wave editor and in the region( track ) area. Tools don't work as per instruction.

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Editing FCP project audio in another audio application (Logic, PT or DP)

Many thanks in advance for any help - I am wrapping up a score for a friend's documentary and just don't have time or video knowledge to figure this out on my own.
I need to edit sound in his Final Cut Pro project in another application. Pro Tools, Logic or Digital Performer. I can't just get AIF bounces because in many cases I need to access his edits, requiring much of the raw audio immediately preceding and following his cuts.
What is the quickest way to do this? Do OMF files preserve raw audio? XML?
Again, many thanks for your input.

I found the XML approach to be the most reliable, but you need access to the full FCP project and all the assets for Logic to load it, which can be a pain due to project sizes.
OMF works, but doesn't preserve some of the audio mix settings, despite including them in the file. Sometimes this is important, sometimes less so. Not sure if recent versions of Logic have improved this behaviour.
Either will get the audio into Logic at the right places and preserves edits, and OMF is the simpler way of doing it. I can't remember offhand if the OMF export allows you to add handles on the audio - in the main what OMF does is repackage out the audio into new audio files inside the OMF bundle, so you get everything in the timeline but not audio either side of the cuts.
Edit: Yes, OMF export does give you the option of adding handles on the audio files.
If you need everything, the using XML and the original assets is the way to go imo.
Otherwise, OMF will get you the audio in a more convenient package (one file with all the embedded audio reexported inside it.)

Duet makes noise after switching between finder audio and Logic

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My Duet makes noise after switching between "finder audio" and "Logic", In other words i would play a mp3 in the finder and when returning to Logic all my audio sounds like the "lo-fi" RTAS free plug digidesign gives away now.
This is happening on a White *iMac 24"*
Model Name: iMac
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Does this happen every single time? The same thing happens to me every once in a while. I just close Logic and Maestro and unplug the Duet. Then, in this order, plug in the Duet, wait for it to click, load Maestro, load Logic. Works every time.
Edit: It does only seem to happen when I switch from Logic and the audio output from the Duet to internal and then come back quickly. I don't think it's an issue with the Duet hardware itself.
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Best workflow for editing Logic Pro 8 regions/tracks in Soundtrack Pro?

I've searched for a solution for the below question in several forums and to no avail. Thanks in advance for any help!
What is the easiest workflow for editing Logic Pro 8 audio files with Soundtrack Pro 2? And I'm thinking of a process very similar to the Final Cut Pro timeline audio-to- Soundtrack Pro Audio File project workflow.
I'd imagine that a good amount of the time, I'd be editing regions rather than full audio files -- as in, once in a while, while mixing sessions that another engineer has tracked, I'll hear clicks and pops from pre-amps clipping; or I'll hear an air conditioner blower running or something.
Basically, I occasionally hear noise in the arrange window while mixing that I'd like to edit out with Soundtrack Pro, and I need to know the easiest way to send that audio clip to Soundtrack Pro and then back to Final Cut Pro.

Connecting your FS Mobile to powered speakers will not increase latency. Latency is simply the fixed amount of time it takes for your computer to process sounds. Once the sound is processed and available at the outputs of the FS Mobile, it can go anywhere; to a PA mixer, a separate monitor mixer, headphones, etc. One thing you will want to consider when playing live is to have a personal monitor very close to you and pretty loud. The reason being is that the physical distance between you and the main PA speakers will itself induce a type of latency since sound travels at about 1126 ft/sec or 1000 msec of delay for every 1126 feet. Adding this delay to your latency could make holding a groove or pitch for that matter nearly impossible. The delays add up pretty quickly. For example, if your speakers are say 50 feet away from you, you would likely have around 20 msec of delay right there. Add this to your system latency of 20 msec and your up to 40 msec which is like trying to play a rubber guitar underwater. Even if your PA speakers are closer, the delays add up quickly. So having that nice loud monitor right up next to you will insure that you only have to get the feel of your system latency.

Is there a way to get my FCPX audio to Logic Pro?

There was the automatic duck option but that no longer works with FCPX 10.03
Is there a way yet for me to get my audio to Logic Pro for mixing?

