IPhoto '11 and RAW/JPEG handling (good/bad) ?

I've upgraded to iPhoto '11 and discovered (don't know if it's a new feature) that iPhoto handles RAW extremely well. I can view RAW files and edit etc in a smooth manner - which is great.
Actually it's so great that i've started shooting photos in RAW only (so i don't get duplicates in iPhoto when importing RAW/JPEG) - but is it a good idea to shoot/import RAW in iPhoto only? (and skip the JPEG file).
If it's better to shoot/import both RAW and JPEG, how do you guys handle the identical pictures (RAW/JPEG) in iPhoto?
Finally, if i only have RAW in iPhoto, how do i 'export' the RAW picture? If i drag and drop the picture to desktop, RAW is automatically converted to JPEG (which is great in 99% of the times).
Hope to hear some of you guys ideas regarding this subject.

When you import a Raw to iPhoto it automatically creates a jepg preview of the file. Why? Because you cannot do anything with a Raw: you cannot print it, use it a slideshow and so on. However, with this preview you can work with the photo immediately.
Shooting in Raw+Jpeg is a bit pointless as you have this automatic preview anyway.
if i only have RAW in iPhoto, how do i 'export' the RAW picture?
File -> Export and set the Kind to Original
Dragging to the Desktop accesses only the latest version of the photo.
Regards
TD

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Hi everyone,
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What I would like to know is this...as iPhoto has already converted the RAW photos to jpegs, and that is what I am working on in iPhoto (jpegs, NOT RAW), can I simply burn a CD with all of the jpegs that are in iphoto, delete all of those photos from iphoto, and then go through and Delete all of the original RAW images (I already have them backed up on a DVD) and then reimport just the jpegs into iphoto?
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Also, is there a way for me to do this in the future...i.e. use iPhoto to convert the RAWS to jpegs, and only import them...not to import the RAW photos?
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Setup iPhoto to use Photoshop as the editor of choice in iPhoto's General preferences pane. Next, go to iPhoto's Advanced preference pane and check to the box "Use RAW when editing in external editor". Now you don't have to find the RAW file and move it to the desktop to edit. HOWEVER, you will have to save the edited file on the Desktop and import as a new photo.
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Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds

Iphoto 6 and RAW

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Doug,
This is a limitation with the way that iPhoto handles RAW files. When you send the RAW to Photoshop and then save the edited RAW it must create a new file type, such as jpeg, tiff, or some Adobe format. This makes your edit a "Save As" and not a straight "Save." There is no way to have this go automatically back into your iPhoto library. You must do your Save As to another location, like the Desktop, then import into iPhoto as a separate file. (As for all those files already inside your library folder - they are not recognized by the database. You should drag them out of there, and be very careful not to disturb the files that iPhoto does recognize.) There is no way to link the edit back to its original RAW file. This is not true if you edit your file inside iPhoto, but then you miss out on the handy Photoshop RAW editor.
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Anyone notice that iPhoto 6 can send a raw file to an external editor?
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Additionally, iPhoto 6 can be set to use "external" files instead of coping everything into the library. It does make a full size jpeg of raws at import time, so space becomes an issue quickly.
And, oh yea, this is not an opportunity to start yet one more flame apple thread, we've heard it all and it has grow tiring.

This has worked since iPhoto 5 but just a slightly different set of options. You could always for the first edit, open the RAW file in any editor (as RAW). However, and as you have stated, you can't directly save it back to iPhoto. Aperture kind of reversed this a bit by not allowing you to directly open the RAW in an external editor.
Sam

IPhoto 6 and raw format

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I use Adobe Photoshop CS6 to edit Raw photos. If you dont have a huge budget try Gimp for Mac OSX. Gimp has many function like Photshop, the free version works well. http://www.gimp.org

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What you have been given is a toy.
I call it a toy because infrequent backups, inadequate training, and an antique unpatched database clearly indicate that your management has not taken this seriously.
It is time for someone to act like a professional and that appears to mean you.
Forget this forum, open an SR at metalink, and follow Oracle's support advice.
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I recently bought a new camera which allows me to shoot in RAW and RAW+JPEG mode. I have at present set it to the latter, partially to be safe, and also for allowing quick image loading when out and about and can quickly upload the JPEG files to my ipad.
But having just purchased Aperture 3, I am really confused over the RAW+Separate import brick's choices.
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I have been reading a book called "Aperture 3 Portable Genius, but to be honest, it has only made things even more confusing!
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"best settings to use" is hard to answer, since it depends what kind of photography you're doing and how you like to work.
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If you import 'both (separate masters)' you'll see both jpeg and raw in AP as 2 separate files which can be edited separately. I've never actually used this option, so I could be wrong about that.
I guess the first thing to decide is which format you most want to work with in Aperture. If you only want to work with RAW in AP, then choose 'RAW files only'. In this scenario the only reason you're shooting raw+jpeg is for the quick upload to iPad.
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Back at base I'll import the raw files only. Even if I was using a higher resolution jpeg I'd still only import raw. For me it's what Aperture is all about, and unlike say... wedding photography, this type of shoot is low volume so there's no advantage in working with jpeg, and many advantages in working with raw.
Actually, I use another import option for pairs: 'matching Raw files only'. This is a huge timesaver. It means that during the shoot we can rate the photos (jpegs) as we go, and I'm only importing the raws that meet that rating. IE I don't have to import the entire shoot and try to remember which lighting set-up (for eg) the director liked best.
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And it is unclear, what will happen, when Aperture or iPhoto will be upgraded to newer versions. Right now you need the latest iPhoto version to be able to upgrade older iPhoto libraries, if you want to open them in Aperture. So probably you will need to upgrade iPhoto as well, if you keep your library an iPhoto library, when both Aperture and iPhoto will be upgraded to Aperture 4 and iPhoto 12.0 or similar. In the long run it will be safer to convert the library to an Aperture library, if you do not want to keep updating iPhoto, but that can wait.
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You will need plenty of space on the drive with the new library. Merging a library into another one will temporarily a lot of working space and may take a long time - several hours for a large library, without visible progress.

