Is this how dual boot works in Lenovo laptops?
I have a Z580 and I've succesfully installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS alongside Windows 8. Earlier I lost my paritions during Ubuntu install and so I had to do a clean install of Windows using the MSDN version and by using the product key retrieved using RWEverything tool.
Here are my questions:
When I boot through Ubuntu there is a pause for almost 30 seconds with a blank screen before the Ubuntu startup screen comes up. Is that how it is or is there a way I can fix this?
When I boot Ubuntu boots well, but the Windows boot option doesn't appear in the Grub boot menu. But if I choose Windows boot option in the Boot Menu (by pressing the small button) Windows boots fine. Is this how it works on the Lenovo laptops? It's fine with me and in fact it's more desirable for me so that I can kinda hide Windows which I rarely use. But I'm curious to know if this is how it works and it's not related to the problem described in my first question.
I do not own the same machine, but I can make the following general observations:
Re: the 30 second pause, does that occur before or after the GRUB menu?
A Windows entry can be added to the Boot menu, which is contained in a config text file.
I don't know what you mean by pressing the small button to boot Windows.
My Lenovo laptop dual boots Linux and Windows (but not Ubuntu, and not Windows 8). The total boot time to Linux is around 45-60 seconds on a regular HDD, and 17-30 seconds on SSD, including Grub. Windows is about 45-90 seconds on HDD, 30 or so on SSD, including GRUB selection. That time is from when I press the power button until the desktop is up and the computer is either connected or connecting to Wi-Fi.
Usually, a longer delay with my Lenovo machine is because of having USB drives attached during boot (though I'm not sure why this causes a delay) or because of updates being installed.
There are log files created during boot time that you could research and read if you wanted to know where each chunk of time is going. I think they are under /var/log/boot or something like that.
Hope this helps some, anyway.
-JV474
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Just did a fresh install of archlinux after buying a new computer.
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Windows Boot Manager
identifier {bootmgr}
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
integrityservices Enable
default {current}
resumeobject {2b56acdd-8bbe-11e2-9ba6-b8ca3ad88679}
displayorder {current}
{524cc0d3-8bce-11e2-935f-b8ca3ad88679}
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path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
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isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
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systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {2b56acdd-8bbe-11e2-9ba6-b8ca3ad88679}
nx OptIn
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As I mentioned above, I now have the windows boot menu with Windows 8 (which boots successfully) and Oracle Linux (which gives me the error see below for complete wording**). Is the Real-mode Boot sector wrong? Should it point to the Linux boot partition? Is it a problem with my UEFI disk? I don't think it should be because this version of Oracle Linux supports UEFI and my hardware is UEFI.
Has anyone carried out a similar win8/OL dual boot?
2001
** Complete wording of the Linux boot option in the windows boot manager:
Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. To fix the problem:
1. Insert your Windows installation disk and restart the computer.
2. Choose your language settings, and then click "next".
3. Click "Repair your computer".
If you do not have this disk, contact you system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance
File: \NST\nst_linux.mbr
Status: 0xc000007b
Info: The selected application or operating system couldn’t be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors.
Edited by: 2001 on Apr 1, 2013 4:27 PM
Edited by: 2001 on Apr 17, 2013 5:17 PMHi,
Here are my responses:
*[asmirnov]* Could you please confirm, I just want to see if I got it right the first time -
*[2001]* I'm happy to share my progress
Q1)
*[asmirnov]* You did create a partition (where you would install Linux) from Win8, correct?
*[2001]* Yes. I used diskmgmt.msc to create a separate partition. I didn't format the partition because the Linux install doesn't want that, it creates and formats the partitions in the unallocated partition
Q2)
*[asmirnov]* You use GRUB (not GRUB2)?
*[2001]* I'm not sure where you were asking about, so I hope my answer here covers all possibilities you may have meant.
I was using the windows 8 boot. I wanted to chain load to the boot loader in the Linux Partition. It is interesting what the Linux install did with my partition, it created 2 partitions in the unformatted partition. 1 was a bootable partition and the other was the Linux partition. The details were:
2 sda’s (a boot / ext4 and a VolGroup (vg_linuxlocalhost)/ physical volume (LVM) ). In the VolGroup it created 3 lv’s, lv_root, lv_home and lv_swap. I understand that this is all normal.
