ISE 1.2: Airspace ACL vs DACL
Can someone please shed some light here:
I have a 5508 WLC & ISE 1.2. I configured Guest Access through the use of a Sponsor Portal, and got it working.
I now want to restrict my Guest users to access the internet only and not the rest of my network.
Do I do that using a Airspace ACL & an Access List on my WLC or a DACL on my ISE box.
I'm not sure how to block the users from accessing my internal network, since I have tried both, but neither work.
Any advice please.
In ISE, dACLs are only applicable to switches. They are ineffective with wireless connections.
An Airespace ACL is the way to go and it looks like you got it working.
The ACL should be:
permit Inbound for any to the ISE IPs and permit outbound from ISE to any.
deny any to 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12, and 192.168.0.0/16 inbound (or just to your internal IP space)
permit any to any in any direction
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Thanks for the response but it's wrong. Cisco supports stacked ports in 1.2 for wired users. They carried over 1.1documentation to 1.2 and never updated it. We have it in writing from Cisco tac.
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Does ISE support IPv6 in its dynamic ACLs? We are a dual stack IPv6 site at present. We could leave the guest LAN on an IPv4 only site for the moment, but we intend to go forward and support IPv6 fully. If we wanted to apply DACLs to a port that had a Dual Stack arrangement, is that possible from ISE?
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i thought it will arrive in version 1.2
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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/ps5712/ps11637/ps11195/qa_c67-658591.html
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I was wondering if anyone can point me to the right direction. I was setting up BYOD access with ISE and Legacy controllers as follows:
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OK Not a downlodable ACLs in WLC, I want know is ISE give a named ACLs to WLC and ACLs works in
WLC for Wireless Client. am i clear?
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Hi Team!!
in ISE , Can a static acl be applied dynamically to a switch interface, i.e. if a port on a switch, which is allocated to a printer, becomes active but no certificate is received on the ISE, then the ISE will push an ACL to the switch port to only allow printer traffic. This could get around MAC authentication bypass possibly.
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You can definitely accomplish this by:
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2. Configure ISE for mab and dot1x
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5. Test :)
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ISE: support for IPv6 DACL's
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Can I change VLAN as per user/device once they hit the AP? I am always talking about remote locations?Tarik,
First thanks for your prompt reply, I haven't deployed it yet but here is what I my plans are:
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Other H REAP Limitations
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Cisco ISE - CWA AD Authentication
Hello,
I'm using a Cisco ISE on 1.3 and have a CWA portal setup for AD Auth. When a user connects to a particular SSID (from a WLC) that is setup for mac filtering, it redirects to a CWA via the Auth Policy. the CWA is disabled, they login, the device registers, etc.. and all is well. The next policy checks to see if the device is registered, and if so, bypasses the Auth. Which also works. However, any AD account can authenticate against the CWA, not the particular AD account I want. I don't know where to put the Auth Policy or what it looks like. Any help would be appreciated. I've tried a few combinations to no avail.
Below are my current Auth Policies, as I mention above. They work, but the CWA validates any AD credential, not the group I want. Should a NetworkAccess:UseCase=GuestFlow go between the 2 policies perhaps?Hi Marc, what I meant by "desired_permissions" is what your environment/situation calls for. With that being said, returning back only "access_accept" with your "authorization profile" would work but at the same time it will give the authorized users/devices full access. So unless you have an ACL to Firewall off the guest users, you would need to return some additional attributes when trying to restrict/limit guest users/devices.
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4. Permit everything else - Needed for general internet browsing
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ISE guest access - can't match on Optional Data fields
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I need to have 2 different types of guest users that will get different level of access with DACL / Airspace ACL
I thought that best way to do that is simply matching one of optional data fields you can setup in Sponsor Portal
Unfortunately as soon as I reference Optional Data field in Authorization rule I get no match. Can't also match on username which would not help anyway.
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This is affecting both wireless and wired.
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ISE wireless CPP with redirect exclusions, possible?
Hi all, a little bit of a tricky situation here. I've got a wireless network and ISE 1.1.1. The wireless is mixed 7.0 and 7.3 code.