Roles are very powerful and smart. I just exported my project to Logic pro. In FCP X, select menu: modify/edit roles... select a category like dialog and in the right window, click the "+" and make some sub roles. I made one for each person in the film. You can create subs for other categories: under music, I aded thre roles named for the three music cues.
Then in the time line, turn on "view roles" in the popup where you adjust timeline sizes. Open the info (window cmd-4), and you can assign roles in the info panel of the clip. I selected all the dialog clips for the narator and assigned them to my subrole for him - all clips assigned at once - very easy.
Then after this tidying up, open menu: share/export media, select export audio roles as separte files, you can ad your new custom roles (at the bottom) and delete the default roles (there is a minus in the right column) then export the set of stems.
In logic, make the project 48k, set sync to match your timecode to the proper frame rate, import your stems, drag them all to the begining and let Logic make a new track for each - YEAH Baby... now you have everything in sync, and all the tracks you like.
There is no automation info transfered yet, but it works nicely.
As a bonus, open the timeline index in FCPx and all your subroles now have switches to turn them on or off, or highlight them. Click on one to see evey clip in your project with that role light up. Smart stuff.
Hopefuly, Logic will be able to open FCP X XML files soon. That would be SO nice.

Seemingly Simple Audio Edits Driving Me Nuts

I have asked about this before, thought I had the proper answer, but alas it would seem not.
After joining audio (in most cases for music transitions) into Connected Storyline, I am often then unable to apply a Transition of perform a Roll Edit because it seems there is a space in there somewhere. I have tried the suggested remedy of Zooming in, using Position Tool to trim both sides of the edit, then deleting the space in between. It was explained the problem invovles sub frames which aren't always visible. Sometimes this works. It seems like there should be a quicker solution (it's especially cumbersome if your edit is otherwise well timed, and you have to re-tweak it once you pull the edges back,) but if it worked consistently I could live with it.
However, far too frequently, the process is not working, and I am redoing it over and over and over again until somehow it manages to take. I can end up spending 5 to 10 minutes on a simple audio edit, and needless to say, this is just unacceptable.
Can anyone tell me a reliable way to deal with this, or suggest what I might be doing wrong or something different I can try, because this is making me crazy. There has got to be an easier way. Any help appreciated.

dont think ive ever been able to get cross dissolves on audio to work. I now use FCPX as I would Logic or ProTools and I overlap audio clips and put manual fades on them. Actually its worth the extra work coz the joins are usually better. and you have ore control.
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FCP Audio to Logic Pro

I've used Soundtrack Pro to edit my audio from FCP, sending it straight there, and the functionality is great--but I've had so many problems with Soundtrack Pro that I want to edit this next video's audio in Logic. Is there a way to similarly send all the audio (on the same tracks, chopped up the same way, and so forth) from FCP to Logic Pro 9?
P.S.--I apologize if this topic has been covered before...I've had a very difficult time figuring out the new layout of the "support communities" here on Apple's site. How do I search through the FCP forums?
Thanks!

Yes, I hate the new forummunity as well. It lumps all the FCS apps into one hopper and it stinks.
Enough kvetching -
re doing sound editing for video in Logic -
I just played around with this work flow and think this is how you can get it to work.
1. Export your movie as video only- (self contained).
2. Export your FCP sequence as an XML5 file
3. Open Logic and create a new empty project.
4. Import the XML. Your tracks should show up in the proper place and alignment
5. Under Global Tracks, select Video>open movie. Then click on the your self-contained video file.
I make no warranty that this actually works.
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Audio Editing Questions In Final Cut Studio 2

