Intel Merom

Hello all
Sorry in advance if this is in the wrong forum section. I have read quite a bit about Intel's new and improved Core Duo chip, dubbed Merom I belive, and that it is supposedly to be released Summer/Fall. I will be headed college in the fall and I hopefully will purchase a MBP. My question is, if the said chip is released in July, August, etc. how long will it be until it is integrated into the MBP? What is Apple's general update cycle for notebooks? Thank you all in advance for any help!

dissolve, you are asking a question for which there is only one answer:
Shortly after you buy a computer a new one that's faster and has great new features will be released.
My MBP replaced my 5-year old TiBook. The differences between the two machines depends on what you do with them.
For typing speed, there's no particular difference. Once you've got a computer that fast enough to keep up with your typing speed, that's all you need.
In my case I do a lot of database work that can be very processor-intensive. I've clocked the MBP at more than 10 times faster than the TiBook for some of the work I do. Great! But that doesn't mean I'll actually be able to do 10 times more work, as I have to spend some time thinking, and some time typing. Those really don't happen any faster with the new machine.
Suppose Apple comes out with Merom processors next fall. Suppose they are 20% faster clock speeds and are 64-bit. Remember, most software isn't 64-bit optimized and anyway 64-bit doesn't necessarily mean faster for many operations. You won't be able to type any faster with the Merom.
For my actual work flows, would the Merom really make a big difference in productivity, compared to my MPB? Overall, probably not a measurable increase.
But in 2, 3 or 5 years I'll probably be able to justify the decision that a new computer would make an increase in productivity. I'm looking forward to that.
Meanwhile, I'm delighted with the MBP.

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GX700 bios 1.22 cpu support???

Does anyone have a full list of GX700 bios 1.22 CPU-support?
I have asked msi support directly, but they do not want to give me direct answer.
Just wondering whether I can bring my gx700 closer to modern laptops with a cpu upgrade (most likely X7900 or T9500, if they are supported)

Quote from: Svet on 16-February-12, 18:08:03
since msi support can't answer dunno then..
here is some QVL related to memory on GX700:
" Yes, GX700 supports 4GB memory max, but not all the memory can be used on it, please refer to the Approved Memory Vendor list as below：
Vendor--Model Name--Type, Frequency--Size--Chipset
KINGSTON--KVR667D2S5--DDRII 667--2GB--MICRON
Transcend--JM467Q643A-6-DDRII 667--512MB--RJETRAM
Transcend--TS128MSQ64V6J--DDRII 667--1GB--SAMSUNG
Transcend--TS128MSQ64V6J--DDRII 667--1GB--HYNIX
Transcend--TS256MSQ64V6U--DDRII 667--2GB--MICRON
Transcend--TS256MSQ64V6U--DDRII 667--2GB--SAMSUNG
TWINMOS--8D-23KN5MHBTP--DDRII 667--1GB--HYNIX
UNIFOSA--GU331G0AJEPN6E20--DDRII 667--1GB--ELPIDA
WALTON--AS51082-667P015--DDRII 667--512MB--ELPIDA
WALTON--AS1G082-667P015--DDRII 667--1GB--ELPIDA
Transcend--TS256MSQ64V6U + TS128MSQ64V6J--DDRII 667--3GB--MICRON + RJETRAM "
About CPU support found this:
http://www.avadirect.com/msi-configurator.asp?PRID=10877
GX700:
Support Intel® Penryn FSB800 CPU T8100/T8300/T9300/T9500
Support Intel® Merom FSB800 CPU T7100/7300/7500/7700
Thank you
I have tried several memory types and all of them have worked so far.
I think that I found that Avadirect too, and it suggests that T9500 will work with MSI bios.. I am just not sure whether I can trust that source. Maybe I will buy a cheap T9500 from ebay if I happen to find one.
Official information from Intel states that:
PM965 Chipset supports also X7800/X7900/X9000, but I guess that BIOS is the restricting factor in this case.

Merom / Conroe upgrade path for Intel iMac?

Has anything been released about a processor upgrade path (if possible) to take the Early 2006 IiMacs from the Yonah CPU family to Merom or Conroe?
I'm still steamed to be stuck with a 32-bit CPU (even though it is a good one, funny how that fact is still judiciously left out of all promotional materials) and wondered if I will be left high and dry in 2-3 months when the 64-bit Core 2 Duo chips ship.
It would be nice if there were an upgrade path to bring the early adopter faithful into the 64-bit realm. Anyone heard a mighty rumblin' ?

People have successfully removed the CPU and replaced it. And, the new chips are supposed to be compatible with any Yonah based system.
So, while there is no official upgrade path, it should not be a problem installing a new CPU in the machine later.
Obviously, the heat of the new chips will be a consideration. They may be hotter, they may not be.
And, it will obviously void your warranty.
But, it should be possible.

Qosmio G30-189 BIOS Update to support Intel Core 2 Duo ( MEROM )

Hello !
Can you tell when Toshiba will release a BIOS Update to support the new intel core 2 duo mobile cpu.
The actual BIOS 1.4 does not recognize the new cpu type.
As Toshiba delivers a core 2 duo based qosmio in USA G35-650 a bios should be availble.
For sure I now that this makes the gurantee go away.
Please help.
Greetings
Marcus Reichert

Hmm, yes sure - i work in IT and I think I repaired 5000 notebooks ... I am certainly not mad at you !
I am happy that anyone answeres me ....
So, I have here an Qosmio G30-145 and the G30-189 - they are absolutely identical.
Only the Video Ram is smaller and a different CPU is inserted.
In the US there is the G35-650 - also nearly the same - and this uses a creo 2 duo.
Be sure Toshiba will not build different units - they just change the name and include some minor changes to config ( pal and ntsc etc. )
You will be sure to see a G30 with Core 2 Duo very soon here in europe or germany and then bang - it will be the same hardware with a different bios - I BET !!!
Yes, I know the power Saving Tool and I agree with you in all points.
BUT windows XP, Linux and Vista do also habe power schemes and controll the fans - the Toshiba tolls adds only more features.
I think the actual bios accepts now the core 2 duo, but still has problems with the power scheme - Intel says the CPUs are nearly comaptible.
I have tested Core 2 Duos, Asus and other - no problem at all.
I think if we wait we get a bios which fixes all, problem is I need it know.
Have a nice weekend
Marcus

