Interlace Deinterlace HELP

Hi, I'm using Final cut pro on my College Imac to create some music video's that I upload onto youtube. When exporting I was told to De-interlace so I can upload and it turned out fine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMmQElHtmw but then I asked to put a graphic over the top so I put one in as a .PNG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQenbQYcYkU and the lines from the Interlace come back and I have no idea why or how to remedy it, could someone help.
Alex

I see the interlacing in the second video (it's not terrible, though). How are you de-interlacing?
Patrick
P.S. Welcome to the discussions

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exporting the 10 minute sequence using QT conversion, as a pro res 422 HQ quicktime movie...
You are adding an unneeded compression cycle for a start. Export with QuickTime Conversion always recompresses your footage, even when you use the same settings as your Timeline.
Export to QuickTime with Current Settings, Self Contained will give you a Master file that is identical to what you edited.
weird "interlaced" looking edges whenever there is movement in the video...
If your source material is interlaced it will look odd on a computer monitor. It will display correctly on a TV set.
having to do with de-interlacing, or something I have missed?
Deinterlacing will throw away half of the vertical resolution. Bye bye HD. No good can come of that, right?
What is your intended delivery format? Does the method that you are currently using to view the material compare with how the end product will be seen?

Interlace Deinterlace Export and Youtube Problem

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Any settings suggestions to make this work? Besides deinterlacing every single clip on the timeline? Or is that the only option.
Is there any editing software you can recommend - not high end professional - that will work?
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Premiere Elements can definitely work with video from this camcorder shot in 1920x1080 AVCHD at 60i. It also appears that your cam can shoot in both stereo and 5.1 audio, both of which Premiere Elements can support -- but take note of which you select so that you can match these specs when you set up your program.
Currently Premiere Elements doesn't support 1920x1080 at 60p -- that consumer interest in that format is growing, so you may well see support for it in an upcoming version of the program.
Most professional video editors will work with 1080p60, including Premiere Pro CS6 and Vegas Pro.
As for the different quality levels of your video, that's your call. The program should be able to work with any of them. But if you want the best results, I'd use the highest bit rate/quality.

Exported MPEG2 extremely interlaced! HELP!

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Hi,
Would anyone explain it to me in very simple - easy to understand terms? What is Interlacing and Deinterlacing and how it works?

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I thought that I was working in a progressive format all the way.
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My video file is DV, 720 × 576 (768 × 576) with letterboxing
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Back to a computer:
Pete Thomas wrote
Result is 16:9 file, not too large and no lines. Just as good as the original.
I find it odd that I have to use QT Pro
Hey Pete. Whatever works…
If you want to try another way, start out by setting up tour FCP project like so:
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Pete Thomas wrote:
Open the DV movie in QT pro 7, expert with Apple Pro Ress 422 HQ and interlace ticked.
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You wanted a DVD to play back on computers (either in addition to or rather than television play-back). Since H.264 is not a DVD standard, I assume you compressed it once again to make an MPEG-2. That's a lot of generations of compression and lost information: DVPAL>ProRes HQ>H.264>MPEG-2. Much simpler, quicker and higher quality to go directly from DV PAL (or NTSC) to MPEG-2.
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How to export h.264 interlaced video??

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The node tree is a borrow from the Shake topology, as it interfaces nicely with scripting.
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Help understanding workflow for best quality.

Greetings.
I've read countless hours on this forum in the effort to understand this extremely complicated subject of getting my video out of my camera and onto a DVD in the best quality possible, and I'm still a little confused.
I'm not recording anything that is particularly high-action, but rather weddings, funerals, (yeah, I know), children's school programs, and my next big project is a seminar with keynote speaker.
I have three Sony HDR SR-11 cameras, which clearly record video as ACHDV and the video signal is 1080/60i (NTSC). I could also record in SD with an MPEG2 file.
I understand the a DVD is only SD at best, and am recording in HD since I have room for the files, and someday we might have better options for the video than we have now.
I started using iMovie, and have iMovie 11, and just love how easy and slick it is to make impressive looking stuff.
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I own a copy of FCE, but was overwhelmed when I first started to use it, and on a time crunch for that project, reverted back to iMovie.
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What would my specific advantages be, if any, to learning FCE? If a huge difference could be made, I would take the time to learn FCE, and I could lay out another couple hundred bucks for other software, if you had some to recommend that would greatly surpass what I'm doing, in place of iDVD or another intermediary I should be using.
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Video:
Compression: H.264
Quality: High
Key frame:24
Frame reordering: yes
Encoding: multi-pass
Dimensions: 960x540
Sound:
Format: Integer (Little Endian)
Sample: 44.1 kHz
Sample: 16-bit
Channels: Stereo
Then create menus in iDVD and burn to DVD.
Could you please give me feedback on my process, and try to answer my questions and clear up my confusion? I'd appreciate it so much!
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Does FCE do this with multiple cameras? I'd want to make sure that FCS does it, before I buy it and am stuck with it, especially if FCE will do it and I already have it.
Yes and No
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My small one is.
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Is there anything I'm missing? Is there a way to get QT Player Pro to deinterlace playback of MPEG2 without converting to a different format?
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Interlaced Scaling
If you are scaling an interlaced file to a different height, you can tell MPEG Streamclip to preserve interlacement and scale each video field separately by checking "Interlaced Scaling". If you don't, interlacement will be lost in the scaled movie, and, worse, you will get many visual artifacts. This setting is now enabled by default; remember to disable it with progressive files.
Interlacement requires a frame height of more than 288 pixels. If the frame height of the source file is up to 288, interlaced scaling will not be enabled. If the frame height you have chosen for the exported movie is up to 288 and you check "Interlaced Scaling", MPEG Streamclip discards the lower field before scaling the picture (i.e. it performs a fast deinterlacing by dropping one field).
Reinterlace Chroma
If you are converting an interlaced MPEG-1/MPEG-2 file, you may wish to "reinterlace" chroma. By checking "Reinterlace Chroma" you can enable a special remapping of 4:2:0 chroma lines so they will be split correctly between the two video fields. This is a very advanced option: only professional users may see the difference in the output movie. This option is enabled by default; disable it when you are sure your file is not interlaced.
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If you have an interlaced file, you may also want to deinterlace it, usually to convert into a progressive format, get a "film" effect and have a better playback on the computer's display. When you check the option "Deinterlace Video", MPEG Streamclip enables a special motion-adaptive deinterlacer, and it deinterlaces the lower field in the parts that contain motion, and preserves video quality of all parts that do not contain motion; the upper field is left unchanged. This option slows down the conversion.
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Not sure this will be of any real benefit in your case, but thought I should point it out for your consideration and see how it applies to your particular work flow.

