Init from Write optimized DSO

Hello,
I have a requirement wherein a WDSO (Write Optimized) get everyday's Delta where we apply all Business rules. Then need to load this DELTA into a Cube in Analytical layer which is in a different system.
Questions:
1. Can we do Init without Data transfer from WDSO to Cubes while using Update rules from Exp DS of this WDSO to the Cubes, and then run Delta loads subsequently?
2. Can we do Init without Data transfer from WDSO to Cubes while using DTP from this Exp DS to Cubes in a different system, and run Delta loads subsequently?
As mentioned, please be aware that source WDSO and the Cubes are in 2 different systems.
thanks in advance for the help...
Kumar

Hello Chetan,
Really appreciate your help on this.
Guess I am failing to explain my requirement.
Process that you had suggested works fine if it is full load from source WDSO to the Cubes in a different system. But for this I have to drop and reload the delta in WDSO everyday.
My actual requirement is to keep adding new Delta requests into WDSO everyday, then pull ONLY DELTA records (Requestes that are loaded on each day) into the Cubes across system.
So in order to achieve this we have to load from WDSO to PSA in a different system (for doing Init or Delta), then pull using DTP into the Cubes.
So as said earlier, while doing this Init from WDSO to PSA using Infopackage it is working fine but no subsequent Delta are getting pulled though new records added in WDSO.
Hope it makes sense....
This makes me to think whether we can load Deltas from WDSO or not. Appreciate your help.
thanks
Kumar

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