Talkin' Bout My Generations: A Brief History of Intel-based Portable Macs

During my first four years here at Discussions, I came across a fairly common problem while trying to help folks using Windows on a Mac: very few people I responded to could tell mewhat kind of system they were using. Many were users of portable Macs, so to try and help them out identifying the machines they used, I thought of making a guide to portableidentification. But as I was writing this article two years ago, I got thinking about a more detailed history of the MacBook family from 2006 to 2010. I’ve taken many of the news snippets I’ve read from Macworld magazine and other sources to provide the historical content in this guide and combinedthem with my personal opinions on each model. Specifications where used have been verified by Brock Kyle’s EveryMac.com and by Apple support documents as well as keynote speeches from Apple execs. The opinions provided are those of the author and are independent of Apple, Inc, so in other words, if you feel differently about these machines…
DON’T SHOOT THE MESSENGER!
And now, the guide. Enjoy!
First generation (1G):
These are the only 32-bit Intel Mac portables in the field, sporting Intel Core Duo (“Yonah”) processors from 1.83-2.16 GHz (Early '06, including Glossy)
MacBook
This long-awaited upgrade of the iBook has a port setup comparable to the Mid-'05 iBook--2 USB 2.0, 1 FW400, audi oout, mini video. Also uses an inset keyboard, which drew some groans from the community-at-large when it first launched. Internally, uses an Intel GMA950 graphics system that borrows up to 64 MB as video RAM and adds 16 MB overhead.
Case type: Solid white or black polycarbonate shell
Chipset: Intel 945GM
Standard RAM: 512 MB (432 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 2.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM(1968 MB usable)
Pros: Solid performance vs. iBook, goodbasic machine for the Web, hard drive is user-serviceable.
Cons: Poor graphics make this unit ascratch for mid-level business work, games or creative apps; limited RAM, no64-bit support
MacBook Pro
This was Apple's Intel debut, along withthe iMac (Core Duo). Apple flashed a1.67 GHz prototype at Macworld Expo ‘06 that was scratched in production for a1.83 GHz model. Supply chain economicsresulted in an optical drive downgrade to a standard single-layer drive fromthe double-layer drives in the late '05 PowerBooks. It's also the only model in the MacBook Procontinuum not to bear a FireWire 800 port. Although functionally similar to the MacBookthat followed it, this line has discrete graphics by way of AMD's RADEONX1600--up to 256 MB. Slightly revisedversions, rolled in by mid-year, included a glossy display and improved videoRAM.
Case type: Anodized aluminum compositewith plastic edging.
Chipset: Intel 945GM
Standard RAM: 1 GB
Maximum RAM: 2.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM
Pros: Good step up from PB '05, can runpro apps and games with ease
Cons: limited RAM, no 64-bit support, no DVD±DL support, lack of FW800 abother for some
Second generation (2G):
The 2G portables (“Late 2006” in Applespeak) were a mild speed bump of the 1G lines, replacing the 32-bit Core with the 64-bit Core2 (“Merom”). Processor speeds ranged from 2.0 GHz-2.33 GHz. Apple fixed many 1G shortcomings here, but retained the 945 family chipsets until well into 2007. As aresult of the 945 family’s addressing limitations, usable RAM is limited to 3GB, even when 4 GB can be installed. (See http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/faq/macbook-pro-core-2-duo-3-g b-memory-limitation-details.html) Further, Apple has chosen to limitWindows support on these units to Vista; anything else is “use at own risk”.
On the plus side, these 2G portables arethe absolute earliest qualifiers for Mac OS X Lion, albeit with a significantlylimited user experience—that is, many features of note simply are not possible given the nature of the 2G internals.
MacBook
No visible markers set these units apart from the 1G models, and all internals are the same save for the Core2 CPU. These units were slightly revised in 2007 toenable draft 802.11n support; those models shipped in October 2006 and onward could download an update to enable 802.11n. The only way to confirm a 2G MacBook is via software; the Model ID iseither ”2,1” or “2,2”
Case type: Solid white or blackpolycarbonate shell
Chipset: Intel 945GM
Standard RAM: 1 GB (944 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 3.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM (2992 MB usable)
Pros: Core2 offers 64-bit support and modest speed boost, max RAM up
Cons: Still comes up short forhigh-demand applications.
MacBook Pro
Functionally similar to its predecessor while retaining the AMD X1600 graphics, the 2G Pro had three notable differences. This line marks the permanent return of the FireWire 800 port—this one’s on the right side. Also back for an encore is the double-layer SuperDrive; Apple’s suppliers finally had the size of optical drive that Apple needed. Like the MacBook, it also gets a lift from the new Core2 CPUs with twice as much L2 cache as their predecessors and their trendier plastic-clad siblings.
Case type: Anodized aluminum composite with plastic edging.
Chipset: Intel 945GM
Standard RAM: 1 GB
Maximum RAM: 3.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM
Pros: FW800 is back, as is DVD±DL; max RAM up, graphics still strong
Cons: Speed improvement only nominal, Windows Vista support still lacking inspots (X1000-series chips are not DX10 qualified)
Third generation (3G):
The “Mid/Late 2007” portables were somewhat of a redesign from the inside, though they remained similar to 2G models when viewed from without. Common to both lines is the Intel 965 chipset family, best known by its Intel codename, “Santa Rosa”; with it, the system bus got ramped to 800 MT/s while the memory bus remained at 667 MT/s. Here, the Core2 gets another modest speed bump, with standard frequencies ranging from 2.1 GHz-2.4 GHz. At this time, the RAM ceiling was lifted, allowing 4 GB to be used in all models and making theseMacs capable 64-bit machines. Windows x64 variants will run on this class, but it requires Boot Camp 2.1 or higher and some finesse with installing individual software packages since Apple’s installer places a soft block on these units.
Also of note: 3G and 4G MacBook Pros were particularly susceptible to a defect in the NVIDIA graphics chip, which left unchecked would cause these units not to display video, or to show scrambled video. Apple has a current repair program to fixthis issue if you should run across it, but time is running out. Unless you are aware that the defect has been repaired, these models are best avoided
MacBook
By the time the 3G models surfaced, the2G models were dealing with heavy criticism for not being refreshed in sync with the Pro models. Apple had three convincing reasons for such a delay. First came the iPhone EDGE, for which development was a top priority. The delay actually bought some time for Apple to reveal the other two reasons; Intel was providing the GMA X3100 as a companion to the GM965, which in itself was a modest improvement over the GMA 950 used in the first two iterations; and Apple had been working on its latest flagship OS, “Leopard”, released just days before the new MacBook surfaced on All Saints’ Day (11/1). One might say that waiting does indeed payoff, judging from Macworld’s bench scores of the 3G MacBooks, 2007 was a good year to upgrade the old iBook to something better.
Case type: Solid white or black polycarbonate shell
Chipset: Intel GM965
Standard RAM: 1 GB (880 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 4.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM (3952 MB usable)
Pros: Better graphics, potentially faster WLAN support, improved speed, conservative energy usage
Cons: Poor graphics in Windows, game support on both platforms limited to casual titles (many FPS/RTS/MMO games not supported)
MacBook Pro
The 3G Pro underwent a massive interior overhaul in June 2007, sporting NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics and—for the first time in an Apple portable—an option to build a Core2 Extreme into the unit at 2.6 GHz. These were the first portables to carry 802.11n as a standard option, as well as the first Apple portables touse an LED-backlit display. The 3G Pro also meets or exceeds all Windows Vista operating requirements, and was one of the best performing computers to run Vista, according to PC World.