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Thank you all again for being here!, I have some quick questions about working with audio in fcp 6.02, and Soundtrack. first of all I am wondering if its easier and quicker just to work in fcp with audio, or export to Sound Track Pro? I have a wedding I shot and I had my cam recording 2 different source of audio, one from a balcony, and the other on the floor with different sounds to them. What is the best method to get them to sound nearly the same? In Fcp apply a "Normalization Gain"? I am new to audio editing, and somewhat with FCS, in general. Also in the timeline how can I get all audio clips in sync with the same volume? I was amazed with Soundtrack Pro's ability to take out ambient back ground noise and inference any other trick to get rid on unwanted inferences? Your Idea and experience are invaluable!!!
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The reason you may not have gotten replies to your "quick questions" is because there are no quick answers. It is certainly easiest to just do the audio in FCP rather than export to STP. If your needs are simple just stay with FCP. However, you mention specialized tasks that STP can do but FCP can't. I am grappling with these same issues. I am a Logic Pro user and it gets very confusing about what tool to use when.
My main message to you is that I just purchased the Apple Pro Training book FCP 6 Beyond the basics and there are 90 pages in two lessons devoted to exactly what you are interested in. I bought it just yesterday and it has already helped me in a number of areas.
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Care 2 share favorite audio editing tips (think Aphex, Squarepusher, B.T.)?

Anyone here do tons of constructive/destructive audio editing in Logic? I am determined to kick my Pro Tools habit and embrace Logic's audio mangling capabilities once and for all!
Any tips or shortcuts you can't live without would be much appreciated (especially from Pro Tools users who have learned to adapt without having 'tab to transients', 'Grid mode', etc.).
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Between your posts today I'd say the effects you want can be created pretty quickly with strip silence, divide multiple, AU hosting batch processor, EXS24. Kontakt is actually pretty quick at this becase it's got a built in ReCycler, then you can just throw the pitches and loops in whichever direction you want, just set the polyphony low (often mono) for alot of this. Logic doesn't really handle file based effects (then it was easy-like PT's AudioSuite). Lowering the Tempo in 2 and then recording, chopping and then flipping the tempo up is also good, set regions to auto xfade like 5ms. Alot can be done in the arrange, yes but the samplers should not be overlooked. Basically sound like you're going through 30 different sounds all at one as 1 instrument. I have set up templates with FX where sounds basically "reproduce", this is really easy in Logic. Record or setup sounds by some timebase, scribble some automation in for a few plugs, bounce, divide multiple, send through batch processor, load into sampler, it may not sound like much but you can make hundreds of unique sounds in a few minutes. All you have to do after that is listen and choose. But obviously you don't want to stop there so you can start drawing (honestly, I think the Matrix is where I'd do the arranging/sequencing-just load up a few samplers but for processing/chopping arrange is really fast). I even do this with guitar tracks. With your sample regions now in place you can just change the pitch on the sampler and set the loop values to musical and nonmusical values easily. The arrange is fine for placing but when you get into all the effecting it's handled better by a sampler, IMO. Logic can make easy work of the effecting, dicing, and sequencing. Export regions as audio files, and open in external sampe editor, EXS mapping 128 notes at once. ReCycle. Kontakt has alot of the stuff you want-it could replace ReCyle and EXS24, and it's got the script processor.

In Place Audio Editing

Are there any plans to further support/ expand in place audio editing for Logic? I really miss being able to apply and print a plug-in to a specific region from a drop down menu or right click like I can in Cubase and Pro Tools. If Apple can get that sorted I'll have virtually no need to reach for another DAW.

Ruis MacDoo wrote:
Can you automate the plugin to work on an individual region. I do this with Sony Dynamics and EQ, saves doing it on another track as the other poster said.
Really a time consuming workaround for direct audio editing using any of your installed plugins. I almost always know how I want to edit and for brevity's sake I find it much easier to just go ahead and make the edit. For audio only sessions I use Cubase for this very reason, plus Cubase has a modern audio editor, one of the most functional and elegant available in a DAW.
The disadvantage of using an external editor is being able to quickly audition your edits in place, but yes, it's better than no choices at all.
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Blank Audio Edit Window

G'day All,
This has been a subject of some previous posts I know but...
Is there a solution to the intermittent failure of opening the Audio Edit Window upon double clicking an audio file in the audio or arrange windows? It was a rare occurrence before & I put it down to a dodgy audio file, but now it is a constant mind destroying phenomenon...
Many Thanks

g'day mate
try this mate
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/proapplicationsupport30macosx104.html
it might help alot
also which logic are you using 7? 7.0.1? or 7.1
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Exporting Audio into Logic has altered the audio

Ok, what step am I missing? When exporting the audio From STP (Sound FX, Foley, ect) to Logic, for some reason when I play the audio in logic, it is no longer synced with the movie and the pitch sounds deeper.
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hey thanks, yeah, i figured it out like right after I posted the topic. I was like "hmmm i wonder if the bit resolution and sample rate is it..."...and sure enough it was... But thanks anyways.

