Interunit elimination documents

Hi Friends
I wonder if is correct that the documents of Interunit Elimination appear after execute balance carry forward?
example
I have a document for interunit elimination in period 12 and then I execute Balance carryforward (period 1)and execute the task "acc recev Vs account Pay" and the total data from this item still appear.
Is necesary to do the task "period initialization"?
Thanks in advance
cheers

If you have document types configured for automatic inversion, you must use period initialization.
If you do not use automatic inversion document types and therefore do not need period initialization, then you will still see period 000 records with balances for the documents, but the system knows to factor these into the automatic tasks to determine accurate periodic postings for the accurate balances.
For what it is worth, I prefer to avoid this type of document and the period initialization task, and have had success in doing so in many cases. However, the customer enterprise determines whether or not that is the requirement.

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Reporting interunit elimination documents

Hi gurus:
I have a problem, I need to do a report with query designer with documents of interunit eliminations of all month from the first consolidation this query will be with the same estructure that a document interunit elimination.
thanks for your help

If you have document types configured for automatic inversion, you must use period initialization.
If you do not use automatic inversion document types and therefore do not need period initialization, then you will still see period 000 records with balances for the documents, but the system knows to factor these into the automatic tasks to determine accurate periodic postings for the accurate balances.
For what it is worth, I prefer to avoid this type of document and the period initialization task, and have had success in doing so in many cases. However, the customer enterprise determines whether or not that is the requirement.

Manual Interunit Elimination

Dear experts,
I have a case like this. From R3, some P & L accounts which are used for interunit profit & loss eIimination don't have information of trading partners. Is it possible to only put information of "trading partner" in BCS without having such information from R3, and successfully perform manual interunit elimination of profit & loss?
Thanks for the clarification.

Hi Rina,
In case of elimination of revenue and expenses in P&L, you may have trading partner on the revenue side and no partner on expenses. In this case you may use one-sided elimination.
Or, you may know the proper partners, then:
- use the manual entries
or
- enter partners into BCS through data entry layouts and use the standard elimination.
And the answer to your question: yes, you may.

Interunit elimination for P&L accounts

HI all,
In the 'Interunit elimination' we would like that for p&l interunit eliminations (accounts 6200 and 7000) the system would automaticaly clear them againts the Current year retained earning account (1290 in our case), consequently the P&L Annual net income statement Item (8000 in our case) and to balance the posting at CU level we need to configure a clearing account.
In several documentation we have read that the offseting account was a specific consolidation item similar to 1290 (1299 in our case) that after running all the eliminations ends with a balance on it.
Example: 7000 - Income' = 12.000,00 >>> The adjustment posting is:
D 7000 12.000,00 u20AC
H 1299 -12.000,00 u20AC
D 1290 12.000,00 u20AC
H 8000 -12.000,00 u20AC
What should be done with the resulting balance on 1299 account and which task type (authomatic, manual,...) it's oftenly used for doing whatever that has to be done and furthemore: is it generally cleared againts one account type (receivable, payables, ...)?
This is our current customizing but maybe there could exist a simplier way to run the Interunit elimination for P&L accounts?
Thanks in advance

Clearing account for Interunit elimination of P&L balances.

Interunit eliminations in ECCS

Hello Consolidation Guru,
I have a problem with executing inter-unit eliminations in ECCS (transaction CX54). I have set up all the configuration appropriately - Methods, Tasks and Document types, and have specified the FS Items that should be eliminated. Also, I have posted several documents and specified the trading partner in the line item of the relevant accounts.
However, when I execute the elimination transaction CX54 (or using the consolidation monitor), I get the message "No elimination needs to be done for the specified selection."
I feel I have been through each relevant step of the configuration for this to work, but maybe I am missing something. Any ideas will be welcome.
Thanks for your help in advance,
Haresh Sangani