Unfortunately for longtime notebook users, the 3G lines of the MacBook Pro also mark some “lasts”. The line of 3G Pros was the last line of portables to have officially shipped with Tiger, the last portables to includean Apple Remote as standard equipment, and, perhaps more notably, the last tobear a traditional numeric keypad.
Case type: Anodized aluminum composite with plastic edging.
Chipset: Intel GM965
Standard RAM: 2 GB
Maximum RAM: 4.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM
Pros: Significantly improved graphics, greater energy efficiency over 2G units due to chipset and display upgrades, fastest unit of its time for current OSes, solid all-around performance, potentially faster WLAN support.
Cons: Not quite “future-proof”
Fourth generation (4G)
The “Early 2008” portables were met with fervent anticipation, as Apple hinted about “something in the air” at what would be CEO Steve Jobs’ final Macworld Expo address. Notebooks were all the rage, as was the upcoming iPhone software upgrade that gave rise to application development and the App Store. Exciting news indeed, it was. Yet, as was the norm in Jobsian monologues, he had “one more thing” to show off. Inter-office memos? Nope, but it did arrive in the classic manila envelope used for such. It was the first-generation MacBook Air, partof a 4G lineup that saw revamped Core2 CPUs ranging from 1.6 GHz all the way upt o 2.6 GHz depending on model and build options.
The new CPUs were based on Intel’s latest “Penryn” cores, some of which received a drop in L2 cache versus the “Merom” cores used in 2G and 3G units. However, the drop in cache did little to impact performance; the new CPUs were actually faster by a slight margin at the same speeds as prior Core2’s, per Macworld’s bench scores. As there were few changes in case designapart from removing the keypad from the MacBook Pro, only software can separate a 4G unit from a 3G unit.
The 4G units, and all units following, officially support x64-native Windows via Boot Camp 2.1 as included on their Install Discs, or ondiscs with future versions of OS X and Boot Camp.
MacBook
The 4G MacBook saw the processor upgrade and little else,but the bump was likely enough to convince any but the hard-core 12” PowerBookenthusiasts to cross over to Intel. Because it’s still based on the Santa Rosa (GM965) platform, the 20-pluspercentage point improvements touted by tech-savvy bloggers and enthusiastsites are never realized. Rather, some sources have documented a roughimprovement of between three percent and ten percent over the 3G units.
Sadly for some, this model is the last MacBook to bear anysize and speed of FireWire port.
Case type: Solid white or black polycarbonate shell (as of late 2008, white only)
Chipset: Intel GM965
Standard RAM: 2 GB (1904 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 4.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM (3952 MB usable)
Pros: Still a solid machine for light work, cheap, fast for its price
Cons: It’s the only cheap way to make your FireWire gear work
MacBook Air
The new kid on the block this go-around;the MacBook Air is Apple’s first sub-notebook since the PowerBook Duo of the early 1990’s. Classified as a “thin and light”, the Air is a very strikingdefinition of that term. At three pounds weight and 0.16” to 0.76” thickness, and with logic circuitry the length of a standard No. 2 pencil, Apple could crow about making “the world’s thinnest notebook” and still pack more punch into a space of 14 inches at a time when other sub-note vendors were still trying to shrink their wares. These vendors, according to Jobs, started shrinking items that shouldn’t be shrunk. Where most sub-notes had 11” or 12” screens, for example, the Air packed in a 13-incher; and when a keyboard was needed for the Air, Apple went with a full-size board identical to the then one-and-a-half-year-old MacBook design, complete with inset keys. From the MacBook Pro, the Air gained an aluminum finish as well as a backlit keyboard. On its own, the Air introduced solid-state storage (colloquially “flash drives”) as hard drives for the Mac. However, this option added $1,000 to the Air’s asking price and dropped its already limited storage capacity from80 GB to 64 GB. To add insult to injuryin some minds, the Air also dropped common expansion options and an internal optical drive to acquire its legendary dimensions. Left after shrinkage: a single USB port, an audio jack, and a “micro-DVI” video port. Despite these sacrifices, the 1G MacBook Air still outclasses other sub-notes where it counts because its chipset is the same GM965 used in the 3G and 4G MacBook offerings in addition to having the fastest low-voltage CPU’s of the day in custom quarter-sized packages. Its performance in comparison to full-featured notebooks is lower by way of processor speed being lower, and yet normal for a portable of its class.
Case type: Anodized aluminum
Chipset: Intel GM965
Standard RAM: 2 GB onboard (1904 MB usable)
Pros: Size and weight offer maximumportability, big screen and keyboard offer comfort for travelers, multi-gesturetrackpad has large surface for easy usability, and price is on par for class.
Cons: Limited expansion options, limited storage, and service-removable battery ,costly add-ons required for use in environments where WLAN isn’t an option, not well suited to Windows variants beyond XP.
MacBook Pro
Not much new here from the 3G lines, save for the absentkeypad. Base specs were upped by small increments, and dedicated VRAM doubled for all models. Nonetheless, the 4G Pro can make a capable,if not solid gaming unit (as if the 3G unit wasn’t competent in its own right). Like the 3G unit, it is also well suited to Vista and its 64-bit variant, and it can easily run Windows 7 in its many forms as well.
Case type: Anodized aluminum composite with plastic edging.
Chipset: Intel GM965
Standard RAM: 2 GB
Maximum RAM: 4.00 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM
Pros: Robust graphics, flexible options,and multi-gesture trackpad
Cons: What’s not to like? If you liveor die crunching numbers, it’s tougher, but doable.
Fifth generation (5G)
As is done in every odd generation, Apple reworked the entire line of notebooks from within for the “Late 2008/Early 2009” cycle. In addition, Apple was hard at work on atotally new and totally trend-setting casing process for its portables. The result: an extreme makeover not seen in Apple’s portable lines since the 68K-to-PowerPC transitions of the early 1990’s. To rework the interior of the MacBook family, Apple went to NVIDIA—not Intel—for a high-performance logicsolution to be used in notebooks. NVIDIAwas working on a desktop chipset at the time; but if Steve Jobs’ statement at Apple’s October ‘08 notebook event is to be believed, Apple designers asked NVIDIA to make it mobile, and the company delivered an MCP logic set dubbed“GeForce 9400M” unto Apple. All linesthus benefited from markedly faster graphics and the adoption of ultra-fas tDDR3 memory. Here, the 5G MacBook and 2G MacBook Air became passable all-around units, with the 5G MacBook Pro sportingdynamically switchable graphics engines.
For the exterior makeover, Apple Senior Designer Jon Iverevealed that Apple’s latest process created a “unibody” enclosure that waslighter and required fewer parts to produce, for it was milled entirely fromone sheet of aluminum. To complete themakeover, Apple drew on its experience with the Aluminum line of iMac desktopsand fused all-glass displays into the new assemblies.
For some models, the fifth generation held well into 2010,and so received only incremental upgrades to the CPU, GPU, and system RAM
All models from this generation, save for the whiteMacBook, include a button-less, customizable multi-gesture trackpad.
MacBook and MacBookPro (15”)
Because the two lines had converged in this iteration, only subtle visual differences kept them apart. Both lines dropped the FireWire 400 port and exchanged their respectivevideo outputs for a common Mini DisplayPort, based on an emerging standard. The loss of certain status quofeatures on both lines (FW400 on theMacBook, traditional keyboard on the Pro) drew some whining in certain circles,but such things happen when Apple does this sort of retooling.
With the 5G notebooks, Apple further blurred the line thatonce separated MacBook from MacBook Pro, allowing the former a backlit keyboardin its fullest build. Apple hoped that thiswould swing “fence people” toward the MacBook instead of a low-cost Windows PC since these are folks that would be forced to spend $2,000 on a MacBook Probecause they want to play games in either Mac OS or Windows, casually orotherwise.
