Is source version control inluded already?

I've read posts where some guys announced including source version control into SQL Developer. Is it done already?
TIA,
kazelot

We have not yet included this in SQL Developer, but our intention is to do this in our next major release. While we do not yet have a detailed Statement of Direction available, there is a document you can review on OTN.
<p>SQL Developer does offer the ability to add external programs and some users are using this to connect to their source code control systems.
<p>Sue

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