On an ISE wired installation it's easy to have an authorization rule that URL redirects users to the client provisioning portal *BUT* to have a redirect ACL on the switch with deny statements that excludes specific websites from the redirection. This is done so users can click on remediation links from the NAC Agent and get to websites to download anti-virus, sig updates, windows updates, etc... but all other web attempts get redirected to the CPP.
All fine and it works perfectly on the wired network. HOWEVER, I can't seem to find a similar way to do this on the wireless network. While you can create a posture redirection policy to send them to the CPP with an ACL, that ACL seems to only permit or deny traffic per a standard ACL. Meaning a user gets on but any attempt to go anywhere in a browser redirects to the CPP. This makes it impossible to get to the remediation pages.
Is there any way to accomplish what I'm trying to do here? It seems like it should be a basic function.Sorry I had some personal issues to deal with and just got a chance to follow up on this. Firs of all, good job on figuring it out and posting the findings back here! (+5) from me for that!
To answer your questions:
#1. You are 100% about the logic on the WLC ACLs vs Switch ACLs. On switches "deny" means "don't redirect" the traffic, thus permit it on the network. On the WLCs "deny" means "redirect" the traffic, hence don't allow it on the network. I am not sure why Cisco did this but different BUs, different teams, etc
#2. You are also correct on this one. Your vWLC and ISE are working as expected. While switches support dACLs, WLCs only support "named ACL." As a result, when referencing ACLs on ISE for wireless, that ACL has to exist on the WLC and it MUST BE NAMED THE SAME or it won't work.
Hope this helps. If you issues are resolved please mark the thread as "answered"
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I was able to configure the CWA on the switch and Cisco ISE. It is working as expected. I followed the guide on the link bellow.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11640/products_configuration_example09186a0080ba6514.shtml
I only have one question. I try to understand why ACL must be configured on the port on the switch. Guide uses ACL with name webauth which permit all traffic. If port is authorized it receives dACL from ISE, otherwise port is in unauthorize state and denies all traffic.
interface GigabitEthernet1/0/12
description ISE1 - dot1x clients - UCS Eth0
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authentication port-control auto
mab
spanning-tree portfast
end
ip access-list extended webauth
permit ip any anyWhy ACL must be configured on the port on the switch
Question:
I only have one question. I try to understand why ACL must be configured on the port on the switch. Guide uses ACL with name webauth which permit all traffic. If port is authorized it receives dACL from ISE, otherwise port is in unauthorize state and denies all traffic.
What is Web Authentication?
Web authentication is opposed to local web authentication, which is the usual web authentication on the switch itself. In that system, upon dot1x/mab failure, the switch wills failover to the webauth profile and will redirect client traffic to a web page on the switch.
Role of ACL:
The redirectACL sent back with the central webauth profile determines which traffic (HTT or HTTPS) is redirected to the ISE. The downloadable ACL allows you to define what traffic is allowed. You should typically allow for DNS, HTTP(S), and 8443 and deny the rest. Otherwise, the switch redirects HTTP traffic but allows other protocols.
Port ACLs
Port ACLs are ACLs that are applied to Layer 2 interfaces on a switch. Port ACLs are supported only on physical interfaces and not on EtherChannel interfaces and can be applied only on interfaces in the inbound direction. These access lists are supported:
•Standard IP access lists using source addresses
•Extended IP access lists using source and destination addresses and optional protocol type information
•MAC extended access lists using source and destination MAC addresses and optional protocol type information
The switch examines ACLs associated with all inbound features configured on a given interface and permits or denies packet forwarding based on how the packet matches the entries in the ACL. In this way, ACLs control access to a network or to part of a network. Figure is an example of using port ACLs to control access to a network when all workstations are in the same VLAN. ACLs applied at the Layer 2 input would allow Host A to access the Human Resources network, but prevent Host B from accessing the same network. Port ACLs can only be applied to Layer 2 interfaces in the inbound direction.
Figure 31-1 Using ACLs to Control Traffic to a Network
When you apply a port ACL to a trunk port, the ACL filters traffic on all VLANs present on the trunk port. When you apply a port ACL to a port with voice VLAN, the ACL filters traffic on both data and voice VLANs.
With port ACLs, you can filter IP traffic by using IP access lists and non-IP traffic by using MAC addresses. You can filter both IP and non-IP traffic on the same Layer 2 interface by applying both an IP access list and a MAC access list to the interface.