Case type: Anodized aluminum unibody
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M MCP (withGeForce 9600M GT GPU in Pro models)
Standard RAM: 2 GB (1792 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 8.00 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM( 7936 MB usable)
Pros: Fast graphics, lighter, moredurable, energy efficient, hard drive is user-serviceable, wealth of optionsavailable
Cons: Changes in port makeup require conversion adapters; may frustrate some
MacBook Pro (17”)
At MacWorld Expo ’09, Apple SeniorVice-President Phil Schiller spent more than 90 minutes touting the company’slatest software offerings. In typical Apple style, however, Schiller couldn’t let Apple make what would be its finalcurtain call without a fantastic final act. The 5G-notebook lineup would be rounded out with a stunning revision to one of Apple’s crown jewels: the 17-inch MacBook Pro. Though it’s fundamentally similar to its smaller siblings and received the same makeover from its 4G incarnation that the others received, its battery puts it in a class of its own; Apple claimed not only that the battery will last an unheard-of 8 hours, but also that it would continue to function at nearly 100% potential after 300charge cycles and drop to 80% potential after 1000 cycles, thereby lastingthree times longer than most conventional notebook batteries, including itsown. The reason for this is thebattery’s adaptive charging circuitry, which requests that charge be directedonly to the cells that require it instead of the system charging the battery uniformly across all cells. Real world testing of Apple’s claims yielded figures closer to 5 hours. Still, the fact that the battery is fixed inplace seemed irrelevant. Fixed batteries have been a source of worry for many gadget lovers since the original iPoddebuted in 2001.
Nonetheless, Apple’s flagship retained manyof thee same advantages and disadvantages of its 5G fellows, and yet it remaineda solid machine for those fortunate enough to afford its nearly $3,000 base sticker price. Build-to-order modelsnearly eclipsed the 3 GHz mark—but as Don Adams would have said, missed it by that much.
Case type: Anodized aluminum unibody
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M MCP with GeForce 9600M GT GPU
Standard RAM: 2 GB (1792 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 8.00 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM (7936 MB usable)
Pros: Powerful, lighter, more durable,energy efficient, hard drive is user-serviceable, wealth of options available
Cons: Changes in port makeup require conversion adapters; may frustrate some ,expensive entry price, fixed battery
MacBook Air (Second Generation and Third Generation)
How do you improve on the world’s most eye-catching notebook? Apparently, you improve uponit from within, as CEO Jobs outlined during the October event introducing the5G-notebook architecture. Like itsfull-sized siblings, the 2G Air ships with an NVIDIA 9400M MCP and 2 GB of fast DDR3 RAM onboard even as the ultra-low voltage Core2 CPU at its heart has seenonly miniscule improvements in overall clock speed. Hard drive options have seen more modest gains, with the standard drive adding 50% more space than its predecessor and the SSD option doubling to 128 GB. With these adjustments, the Air becomes more palatable to travelers willing toaccept certain tradeoffs in exchange for size and weight. For Windows users under Boot Camp, the Air also becomes a more capable, if still underpowered, Vista unit, albeit one that won’t gain much from an x64-based variant thereof.
Case type: Anodized aluminum unibody
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M MCP
Standard RAM: 2 GB onboard (1792 MB usable)
Pros: Size and weight offer maximumportability, big screen and keyboard offer comfort for travelers, multi-gesturetrack pad has large surface for easy usability, and price is on par for class,better storage options than previous model.
Cons: No change in onboard RAM to offset new hardware overhead, add-ons still required where WLAN isn’t available, adapter required for new Mini DisplayPort with most displays
MacBook (’09 White)
A surprise refresh in early 2009 brought an entry-level MacBook under $1,000 with most of the 5G features above. To keep it that affordable, Apple ended up blending a third-gen polycarbonate MacBook exterior with a modified 5G-logicassembly. Users of this model got the same fast graphics engine as the one in the mainstream aluminum MacBooks, all the while keeping the single and now scarce FW400 port; but they also gave up niceties such as the multitouch track pad and the slightly quicker DDR3 RAM. Nonetheless, this 5G model was mostlikely aimed at those looking to start with a Mac and get a full-fledged computer.
Case type: Polycarbonate unibody shell
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M MCP
Standard RAM: 2 GB (1792 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 4 GB (3840 MB usable)
Pros: Solid construction, cheaper than prior models, few if any changes from previous model
Cons: Limited trackpad motion support, RAM capped at 4 GB, looks less classy
Sixth generation (6G)
Perhaps the only generation not to offer a significant step up from the previous one, the sixth generation opened with a minor redesign of the white MacBook, which at long last had caught up with the earliest 5G models and therefore offered a better value than its previousmodel. MacBook Airs also see but a minorspeed bump. True improvement is not achieved until the arrival of the first mobile processors to use the emerging “Nehalem”microarchitecture and to see the return of multithreading support. The processor’s redesign also affords the ability to shut down inactive processor cores whilst boosting the clock speed of those that remain active. Unfortunately, MacBook Pros are the only models to receive this welcome upgrade, even if it only comes in a dual-core package to start with. All other models run on the last knownreleases of the “Penryn” core—a harbinger of things to come, maybe?
MacBook
From Mid 2009 onward, MacBooks continued to shadow their upper-crust siblings, but in the process, they ultimately catch up—to 2008’s lineup. It’s from here that these modelstake a multitouch glass-backed trackpad, a fixed battery, and the Mini DisplayPort monitor connection. A remolded unibody design gives this model a curved front. FireWire finally drops, as does the IR receiver; Apple found that many consumers buying the MacBook just didn’t care for either add-on. Still, subtle bumpsin CPU speed and battery life may have been enough to justify an upgrade from previous generation models.
Case type: Polycarbonate unibody shell
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M MCP
Standard RAM: 2 GB (1792 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 4 GB (3840 MB usable)
Pros: Long battery life, sleeker and slimmer design,slightly lighter
Cons: Almost no change from 5G setup; ports dropped
MacBook Pro (15” and17”)
As mentioned above, the 6G Pro offered little in the way of improvements over the 5G lineup—or so it might seem at first glance. Externally, they appear very much like the 5Gmodels, except that Apple has added an SD card slot to the port array—a big upgrade for camera buffs whom usually resorted to carrying cheap and oft-clunky card readers to dangle from a USB port.
Internally, these two flagship units make several changes to accommodate the Intel “Nehalem” architecture mentioned above. No longer could a third-party chipset be used—the direct result of a protracted battle between Intel and NVIDIA over the terms of the deal that allowed the Core2 to run on a non-Intel logic set. In its place, Intel supplied the “Arrandale” Core i-series multipurpose processors along with the then-new 5 series logic sets. Arrandale brought with it a completely new bus known as QuickPath Interconnect, which in theory was much improved over the traditional front-side bus. Also making their debut were Turbo Boost, which shut down one core and turned up the other based on demand, and the Intel HD Graphics core, a welcome boost over previous Intel offerings that for their part lacked muscle; this new engine could render 720p HD where 2007’s X3100 had to feign it. Last but certainly not least, Hyper Threading Technology, absent since the last of the Pentium 4 600 series CPU’s were cas tin 2006, returns to little fanfare but grants users twice the effective coresduring heavy workload.