What is Express like for audio editing ?

Think it is abit rubbish that Apple don't produce a stand alone audio editor. But I found Wave Editor which uses layers like photoshop and is just amazing for $79
I have moved over from using soundforge on Windows PC. I am wondering about getting Express and already have a licence for Ableton 6.
I am looking into Express but wondered how you rated it for audio editing Vs dedicated Editor ?
I could download a trial I guess, but I have so many on the go atm.

Thanks for the info. Do you know if there is a trial ? I know they did one for 7 but can't find it.
I love ableton to bits but need some thing more like logic too, I don't find ableton's arrangement view that intuative atm, and am not big on the timestretching aspect of ableton as impairs on the quality of your end mix I find, even with care choice of algorithms.
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Latency, Recording incoming Audio into Logic,... I don't understand

I'm trying to clear up my understanding (or misunderstanding) of latency of incoming audio into Logic.
As a test, here's what I did.
Set-Up
1. In Preferences/Audio/General, I set Plug-In delay Compensation to off.
2. In Preferences/Audio/Core I set the I/O Buffer Size to 32 (is this necessary?, to go that low?)
3. In Preferences/Audio/General I turn on the Low Latency Mode On, set Limit to 0ms (Zero Milliseconds)
4. Created a 1/4 note click track with Klopfgeist.
5. Just for reference, I converted to audio. Opened in the sample editor and it is indeed, exactly on the beat.
6. Set up my Roland Fantom as a Midi instrument. Channel 10 to trigger a Side Stick sound.
7. Create another 1/4 note click track.
8. Recorded the Rolands Output into my MOTU 2408 interface into Logic.
9 Opened up the waveform up in the sample editor, zoom in and notice it is obviously late.
10. Move the Anchor point 6 ticks to line it up,
Therefore, the incoming audio is off by 6 ticks.
Is it not possible to get 0 latency? I read the chapter in the manual but I believe this wasn't made clear, i could be wrong.
I have a guitarist coming over to record on my record in a week, I don't know how to deal with this except to move his entire track
by 6 ticks. ?

That is not really the type of latency that's affected by your audio I/O buffer setting. A DAW system has different types of latency, MIDI latency, latency caused by some plugins, AD/DA converter latency..etc. The six tics will probably remain the same or close to it if you're buffer is set to 64, 126, 256...etc.
Why do you have "Low Latency" mode selected, do you know what it's function is?
The I/O buffer setting affects two main aspects.
The response of the system when you play a virtual instrument, and...
...real-time monitoring of an audio input track. (this is an audio signal that passes through Logics audio engine and can use live effects)
The example using the Fantom requires MIDI sent to the keyboard and the audio into the MOTU passes through the AD converter.
What you want to set is the Record Delay so that your audio records in time, however... it needs to be set using a loopback test.
Use a 1/4 note recorded audio click (side stick) that you've adjusted to be perfectly on the beat copy it a few times. Use a cable from the MOTU's output to an open channel's input, record the click, compare.. now adjust the "Recording Delay" until the recorded click matches the first click.
Recording delay is on the Preferences/Audio tab.
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Recording audio into logic?

hello,how can you record audio straight into logic express 7,i have an audio interface,just dont know how to control logic to do this.i know how to record it onto my hard drive,but just thought you might be able to record it into logic ,like you would recording midi, into a track etc..thats if you can do it at all ?
hope this makes sense.
thanx

When you record the track segment you are creating is saved on your hard drive. It is not data that is saved as part the song file itself. It is more like a link. Each segment is separate so you are going to create a new one each time you record a part of your song. Logic wants to place them into a common folder.
Logic needs to have a path to those files so it can access them for playback. It is best to have them in the song file folder rather than somewhere else on your hard drive. When you follow through with setting the audio path Logic will create the necessary folders for the different types of files it will need to access.
When you create a new song file it does not have that audio path. So, you either set up the link/path after you create a new song file, or when you try to record your first track segment, Logic will ask you to set that path before recording.
Hope that helps.

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