I followed the documentation note which said "To configure the Red Hat Enterprise Linux boot loader to chain load from a different boot loader, you must specify the boot drive manually. If you chose any of the automatic partitioning options, you must now select the Review and modify partitioning layout option before you click Next or you cannot specify the correct boot drive"
So there was also the note in the documentation that said "Note that the version of GRUB in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 is an old and stable version now known as "GRUB Legacy" since upstream development moved to GRUB 2.3 Red Hat remains committed to maintaining the version of GRUB that we ship with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6, just as we do with all packages that we ship." I didn't install any bootloaders manually (either the windows 8 OOTB default that came with my machine or the Linux one), I just took the defaults. I'm wasn't sure how to access the Linux partitions once it is installed, so I can't confirm it was the legacy GRUB in the Linux boot partition, but I believe this note is saying that it OL6 does use the legacy grub. I believe GRUB Legacy is version .97.
Q3)
*[asmirnov]* Which version of Linux exactly did you use, was that Oracle Linux or you used one from RedHat directly? What is the kernal version?
*[2001]* I used "OracleLinux-R6-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso.sha1sum" from the mirror site http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/oraclelinux/OL6/U3/x86_64/. According to the release notes at: https://oss.oracle.com/ol6/docs/RELEASE-NOTES-U3-en.html the kernel is
- Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel Release 2 [kernel-uek-2.6.39-200.24.1.el6uek]. Installed and booted by default
- Red Hat compatible Kernel [kernel-2.6.32-279.el6]. Installed by default
Note: By default, both the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel and the Red Hat Compatible Kernel for the specific architecture (i386 or x86_64) are installed, and the system boots the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by default. If needed, /etc/grub.conf and /etc/sysconfig/kernel can be modified to make the system boot with the Red Hat Compatible Kernel by default.
Regarding your follow-up point that "Microsoft blocks 3rd party chainloaders from the BCD menu for UEFI machines. We are researching workarounds, none have presented themselves as of yet.", I'm not sure it actually blocks it, but it certainly isn't a straight forward process.
I have actually abandoned my attempt to get the dual boot working. It is a real shame because I wanted to do it for my own satisfaction.
I am now using Oracle Virtual Box as suggested by others, include Dude earlier in this thread. This has given me confidence that I was doing all the right things because the install worked first time without any problems. The virtualization is much simpler and I have had no problems so far.
Fusion
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How do I approach this? Is there some sort of software that will allow me to manipulate the drives and then allow me to painlessly install Windows without the hassle I encountered while using Boot Camp Assistant.
My best bet is to backup all the files I have in my other 3 partitions and then delete them so that I can give way to installing a new partition fit for Windows. I'm still adamant on experimenting because of the dangers I might encounter, say for example I might mess up my Master Boot Record and end up in frustration.
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Leaving the EFI and the Recovery HD partition are fine.
Open Terminal and type diskutil list then hit the enter key. Post the output from that command. -
I successfully removed Grub and got syslinux installed. I "can" get both Arch and Win7 to boot, BUT Win7 always initially starts up in Recovery mode, so I cancel, reboot and it starts right up. However, now in order to boot arch, I have to run a live Cd to change the boot flags back to the proper partition because windows has stolen the boot flag. Thoughts?
71GA wrote:
LinuxChick wrote:I successfully removed Grub and got syslinux installed. I "can" get both Arch and Win7 to boot
How did you make dual boot work using syslinux? In this topic:"https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168819" guys are telling me right now me that it can't be done.
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@71GA: We already gave you LinuxChick's solution in your original thread (specifically ssyslinux.cfg was generated correctly and I had to correct the changes that you made to a correct file). The problem is that you've done something completely unrelated to the bootloader, so LinuxChick's solution won't work for you.
@LinuxChick: Could you please mark your thread [Solved]?
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I'm trying to get a dual-boot working with XP and Arch. I've tried to do this a few times but it's always resulted in GRUB not loading and Windows XP starting up anyway. I have a 250GB HDD and 2GB RAM. My plan is:
sda - /boot 100MB
sda1 - XP 50GB
sda2 - NTFS Storage 80GB
sda3 - / 20GB
sda4 - /swap 1512MB
sda5 - /home rest of HDD
Is this plan okay? The reason that /boot is at the start is because of GRUB not loading before. Also, what is the best way to get the install to work (when preparing the hard drive)?If Windows XP starts when you start the computer it means GRUB isn't installed on the MBR. You can do this several ways. The internet (and the forum) is full of advice on how to do this. My advice would be to install WinXP first (on the first partition, obviously, because that's how Microsoft wants it) and Arch second. That way the Arch installer will deal with GRUB lastly.
Oh, and why 50 GB for XP if you plan oh having an 80 GB drive D: ? Here's a thought...