Flash storage, introduced on MacBook Airs, makes its way into the mainstream lines with this generation and all that will follow it, though the drives’ expense and potential loss of storage space were not always justifiable, even though flash storage delivers on the promise of improved read/write access speeds.
Despite these huge gains, users anticipating quad-core chips on Macs when high-end Windows notebooks already had such were at the very least disappointed
For the discrete graphics engine, Apple again turned to NVIDIA for its 300-series chips, these being significantly more powerful than the 9-series previously used. Video RAM remained unchanged.
Case type: Anodized aluminum unibody
Chipset: Intel 5 Series/HD Graphics with NVIDIA GT 330M
Standard RAM: 4 GB (3840 MB usable inlow-energy modes)
Maximum RAM: 8.00 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM (7936 MB usable in low-energy modes)
Pros: Big lift from i-Series CPU’s, SD cards now usablewithout extra hardware, more starting RAM, SSD options for better performance
Cons: Low-energy modes use a graphics engine that is a drag on gaming for some (per user reports), still dual-core.
Seventh generation (7G)
There may be some discussion as to whether a seventh generation of Mac portables exists, or whether this line should be part of the sixth generation instead. Apple’s internal naming schemes for the mainstream models did indeed point to a seventh generation, so on that basis, here’s a definition: Seventh-gen models were, as the sixth-gen models, a mild refresh. This time, though, the refresh targeted only those models not receivingthe Arrandale i-Series upgrade. All models received the final upgrade of the Penryn Core2’s, as well as replacing NVIDIA’s 9400M MCP with a more robust version in the 320M.
With Windows XP in decline from 2009’s release of Windows 7, this became the last iteration of Mac portables to run the nearly-decade-old platform. Vista, too, would meet its end here, though Microsoft still considers it in mainstream support untilmid-2012. Perhaps Apple wished to streamline their Windows support to a single version—or perhaps it realized what so many others outside of itself knew from experience: Vista was a disaster, and it was best left to rot with its distant ancestor, Windows Me, inthe depths of history’s sewers.
MacBook
The trusty steed of many a cheapskate since its 2006 intro received what would be its last upgrade ever in mid 2010. The Penryn processor gets a slight bump from 2.1 GHz to 2.4 GHz, and NVIDIA 320M graphics round out the package. Otherwise, there’s not much new, for its reign as King of Value would quickly come to a close.
Case type: Polycarbonate unibody shell
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 320M MCP
Standard RAM: 2 GB (1792 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 4 GB (3840 MB usable)
Pros: Modest gains for CPU and GPU—but that’s it
Cons: Still cheap looking with a plastic shell—and you paid WHAT?
MacBook Pro (13”)
Now firmly rebranded as a Pro model, Apple’s 13” aluminum notebook was poised to gain clout with “prosumers” and other types that loved the aluminum look but did not want to pay extra for the new CPU’s of the 15” and 17” models. Still, these units made big gains from the new NVIDIA MCP and Penryn chips up to 2.66 GHz. All in all, this seemed a very well-balanced unit for one a full generation behind its peers, and one that was well worth its $1,200 entry fee
Case type: Anodized aluminum unibody
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 320M MCP
Standard RAM: 4 GB (3840 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 8.00 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM (7936 MB usable)
Pros: Full featured for the size, hits a“sweet spot” for the price
Cons: Aging architecture now at limit, no i-Series chips to be found
MacBook Air (Fourth Generation)
The head-turning Air gets a late 2010 all-around makeoverwhile expanding the family of portables to include Apple’s smallest notebook since the 12” PowerBook made a splash in 2003. Even at the new 11.6” size, the Air gets a slightly thicker body than its previous two models. The extra thickness isn’t enough to keep it from being the thinnest, but it is enough to add a much-requested second USB port and to eliminate the clumsy door covering the initial USB port and the video port in addition to exposing the MagSafe connector, making the once-awkward connection more accessible. This also gives it a more rectangular profile in line with Apple’s other models.
The upgraded 13” model doubles onboard flash storage andadds the SD card slot from the MacBook Pros.
Both models now feature factory upgrades to storage andRAM—up to 256 GB and 4GB respectively-- as well as new options from theultra-low-voltage Penryn Core2’s. Bothmodels also benefitted from NVIDIA’s 320M MCP Starting at 1.4 GHz with 64 GB ofstorage and 2 GB RAM for $999, the MacBook Air slowly began to earn its place as the value leader, costing just as much as the venerable white MacBook. Even so, with so many options for this model,there was something to fit every budget.
These models are the first to carry a specific OS requirement when running Boot Camp, despite running Snow Leopard as previous models can. Windows 7 is a must, though one would be hard-pressed trying to squeeze it into a minimally configured 11” unit
Case type: Anodized aluminum unibody
Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 320M MCP
Standard RAM: 2 GB (1792 MB usable)
Maximum RAM: 4 GB (3840 MB usable)
Pros: Still thin and light, wealth of options available,extra USB port, ports much more accessible
Cons: Options fixed at time of order, Boot Camp needs toospecific for some users
What About Sandy Bridge?
As of February 2011, Apple was one of the first manufacturers to introduce Intel’s Sandy Bridge platform to the world, ushering in the eighth and current generation of portable Macs. With this generation, quad-core, eight-thread i-Series CPU’s are a staple of the 15” and 17” high end, while dual-core ,quad-thread models still populate the lower end. Nonetheless, all models now benefit from the same new technology with none fully ahead of or behind the others.
All models also feature a breakthrough in peripheralconnectivity that combines bandwidths of both PCI Express and DisplayPort intoa bus markedly faster than any bus presently in use. Christened “Thunderbolt”, the new interface offers enormous potential with its theoretical 10 gigabit-per-second bandwidth. However, devices using Thunderbolt are only beginning to emerge on the market,thus it is still too early to offer any concrete opinion regarding thistechnology.
As these models are currently on sale (and have recentlybeen updated) at the Apple Store and Apple Authorized Resellers worldwide, to proffer any opinion of current models defeats the purpose of this, anhistorical document of Mac portable evolution.
Conclusion and Final Thoughts
To have witnessed and tracked the evolution of Apple’snotebook lines from 2006 to the present is no small feat. One could say that doing so is in fact opening a window on the history of Apple itself, for it is in Apple’s notebooks that we have seen the greatest innovations both from the company and in computing itself. From their inceptionin 2006, Apple’s Intel notebooks have evolved into some of the best and mostreliable notebooks on the market today. To be able to run Windows as well asthe Mac OS only solidifies that position.
Yet, with each stage of their evolution, the MacBook, MacBookPro and MacBook Air, while they have made significant forward progress, havehad to sacrifice features that some users find essential. Still, while the complaints roll in with each generation of notebooks, time must march on. Apple is a computer company after all, and must continually update its wares if it is to remain in its current position near the top of the industryat large.
The stark realities of Apple’s business, however, should never be used as an excuse to buy the latest and greatest hardware even if yours seems less capable than someone else’s. Holding onto older Apple hardware may actually put you at an advantage, since you may still be able to work with hardware that newer models don’tsupport. This is one of many reasons Macs tend to stick around longer than most Windows PCs.
I certainly hope you have enjoyed this look back at Apple’s Intel notebook lines. As a proudmember of the Mac community for almost eight years and a volunteer whose role connects him to computing past, I find this knowledge of the past fascinating; and yet it is vital to maintain such a background, as it can give us as users an idea of where the industry will be in the months and years to come.