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How is the Raw data used in iPhoto? I currently shoot both jpeg and raw and import them both into iPhoto. What do I gain by collecting Raw data?
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You get more parameters for making adjustments to the image. This is not really an iPhoto question but more a general photography one. In rather simple terms here's how a digital camera works:
You expose an image. A lot of data is gathered in by the sensor. But it's just a bug lump of data and not very useful in that form.
In cameras that shoot jpeg that mass of data is interpreted/processed into an actual image, and the image is stored in a jpeg file. (that's a process broadly analogous to developing a film). The decisions that go into making that interpretation are all made by an engineer somewhere, back when the camera was developed.
If you shoot Raw, then what you do is take that mass of data, and rather than working to the decisions made by that engineer, you develop the shot - you run the digital darkroom.
Why would you do this? Take on all this extra work? Well one of three reasons: a: you think you can do a better job than that engineer. b: you just prefer the result you get when you develop yourself or c: you're a hopeless shooter and raw means you have more options to fix the mistakes you made in the camera. (That's why I do it.)
Here endeth the two dollar tour. So, basically, if you're happy with what your camera produces in Jpeg then there's really no need to shoot Raw.
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Hi Jack!
If you're new working with RAW files, your right, it just doesn't make sense. RAW <imho> is a bit overrated. One thing you will need to keep in mind when shooting in RAW, is you will still need to take a well exposed image. What RAW files will allow are CHANGES in all areas of the image v. JPEG which may allow you to ADJUST a few settings in the image. My only suggestion would be to kepp playing around with PSE until you get the hang of it, it is an excellent image editing software. But realize, a well exposed JPEG and RAW file are hard to tell apart...
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I had a folder of RAW files that I imported to iphoto for the purposes of easy viewing and deleting some similar/duplicate images. Once I finished with the images I copied them back to my desktop and iphoto converted all my images to jpeg - so now instead of each one being a 10+MB RAW file they're now all ~1.5MB jpeg.
I didn't do anything other than import the photos then trashed the ones I didn't need then copied the rest of them back to my hard drive.
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Message was edited by: jdhc8

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ok, so i always import from my Canon Rebel XT raw files into iphoto 8. i use iphoto to organize my "negatives" and photoshop to edit. i have never had problems dragging raw files from iphoto into photoshop [in the dock], until recently. the problem is this:
i drag the file into photoshop and it opens as a jpeg.
and i realize that iphoto rotates the portraits and coverts them into jpegs and that to open them in the photoshop camera raw editor i need to convert them to the original raw settings before doing so. it is the same for both portrait and landscape orientation. they both open as jpegs.
i am able to right click on the thumbnail in iphoto and click Show File, and then drag that raw file from the finder into photoshop and have it open as a raw file in the editor, as it should. which should tell me this isn't a photoshop [cs3] problem, no? iphoto has been like this for a while now for me. probably since the last update?
i had an efficient little workflow mojo and now it's a hassle! i hope there is a fix for this. can anyone shed any light?

korpuskrispy:
Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 6 the Saving File preferences should be configured: "On First Save: Save Over Current File". Also I suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always.
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: If you set iPhoto to edit the RAW file with PS then it must be saved to the desktop and imported as a new file. It can't be saved like you would when editing the jpg version with PS.
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Note: There now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard.

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One of the things I've noticed is that the transition into overexposure appears to be handled VERY differently depending on the profile chosen.
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Notably not one of the Adobe-supplied profiles handles this transition smoothly at all, showing some sharp transitions - which helps explain why I had been having such trouble with sky color.
Some examples follow (these have all been converted to sRGB for display via browser). Specifically note the area around the bright blue light in the upper-right.
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The very good 40D "DPP Standard sRGB" profile Vit Novak provided me a couple of days ago, based on his measurements of how Canon DPP handles color:
The in-camera JPEG:
-Noel

That's awesome!
For "normal" exposure levels it exactly matches the other images converted with the profile you developed before, but the hard edge (e.g., seen when the edges of the image are lightened by Vignetting Correction) is gone. Well done!
I tried it on a number of other images and found that the transition from blue sky to whited-out overexposure was indeed noticeably better, with the sky going to cyan slightly less quicky. For example, I have an evening time exposure with the sky transitioning to overexposure. I converted the image once with Adobe Standard and each of your profiles, and put an extreme Curves adjustment layer over the top to more easily see the transition. Note the color, in particular, of the sky transition into overexposure with the three different conversions, your most recent on the bottom.
You really have gotten your head around how these profiles work with Camera raw, and you do damned good work with that knowledge, Vit!
Let's review the features of this profile:
1. It matches the camera color virtually perfectly, which I for one find an excellent starting point for further Camera Raw adjustments.
2. It handles transition into overexposure IMO as well or better than the camera manufacturer's software and hardware.
3. Since you developed it to match the camera manufacturer's sRGB conversions, and THEY don't think channel clipping is acceptable if the user has chosen to convert to sRGB, it has solved the problem with channel clipping that I had seen with all the Adobe profiles when converting directly to sRGB, and has thus made the action I had been using to do a "bend the edges" conversion unnecessary.
There is nothing not to love here!
Vit, I don't know how much work is involved with making such a profile - clearly you've put some serious time into getting where you are, but would you be interested in partnering with me and selling sets of profiles with characteristics like this one to others who would like to get the best possible Camera Raw or Lightroom conversions? If so, let's talk off the forum via eMail.
-Noel

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