▪ sda1: NTFS 10 GB (and I'm being generous since I'm thinking using TinyXP you can probably get away with 3 GB, Program FIles, pagefile and temp folders on D: and maybe even 2 GB but it's streching it. Maybe MicroXP)
▪ sda2: ext4 10 GB (again, I'm being generous since you can get away with much less if you keep packages to a minimum)
▪ sda3: 100 GB NTFS (you'll need a drive D: when it's time to reinstall Windows, and trust me, that time will come)
▪ sda4: rest of the HDD as ext4. Or better yet format it as ext3 with inode 128, so you can load it in WinXP through Ext2Fsd, even as Read-Only if you wish). This partition will probably be used for storage so it's ok if it's not ext4 or btrfs... ext3 is a fine, mature filesystem. Reliable.
There are only 4 in my scheme and you can make them all Primary partitions
(sda1-2-3-4 instad of sda1-5-6-7 or some shit like that).
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Dual booted Grub-settings on an encrypted arch-install
So I recently installed arch on my SATA drive (which is /dev/sda). I encrypted it with the encryption scheme in the standard installer and everything (to my knownledge) is working fine. Now here's the kicker, I want to dual boot Windows 7. I have already installed it on an old IDE drive. However there's a problem, due to how my motherboard recognized the harddrives the Windows 7 drive becomes /dev/sda and arch becomes /dev/sdb. So I set up my BIOS to boot from the SATA drive, and grub loaded as it should, but it failed when trying to boot Arch.
I tried just changing to /dev/sdb for the root drive in grub, and I also tried using map (hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0). Neither worked.
What grub-settings do I need to have this dual-boot work smoothly?
- Knutsj87 wrote:Maybe you should try mapping sd1 to sd0 instead of the hd* variants?
This is a setting for GRUB, and from what information I can gather it doesn't seem to work that way.
Anyone else know anything? -
Dual boot Windows 7 (64) and Arch Linux (64) problems
Hello:
I am new to Arch Linux and just finished installing the 64bit on my laptop. It had a prebuilt Windows 7 (64) installed which I kept but split the hdd from 160Gb to 80Gb and 80Gb. I installed Arch there and set 4 partitions, all of them as Logical - a 64 MB ext2 /boot partition; a 512 MB swap partition; a 15 GB root partition; and the rest as my /home partition. My partitions look like this:
Disk Drive: /dev/sda
Size: 160041885696 bytes, 160.0 GB
Heads: 255 Sectors per Track: 63 Cylinders: 19457
Name Flags Part Type FS Type [Label] Size (MB)
sda1 Primary Unknown (27) 12889.02
sda2 Boot Primary NTFS 106.93
sda3 Primary NTFS [] 73915.11*
sda5 Logical Linux ext2 65.81*
sda6 Logical Linux 509.97*
sda7 Logical Linux ext2 15002.92*
sda8 Logical Linux ext2 57549.55*
The install was succesful(this was running from the core install cd) and I installed GRUB to my /boot but when I restarted it loaded Windows 7. I have used Knoppix USB disc to boot and see my Arch Linux install files and edited the /boot/gur/menu.lst file.
In Windows I installed EasyBCD 1.7.2 and tried to get NeoGrub bootloader working as a dual boot. I tried getting rid of the boot flag for Windows with cfdisk and setting it to my (Logical) sda5. That did not work. So far the only way I have booted into my Arch Linux install has been by going to the Live CD, choosing "Boot from Existing Linux Install" and editing the command files there.
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda3 ro
initrd /kernel26.img
My goal is to get a dual boot working for Windows 7 and Arch Linux 64 and continue installing the Xorg and KDE to Arch. I just don't know what the problem is here. I don't mind reinstalling Arch if something went wrong, but I would like to keep my Windows running in order and add Arch on.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.I ran the LiveCD and chose "Install to MBR hd0". I ended up with this:
setup hd(0,1)
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists.....yes
Checking if "/boot/grub/iso9660_stage1_5" exists.....yes
Running "embed /boot/grub/iso9660_stage1_5 (hd0,1)".....failed(this is not fatal)
Running "embed /boot/grub/iso9660_stage1_5 (hd16)".....failed(this is not fatal)
Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0,1) /boot/grub/stage2 p (hd0,1) boot/grub/menu.lst".....failed
Error 31: File is not sector aligned
My entry for Windows into the menu.lst looks like this:
# (0) Arch Linux x64
title Arch Linux x64
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/3841273c-d91e-41d6-9dbf-716a15d03a01 ro
initrd /kernel26.img
# (1) Arch Linux x64
title Arch Linux x64 Fallback
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/3841273c-d91e-41d6-9dbf-716a15d03a01 ro
initrd /kernel26-fallback.img
# (2) Windows 7
title Windows 7
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
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