Hi Haresh,
Before you post a question try to read the Rules & Regulations of the Forum.
First & Foremost is search for your query if it has been asked before or even if you get a slight idea from something hope as a SAP consultant you can try to solve by yourself.
Second is the most important one - Dont ever Copy/Paste a question or an answer.
You have copied the same question which Harmind has posted before.
[Harmind's Question|Inter-unit Elimination in ECCS;
Dan was actually answering Harmind's query & if ur query is the same as Harmind you can wait for Dan to clarify things clearly with Harmind & give him the solution.You can verywell use it after that.
If you have a different query, as Dan suggested you can specify it in the same thread with the details or You can create a new thread with your OWN problem which you have faced.
Instead you have copy pasted the same content what Harmind has asked.
Try to be more specific if you face the same problem or avoid copy pasting.
Hope you will get the right solution when you do it in the right way.
Regards
Andrew

InterUnit Elimination Task not shown in Consolidation Monitor

Dear Experts,
WHile executing The consolidation Monitor for Inter Unit Elimination Task,
I can see the Task at Company Level,, but not at Consolidation Unit Level. Can some one suggest how to resolve that.
Hierarchy--NameTask Group--
Task
Hier-1--Hier NameO--
O
Cons Unit-1------ CU Name--Blank--
Blank
Cons Unit-2------ CU Name--Blank--
Blank
Kindly advise.
Thanks
Rakesh Shrivastav

Dear Sir,
I have defined teh document Type as follows :-
Properties Tab
Posting Level -    Two Sided Elimination Entry
Balance Check-   Error when Balance not equal to Zero
Application-         Other
Posting-               Automatic Posting
Inversion -         NO Automatic Inversion
Key Figures
Transaction Currency (Ticked)
Group Currency (Ticked)
Number Range : (ZX) Created and assigned
Clearing Items Tab
Clearing Balance Sheet
GL Account - GL Account (Created manually in BCS as BS Item)
Clearing Income Statment
GL Account - GL Account (Created manually in BCS as INcome Statment Item)
Is any thing ommited???

GETWA_NOT_ASSIGNED error in CL_UC_MANUAL_DOCUMENT_GUI

Hello,
I am receiving the GETWA_NOT_ASSIGNED runtime error in program CL_UC_MANUAL_DOCUMENT_GUI when trying to view a specific BCS document from the "List of Journal Entries" output (UCWB or UCMON). The error only occurs when trying to view two specific interunit elimination document types (other elimination documents have no problem). Based on what I could find from existing notes, I thought that the problem might be related to incorrect entries being stored in the buffer. However, the corrections for OSS notes 914672 and 982402 have been applied but I am still receiving the error.
System Info:
SAP_BW 350: SAPKW35019
SEM_BW 400: SAPKGS4015
Program: CL_UC_MANUAL_DOCUMENT_GUI
Method: SWITCH_PLACE_KFIG_UNIT
Code:
 80 * i_docflg = 'X':
 81 * .key figure is posted by doc. type
 82 * .model supports key figure that is posted by doc. type (has
 83 * been verified after reading doc. type properties)...
 84 * -> both <ls_fprop_kfig> and <ls_fprop_unit> are assigned
 85 * and <> init
 86 * ...prepare kfig entry...
>>>>> move-corresponding <ls_fprop_kfig> to ls_mdoc_fprop_kfig.
 88 ls_mdoc_fprop_kfig-component = gc_comp_docline.
 89 * begin of deletion "wms012788d
 90 * if <ls_fprop_unit>-totals is initial.
 91 ** -> unit field is NOT contained in totals (s_char), i.e. an
 92 ** substitute field in s_addchar is required, depending
 93 ** on role of key figure...
 94 * case i_role_kfig.
 95 * when uc00_cs_role-tcval.
 96 * ls_mdoc_fprop_kfig-unit_fld = GC_FNAME_TCKEY.
 97 * when uc00_cs_role-lcval.
 98 * ls_mdoc_fprop_kfig-unit_fld = GC_FNAME_lCKEY.
 99 * when uc00_cs_role-gcval.
100 * ls_mdoc_fprop_kfig-unit_fld = GC_FNAME_gCKEY.
101 * when uc00_cs_role-quval.
102 * ls_mdoc_fprop_kfig-unit_fld = GC_FNAME_quKEY.
103 * endcase.
104 * endif.
105 * end of deletion "wms012788d
106 * begin of insertion "wms012788d
Many thanks in advance for any assistance with this issue.
Samir