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evening board
i have a ppc mini with an "enabler" version of front row.
I have many gigs of mpeg2 streams recorded from an eyetv session that play fine in eyetv, VLC and mplayer however i get horizonal lines appear when I play it in quicktime or frontrow.
It seems to happen most when lost of screen activity is happening e.g. a panning camera or an explosion.
As I alread said this does'nt happen in eyetv or VLC or even mplayer, just frontrow and quicktime.
I can play divx encoded movies in frontrow fine, no problems and things like podcasts are fine also it just seems to be mpeg2.
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i have come to the conclusion that it is the mpeg2 codec for QT.
converting the mpeg2 to DV and playing using QT allows the de-interlace option to work as the DV codec seems to support this.
however not for mpeg2
at the moment I am using VLC player, but this has no nice user front end like front row making my mini a less than elegant media centre.
VLC manages de-interlacing fine, various options blend/bob progressive etc etc all produce nice results.
its possibel, so why doesn;t QT do what it says on the tin?
any suggestions from anyone?
very disapointed.........
Steve

Stills ?

I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of the jitteryness when importing jpegs to FCP. Do you just de-interlace them or is there something else one can do ?

It depends on what is causing the "jitters." Sometimes deinterlacing helps if the still was made form a frame of video in which there was some motion of the subject. If it jitters due to the image resolution being too high, then reducing the pixel resolution would be the answer. Or if there are certain areas of the image that contain thin horizontal lines or tight patterns, blurring those specific areas will usually take care of it, or try the Flicker filter in FCP.
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I have to upload a 3 minute snippet to imdb, and they sent me a note saying it needs to be 480X360 to be viewable.... The snippet is copied from the DVD I ripped with Handbrake at MP4....The current dimensions of the 3 minute snippet are 853X460....is there a way of exporting the snippet through QT to meet 480X360 requirement, or do I have to rip the DVD again on Handbrake, and if I do, what settings do I make on Handbreak? Thanks for any help, most appreciated/

I have to upload a 3 minute snippet to imdb, and they sent me a note saying it needs to be 480X360 to be viewable.... The snippet is copied from the DVD I ripped with Handbrake at MP4....The current dimensions of the 3 minute snippet are 853X460....is there a way of exporting the snippet through QT to meet 480X360 requirement, or do I have to rip the DVD again on Handbrake, and if I do, what settings do I make on Handbreak?
Need more information to best answer your question.
1) Your 853x460 file has an aspect ratio of 1.85:1 here. (If you really mean 853x480 here which would be a 16:9 ot 1.78:1 aspect ratio.) On the other hand, your target dimensions of 480x360 has an aspect ratio of 4:3 or 1.33:1. So the first question question is how you need/want to encode your target file. You can...
a) encode a 1.85:1 (or 1.78:1) aspect file as a non-anamorphic 1.33:1 aspect file, but then the people and objects in the video will be distored—i.e., they will look taller and skinnier than they should,
b) encode the target file at its original aspect ratio but fit it within the target display area—i.e., encode the 853x460 file as a 480x260 (or 853x480 file as a 480x270) non-anamorphic file,
c) encode the target file as a letterbox file—i.e., encode the 853x460 file as a 480x260 (or 853x480 file as a 480x270) non-anamorphic file overlayed on a 480x360 background,
d) or if the 480x360 dimensions refer to a limit on the encode matrix, then it would be possible to encode the source file as an anamorphic 480x360 file which would then display as a 666x360 1.85:1 aspect (or 640x360 1.78:1 aspect) file.
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