Is it possible to boot a Mac Pro 1.1 in 64 bit?

I have an old Mac Pro 1.1 (2006/7) running 10.6.8. Is it possible for me to boot it in 64 bit mode?
Is there any hardware/firmware I can purchase in order to make it happen?
If not, will it make sense for me to use applications that have 64 bit access? (Im using Logic Pro in 64 bit mode), will they utilize more than 4 Gigs of RAM? (I have 11 G of RAM installed)?
Thanks for any help you can shed in this issue!

No. That machine only has a 32-bit kernel.
Mac OS X v10.6: Macs that use the 64-bit kernel
In terminal type,
uname -a
If the output shows RELEASE_i386 you have a 32-bit kernel and cannot boot in 64-bit mode.

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