Hello Eugene,
Thank you for the response.
The error occurs in a production environment. The customer has been using BCS since July 2007 but there have not been any elimination entires of the two document types until this past month. That we haven't seen these elimination entries until now was due to the nature of the source data and not due to any newly added configuration.
Samir

Cutover from manual document type to automatic document type

Hi, has anyone ever cut over from manual to automatic document type?
(I have seen the opposite, where an automatic document type becomes manual. It was successful)
Eg in a data migration, to populate some interunit elimination history data (but avoiding runnnig tasks on history), we could post intrerunit via PL20 flexible upload to a 'manual' document type.
Then before first use of BCS tasks in the system, change the document type from manual to automatic.
i can't see any reason why it would not work, will need to be tested of course.
Any experience or comments out there?

Thanks guys, I've been too busy to test this but I'm very sure it does work and I also checked with SAP and they agreed.
So closing the message - I'll only update this message if it does NOT work as expected.

SEM-BCS: Cons Group Field Required for Inter-Unit Elimination

Hi!
I need help.
I need to use document type for manual postings that allows me to indicate the cons group field.
I understand the PL10 is cons unit dependent only and not cons group.
I know that PL12 allows cons group posting.
But from what I understand PL12 is not captured in the inter-unit elimation task.
Is there other way?
Appreciate response.

Hi Adam and Eugene,
Thanks for the helpful response.
However I want my manual entries related to inter-unit elimination to reflect in one cons group only, considering that we have different hierarchies in our system.
The manual entries related to I/U elimation is basically an adjustment to the intercompany accounts. The purpose of my manual entries is to minimize the value of the difference of my intercompany accounts.
for example: (before interunit elimination)
Company A has intercompany accounts receivable of 100 USD with trading partner Company B
However, Company B recorded 50 USD intercompany payable with trading partner Company A. Company B has understated figure of 50 USd
To manually adjust in the BCS system, I'll post in Company B debit inventory and credit intercompany payable 50 with trading partner Company A.
Question is I want my adjusting entries to relfect only at the top hierarchy (one cons group) and not at the other cons group
Is there a way?
Please advice.
Thank you so much

Elimination

Have a question with following example...
Company A own 25% of Comppany B, but uses the 'Purchase method' to consolidate the company B.
Now at the year end B declares dividend to all and Company 'A' 25 % of total dividend declared.
Now when consolidation is done by Company 'A' dividend elimination should be part Intercompany elimination of expense/income
or.
Should it be part of COI elimination functionality.
I beleive it should be part of IC elimination of income/expense than COI . Please let me know your opinion.

This is typically an interunit elimination with posting level 20. However, there is a unique document type to select for this in order for COI to recognize this accurately.

IU Elimination Difference Subassignments (Business Area and Profit Center)

Hi experts, it's my second tread in the forum and is in one day, I'm expired.
 
 
Let's clarify the situation.
 
 
At the past I'm using the parameters settings of IU Eliminination Difference Subassigments with fixed values, now, with our necessity, we question SAP how to do a interunit elimination receiving the business area and Cons. Profit. Center from the trigger at the differences, and it apparently was simple solve, we just need to mark the "default value" flag and voila, system will do what we need, but is not so simple how we think.
 
 
In productive environment, we have data since June/2009, and we want to change this from Jan/2010, but elimination is cumulated, and I suspect SEM-BCS is trying to correct the past.
 
 
Does anybody pass this situation ?
 
 
What we need is on every elimination on selection items and the difference items receive the business area and cons. profit center from the trigger (this have to remain with the origins), and the total value of elimination on period don't have to change, do you understand ?
 
 
When change the configuration of the task and execute that, the eliminaton value change too ? We suspect it is
because we have data before this period.
 
 
If you need more explanation, please advice me, I will give more details.
 
