IPhoto '09 and Aperture 3.1; Need both?

I've just gotten Aperture 3.1, imported all of my iPhoto library (keeping files in the original iPhoto location).
Is there a reason to keep iPhoto and Aperture?
Or should I import all of iPhoto to the new Aperture library and then delete iPhoto?
Why have both?

There are actually a couple reasons to have both. If you have a multiuser system - either with one computer or a home network - sharing an iPhoto library is very easy to set up and nearly bug free, whereas sharing an Aperture library is quite risky. If you have created any books, calendars or cards in iPhoto, those do not get imported or converted when you migrate your photos to Aperture. So you should not delete photos in those creations unless you want to delete the creations. In addition the latest version of Aperture does not create these things so you may want to keep the iPhoto program around with an empty library as you can access your Aperture library in iPhoto via the iLife browser. Personally, I use both. I take all of my top photos every month and export a folder of fairly large JPGs which I then import into iPhoto. Then every one in the family can use the iPhoto tools for making desktops, screen savers and whatever else they want. The originals are well protected from all the other users.

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