Due to a copy/paste glitch, some necessary spaces have inadvertently been removed. If I could fix this, I would.

How to activate Intel Speedstep on Satellite L300-1BD?

Hi,
today i bought the Toshiba L300 - 1BD Vista is preinstalled.
To enhance my batterylife, i changed vista to "classical design" and the energy option to "power save".
Although it doesn't use Intel Speedstep technology.
When I run the utility: CPU-Z, it shows that the CPU Speed is on 2000 Mhz. Normally, when the CPU is idle, it should change the multiplier to low, which shout result in about 1000mhz. This saves much battery!
Does anybody know, why it is not working, or how to get it working?
Thanx and Greetz from Germany!

Are you sure the CPU supports the Intel Speed Step technology?
I googled a little bit and it seems that this unit was equipped with the Celeron-575 (Merom-2.00GHz) 667MHZ CPU
And Im 100% sure that this CPU *DOESNT* support Speed Step.

What is the processor family for an Intel T2080?

Hi everyone, I'm compiling my own kernel and I'm stuck on the part regarding processor family. I got a weird sort of CPU. It's an intel pentium dual core T2080. It's not a Core 2 Duo or any of that. According to wikipedia, the model name is 'Yonah' and it is based off of Pentium M. However, the CFlag article on the wiki recommended the Pentium 4 option for all Pentium Dual-Cores. I also got some other varying responses on IRC, including Pentium MMX and Xeon Duo Core. Anyone have any idea what processor family I should be using here? This is my /proc/cpuinfo output:
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 14
model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz
stepping : 12
cpu MHz : 1728.974
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
bogomips : 3459.02
clflush size : 64
power management:
processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 14
model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz
stepping : 12
cpu MHz : 1728.974
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 1
initial apicid : 1
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
bogomips : 3459.12
clflush size : 64
power management:

Ferrenrock wrote:
cerbie wrote:T2080 is a Core Duo (Yonah), for practical purposes. My Google-fu revealed this:
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=29740
I know, but what does Yonah go under? There is no 'yonah' option, moreover, it isn't listed under 'help' in any of the processor families. These are my options:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mak … 2AIntel.2A
Yonah is the code name for that specific core. Core Duo and Intel Dual-Core are brand names to sell the processors under.
A Pentium Dual-Core may be a Yonah (Core family), Merom (basically Conroe, Core 2), or Allendale (Core 2).
A Core Solo or Core Duo will only be Yonah. The Pentium Dual-Core variant just has half the L2 cache.
A Pentium 4 could be a Willamette, Northwood (A,B,C), or Prescott (D,E). The Prescott has had many revisions of other code names, and was a significantly chip from the previous Pentium 4 CPUs (initially, it was crap; but, after a few revisions, and compilers targeting it, it was OK). I forget where Cedar Mill fits in there, if at all, to consumer chips (it's basically, "we can fit more stuff on the Prescott die--cheap! Let's do it!").
A modern Celeron could be a Willamette, Northwood (as crappy as Deschutes, FYI), Prescott (D), Cedar Mill (D), or Allendale (Dual-Core).
There's no reason to give a single CPU its own tuning or architecture feature set, unless it really needs it. The Pentium-M sucked in many ways, so it needed it (they're not bad chips or anything, but were rushed out, due to AMD gaining ground in Notebooks). All of their chips since were designed to take the same kind of code as the Prescott, including the Atom, which is about as far away from the Prescott as you can get.
Last edited by cerbie (2008-11-23 03:09:23)

[solved] Intel Core 2 duo mobile should be i686 or x86_64 ?

My laptop has the following processor:
- Intel Core 2 duo mobile @ 2.00 GHz 4 MB cache (T7200 aka Merom-2M)
from cat /proc/cpuinfo:
- family is 6
- model is 15
- stepping is 6
so 6/15/6 in hex is 0x06F6 so the processor is actually SSPEC=SL9SL right ?
from: http://ark.intel.com/products/27255/Int … 67-MHz-FSB
from: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/In … 0414M.html
from: http://cdn.cpu-world.com/Images/uploade … 005742.gif
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merom_%28microprocessor%29
wikipedia: Merom is the first Intel mobile processor to feature Intel 64 architecture.
wikipedia: instruction set: x86_64
wikipedia: micro-architecture: core
if all the above is correct ... why my arch linux installation is i686 then ?
uname -a
blah blah blah ... i686 ...
what I am missing ?
Last edited by ivanborodin (2014-05-29 16:24:34)

Thank you all for your fast replies
I discovered this "issue" while reading that they were considering dropping i686 support for arch linux and I was starting to wonder if I should get a new laptop: good news for me is that my laptop will have some more time to go then, bad news is that when installing arch linux from the live image I messed things a bit: it is now obvious that I choose the wrong option so I have to reinstall.
Thanks for the link to switch the architecture from within a running system: while interesting (and a little bit unproven/untested as I see) I think reinstalling from scratch (while time-consuming) will solidify my knowledge or arch —as someone pointed out in an older post: to mess things up is to learn something new.

What kind of Intel chips does new MBP have?

...or even an iMac for that matter.
I tried to look at Intel website to try to identify both the codename and the processor type.
For example the best MBP processor you can get is the 2.8 GHz one and that might be either the Penryn 2.8 GHZ with L2 cache of 6144KB or the Merom one with the same frequency but with L2 cache of 4096 KB.
Also If that is the case both of the procs are rated Intel Core 2 Extreme (one is X7900 and the other is X9000). So if that's the case can we assume that the new MBPs can be fitted with intel core 2 extreme mobile procs?
Also the same story applies to the new iMac Intel 3.06 GHz...what kind of processor is that? best guess is that it is an E8400?
Thanks.

Hi Andrei,
Stefan...you're implying that the iMac uses a notebook proc? And yes i couldn't find the 3.06 GHz proc anywhere on Intel's website.
Follow the link I provided to the X9100.
The Intel iMacs were always based on Notebook technology ever since they came out.
Only exception is the usage of a 3.5" harddisk.
Mainly because of the integrated design of the iMacs and the need to have a decent cooling of the CPU and GPU made it a neccessity for Apple.
Andrei
PS: Come to think of it, i think it's the PC side of me still talking and asking useless question like what core 2 duo quad extreme blah blah proc does it have... Still new to Mac world.
No need for explanations of your intentions to ask.
This is the place to ask and as you can see you usually get answers.
Stefan

N Series - Intel Core 2 Duo T7300

I can't seem to find the N Series with Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 in the Canada website. I can only find it in the US site. Did I miss a link in the Canada website? I may be purchasing one so it needs to be ship to Canada.
Thanks!
Marie

Pros:
• Less power used
• Less heat
• Machine is quieter since it doesn't need to rev the fans up.
Cons
• Meroms are more expensive than Conroes
• Slower FSB
Even though the FSB is slower than the Pentium D it will hand that processor it's booty in performance. I'd rather have the 4MB L2 cache than a faster FSB.

Intel Core 2 Duo 64 or 32-bit?

Could someone please tell me how to find out if my macs are 64-bit or 32-bit? Both mine are Intel Core2 Duo. 1) mac mini-2ghz-1gb ram and 2) iMac 24" 3.06ghz 4gb ram.
Thank You
Message was edited by: dojoos

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
The processors are both 64-bit - the one in the mini is a 'Merom' device, which was Intel's first 64-bit C2D processor, introduced in mid 2007. The iMac CPU is the updated version of it, the 'Penryn', which was introduced early this year.
ON EDIT: For reference, you'll see the architecture described at http://www.apple.com/macmini/intel.html (there's no directly equivalent page for the iMac)

IMac 24" - 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or Extreme? Confused

Hey there, sorry if this is a really stupid question, but I recently bought the top model iMac 24", which is advertised as coming with a 2.8Ghz Intel Core 2 Extreme processor. However, when I got to 'About My Mac' it say it's a 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. Am I being stupid, or is this not right? Thanks

The Intel iMacs (and Mac Mini) have always used laptop processors: Initially the Core Duo - Yonah, then the Core 2 Duo - Merom and now the Core 2 Extreme - *Merom Extreme*.
Apple doesn't use any of the faster, cheaper, desktop Intel processors (like the desktop Core 2 Duo which is called Conroe ). The Mac Pros use the workstation/server processors Woodcrest or Clovertown.
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Guilty Party,
My Core 2 Extreme 2.8GHz reads Core 2 Duo too. Now I accept that these are both basically the same processor but I rather think OS X should report the processor fully so have left feedback to Apple to request the change.
cheers
mrtotes

Upgrade Intel Core Duo iMac to Core 2 Duo?