 
Here we are in SEM-BCS 600 EHP 2
 
 
Best Regards
 
Alexandre Mendoza Collepicolo

The breakdown category and the corresponding data is the same in the source system. I think I did`t express very well.
I will put my understand about the default flag of the difference screen: This is used to try to get the subassignments from the items which we select on the preview screen not the fixed parameters. i.e.: Business Area.
On January, we decided to get the subassignments on difference from the items on selection screen, for this we flag the default value, and re-execute the elimination on the monitor, but, when we execute this, the value is entirely wrong/different from the other, we suppose when we flag that and re-execute the elimination we get more line of elimination on total records with the business area, but that's not what happened, we have strange value with a total of elimination very different.
Is it clear the operation ?
I contact SAP and they are analyzing the case, but if anyone had a similar problem please advice me.
Best Regards
Alexandre Mendoza Collepicolo

Consolidation Unit Clearing account for Income / Expenses elimination

Hi,
When companys are leaving the group, where the parent comapany has some income/expenses elimination transactions with the company leaving, there is still balance on the parent company on consolidation unit clearing account with the company leaving the group as partener company.
This shows incorrectely the retained earning for the parent company for posting leve20 when balances on consolidation unit clearing account is not included. Please advise.
We are not unsing COI but we are using Group change functionalities when company leaves the grop.
Furthere, in all auto elimination document type for Balance Sheet Elimination and Income statement elimination, we have assigned same consolidation unit clearing account. Please advise.
Best Regards,
UR

When viewing the results using the standard reporting mode I suspect the balances are okay. Please clarify in detail how the data is being analyzed so we may better assist.

SEM-BCS One vs Two Sided Eliminations

Hi,
What are the significant differences between One and two sided elimination?
When do we use one sided and when to use two sided?
Thanks is advance.

Hi,
Interunit eliminations happen between pairs of cons units.
Two-sided elimination might be used when both cons units have information regarding operations between them.
Example: A/P & A/R in balance sheet:
The company X has A/R in amount ZZZ with regard to Y company-partner.
The company Y has A/P in amount ZZZ with regard to X company-partner.
All these entries mean that Company Y owe Company X $ZZZ amount.
Using this two-directed information the system may exclude these liabilities.
Certainly, not always amount of debt is shown equally by both companies. In this case we select the strategy of writing off the difference.
One-sided elimination might be used when only one cons units have information regarding operations with another unit.
The typical example: elimination of interunit revenue and expense in P&L:
The company X sold iron ore (its finished product) to Y company-partner. Usually, the P&L revenue accounts have subassignment by the company-partner.
The company Y wrote off the bought ore to its production in progress. Usually, expense items of P&L don't have subassignment by the company-partner.
The system encountering an amount on the P&L revenue item, looks for unit-partner and deducts the amount from the revenue of company X and expenses of unit-partner, regardless of the fact that unit-partner doesn't show in P&L any such operations between companies.
So, if you have enough information from both ends of pairs of cons units - use two-sided elimination. Otherwise, you simply have to aplly one-sided elimination.
Hope this helps.

Partial Eliminations

Hello guys,
I want to apply eliminations postings based on a percentage, is "Consolidation of investment" the only option to do so ? Is there a way of doing it using simple interunit eliminations ?
If yes, where (in customizing) should I enter the rate?
Thank you in advance,
Best regards,
Pascal.

Hi Pascal,
Actually, it's not a standard functionality.
But I used to implement very simplified version of consolidation of investments.
You proper noticed that for elimination of investment and equity in the simpliest cases (no goodwill, no complex movements in Groups) is enough one-sided elimination. All amount on equity accounts were placed on a separate contra-account in capital.
Then a special reclass extracted minority interest from this contra-account.
Percentage was assigned to a new ANI account. Actually it's a real ANI like the sum of all P&L accounts but outside the P&L hierarchy.

Intercompany profit elimination

Hi,
My client is using T-Code cx50 to manually post intercompany transactions. Currently 370000 (I/C Sales) eliminates against 470110 (Cost of sales) and is automated.
My question is
1) where can i see this automated process?
2) How can i setup automated process for the account 112097(I/C Inv.deffered) elimination against 209055 (I/C deff. revenues)
Any response is appreciated.
Thanks in advance...
Vijay.

Hi,
The transaction code which youhave mentioned(CX54) is for interunit elimination, but my question is to automate the postings in consolidation.
I have defined a method in the T-Code CXE7 and my question is how to automate this process if there are some profitcenters attached for the accounts.
How to include the profitcenters while automating the process.
Any response will be appreciated.
Thanks & Rgds,
Vijay.

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