Instance dependant and independent

Hello
I cannot access the method getDetail() in Purchase order BAPI. It shows an error [" GetDetail on type _Com Object not found "].But I can access the method getItems() in the same BAPI (Both are tried from VS .NET 2003 ). In SAP GUI I noticed that getDetail() is instance dependendnt and getItems() is instance independent . Is this the reason for showing the error ? Can any one of you tell me the difference between Instance dependant BAPI method and Instance independent BAPI method. and how i can solve this issue
Thanks in advance

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DOC NAME: ALE_SCENARIO_DEVELOPMENT_PROCEDURE
Version 1 Page 6 of 16
ALE Scenario Development Guide
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A client is an independent business unit within an R/3 System, Data in the R/3 are classified as cleint-Dependent and client-independent.
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