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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst2960/software/release/12.2_55_se/configuration/guide/swacl.html#wp1715468 -
ISE and CoA 'port bounce' on WLC 7.2
Hi,
Im trying to get a vlan change done with CoA and MAB on a WLC 7.2 but it looks like it doese't disconnect the client, hence no new dhcp request.
Everything is working except 'port bounce'. I can see the new vlan in the controller, if i do a ifconfig /renew on the client it gets the new subnet and everything works as it should. If i remove the endpoint in ISE it swaps the vlan again on the controller, but no port bounce...
Is it possible to do this at all?
Page 244/245 in the Configuration guide - RADISUS NAC -Guidelines and Limitations says:
VLAN select is not supported
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WLC 7.2
Thanks
Message was edited by: Mikael GustafssonHi,
So in general there is no easy solution to do a vlan change for guest users on a wireless?
What Im trying to do is to separate the guest vlan from the rest of the network.
Were the user first get the vlan with the ISE interface in, with ACL for DNS and guest portal. And DHCP proxy from WLC.
After authentication he would get the guest vlan with only DHCP proxy and a default gw at the fw
I did try the CoA DHCP option on the guest portal and it's not a good solution, the user needs interact to accept an applet install , and it's (from what I understand from the UG) only working on windows. (and I didnt get it to work)
Thanks
Message was edited by: Mikael Gustafsson -
I am trying to set my ISE to attempt dot1x before mab. If I set up the switchport to try mab first, then ISE does its job and assigns the proper vlan. However, when I set the port up to do dot1x first, the port reverts to the default vlan 1. I am able to manually assign the proper vlan on the port and ISE does not interfere, but that kind of defeats the purpose. The port is on a 4506 and below is the port config. Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
interface GigabitEthernet5/7
description 1-151
switchport mode access
switchport block unicast
switchport voice vlan 68
ip arp inspection limit rate 60
ip access-group ACL-ALLOW in
authentication event fail action next-method
authentication event server dead action authorize vlan 40
authentication event server dead action authorize voice
authentication event server alive action reinitialize
authentication host-mode multi-auth
authentication open
authentication order mab dot1x
authentication priority dot1x mab
authentication port-control auto
authentication periodic
authentication timer reauthenticate server
authentication timer inactivity 3600
authentication violation restrict
mab
snmp trap mac-notification change added
dot1x pae authenticator
dot1x timeout tx-period 10
spanning-tree portfast
spanning-tree bpduguard enable
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aaa new-model
aaa authentication dot1x default group radius local
aaa authorization network default group radius local
aaa authorization auth-proxy default group radius
aaa accounting delay-start all
aaa accounting auth-proxy default start-stop group radius
aaa accounting dot1x default start-stop group radius
aaa accounting network default start-stop group radius
aaa server radius dynamic-author
client <ISE IP ADDRESS> server-key 7 10471A1C25141B1F0F
aaa session-id common
ip device tracking probe use-svi
ip device tracking
ip admission name Testing_ISE proxy http inactivity-time 10 list ISE_ALLOWED
epm logging
dot1x system-auth-control
spanning-tree mode rapid-pvst
spanning-tree loopguard default
spanning-tree portfast bpduguard default
spanning-tree extend system-id
spanning-tree uplinkfast
spanning-tree backbonefast
spanning-tree vlan 1-1005 priority 8192
port-channel load-balance src-dst-ip
vlan internal allocation policy ascending
interface ran GigabitEthernet X/X
description "Connected to test PC for ISE testing"
switchport access vlan x
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switchport voice vlan x
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authentication event server alive action reinitialize
authentication host-mode multi-auth
authentication open
authentication order dot1x mab
authentication priority dot1x mab
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authentication periodic
authentication timer reauthenticate server
authentication timer inactivity 180
authentication violation protect
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dot1x pae authenticator
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ip http secure-server
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deny udp any any eq bootps
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deny ip any host <ISE IP ADDRESS> log
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permit tcp any any eq 443
deny ip any any log
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permit ip any host <ISE IP ADDRESS>
logging esm config
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snmp-server community public RO
snmp-server community ise RO
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