I know that, in theory a Merom processor is compatible with a motherboard made for a Yonah CPU, which is what's in the original Intel iMacs. However, I know that most Wintel laptops require a BIOS flash in order to support the newer processor.
My question: do you think it will be possible for us to upgrade to the Core 2 Duo from the Core Duo? Will the speed increase be worth it? From what I've read, Merom is not that much faster than Yonah, but has anyone seen anything different?

Hello,
People have installed them in the Mac Mini CoreSolo and CoreDuo without a BIOS or Firmware update. So, it should be fine doing the same in the iMac CoreDuo.
The CPU is in a socket in the iMac CoreDuo, so installation should not be a problem (if you don't mind dismantling your computer and voiding your warranty).
Reports have varied on the speed difference. But, you do gain 64-BIT capabilities with Merom. Otherwise, Merom's specs are very similar to Yonah, so the gains are only going to come from optimized routines. Raw processing power probably isn't much different and the bus speed is the same.
At this point in time, you're going to pay a lot for a new Merom chip. So, the cost benefit probably isn't there for an upgrade. But, as they become common and new versions arrive, the chips will probably drop a bit in price and make the upgrade more cost effective.
I hope this helps.
Let us know if you have other questions.
P.S., if you'd like, go ahead and click the "Helpful" or "Solved" buttons on any of the posts / replies above if you feel they were helpful or adequately answered your question.

T61, T60 - BSOD for Intel WiFi cards, Middleton BIOS, & Win 8.1 & 10

This is an "all-in-one" post. Recently, my trusty T61p started getting Blue Screens of Death (BSOD) with the following message:
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQAL in sysnetwlv64.sys This has been frequently reported as a complication of Windows 8.1 (only) when installing the Intel drivers for the 3945 and 4965 WiFi cards. Both Intel and Microsoft state that these cards, plus the 5200 are no longer supported, but the 6200, 6300, etc. are. Suggested remedies are:
1. For the T61's, reflash with the Middleton BIOS (2.29 plus mods - no white list, SATA 2 works). Then install a more recent WiFi card that has supported drivers for Win 8.1.
2. Change cards in both the T60 and T61s to the IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad 11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Mini-PCI Express Adapter 42T0825 (this is an Atheros AR5008 5418 AR5BXB72). In recent posts I have seen about Win 10, the old Intel drivers that used to work for Win 8.0 (but didn't in 8.1) appear to work in Win 10. (However, since it is still before July 29, I can only assume this is in preview versions, not RTM). If anyone has actually in installed the Win 10 RTM and had no problems, this whole thing may be a "non-issue". Is there any experience with this? If I follow the remedies suggested above:
1. Using the replace the card approach with the Middleton BIOS, what is a good card to get? The other benefit of the Middleton BIOS is to allow the harddrives in the T-61's as SATA 2 instead of the dumbed-down SATA 1 as in the stock 2.29, 2.30 BIOS
2. If I follow the replace with the Atheros cards, I assume the best approach is to see if there are 3 antennas in the T60 (the T61's already have them). If not, I understand that I can add the 3rd antenna with FRU 42R9909. For specific machine configurations, see the specs at the bottom (they're all "FrankenPads"). Many thanks for looking and your comments... --------------------------------------T-61p -- 15.4" WXSGA+, Win 8.1 64-bit, BIOS 2.30, CPU-T9500 2.6 GHz (Penryn), RAM 8GB DDR2-667 (2x4GB), HD 500GB (7200RPM, SATA 2, WD5000BPKT-00PK4T0), NVIDIA Quadro F570FM (1680x1050 - 9.18.13.2702), DVD-RAM, WiFi Intel 4965 (13.3.0.137), Ethernet Intel 82566MM (9.13.41.3), Ricoh Media Cardbus (6.3.9600.16384), Biometric CPU (1.6.1.341), Conexant Modem (7.62.0.0), Broadcom Bluetooth (12.0.0.8047) T-61 -- 14.1" WXGA+, Win 8.1 64-bit, BIOS 2.30, CPU-T7800 2.6 GHz (Merom), RAM 8GB DDR2-667 (2x4GB), HD 320GB (7200RPM, SATA 3, WD3200BEKX-22B7W4T0), NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M (1440x900 - 9.18.13.2702), DVD-RAM, WiFi Intel 4965 (13.3.0.137), Ethernet Intel 82566MM (9.13.41.3), Biometric CPU (1.6.1.341), Conexant Modem (7.62.0.0), Broadcom Bluetooth (12.0.0.8047) T-60 -- 14.1" XGA, Win 8.1 32-bit, BIOS 2.27, TPM 1.2, CPU-T7600 2.3 GHz (Merom), RAM 3GB usable DDR2-667 (2x2GB), HD 320GB (7200RPM, SATA 2, WD3200BEKT-00PVM4T0), Intel Graphics 945 Express (1024x768 - 8.15.10.2697), DVD-RAM, WiFi Intel 3945ABG (13.3.0.137), Ethernet Intel PRO/1000PL (9.15.11.0), Biometric CPU (1.6.1.341), Conexant Modem (7.62.0.0), Broadcom Bluetooth (12.0.0.8047)

I'd say go with Middleton BIOS either way (SATA II). In which case, get a newfangled 802.11ac card while you're at it.

Why did Apple exclude Intel Core Duo Macbook from Lion compatibility?

I own Macbook with Intel Core Duo. I just discovered that I cannot install OSX 10.7 (Lion) on this Macbook. Why did Apple exclude this system?

Some MacMini 1.83s had Intel Core 2 Duo's, are you sure about that being a Core Duo?
OVERVIEW
Introduced
August 2007
Discontinued
March 2009
Model Identifier
Macmini2,1
Model Number
A1176
Order Number
MB138LL/A (1.83 GHz), MB139LL/A (2.0 GHz)
Initial Price
$599 (1.83 GHz) $799 (2.0 GHz)
Support Status
Supported
Weight and Dimensions
2.9 lbs., 2" H x 6.5" W x 6.5" D
PROCESSOR
Processor
Intel Core 2 Duo (T5600, T7200) ("Merom")
Processor Speed
1.83 or 2.0 GHz
Architecture
64-bit
Number of Cores
2
Cache
2 MB (1.83 GHz) 4 MB (2.0 GHz) shared
System Bus
667 MHz
STORAGE AND MEDIA
Storage
80 (1.83 GHz only), 120, or 160 GB 5400-rpm
Media
Slot-loading Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW) or Slot-loading SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

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