ISE and AD synchronization

Hi all,
Just wondering if any one would know the answer to this one...
We have ISE linked to AD...all working well, however, when a user is given a certificate, the user won't be able to connect to the (wireless) network due to certificate problems.....after 1/2 hour to an hour, the user will be able to authenticate successfuly....without any futher intervention from IT Support.
Seems like ISE to AD sync issue.....does anyone know how often does the ISE pulls AD for information....?
Thanks in advance.
UUmmmm thinking about this though, ISE should check the User "state" in AD every time the user tries to Authenticate....so could we possibly be talking about an AD replication issue here instead of ISE to AD???

If you check your Authentiction details.  You will probably see no certificate found for the user. There is an issue with distributed AD environments:
In a distributed environment, a delay occurs before any domain  controller has received the certificates and CRLs through Active  Directory replication. The delay will vary depending on the Active  Directory environment configuration.
So I'd ask the AD guys, what replication type and schedule are they running? This can be troubleshot watching the Published Certificates tab of the user record.  Open and close the record while enrolling and after to see when it shows up.
What you should see is something like this in ISE record details, Steps section:
12811  Extracted TLS Certificate message containing client certificate
12812  Extracted TLS ClientKeyExchange message
12813  Extracted TLS CertificateVerify message
12804  Extracted TLS Finished message
12801  Prepared TLS ChangeCipherSpec message
12802  Prepared TLS Finished message
12816  TLS handshake succeeded
12509  EAP-TLS full handshake finished successfully
12505  Prepared EAP-Request with another EAP-TLS challenge
11006  Returned RADIUS Access-Challenge
11001  Received RADIUS Access-Request
11018  RADIUS is re-using an existing session
12504  Extracted EAP-Response containing EAP-TLS challenge-response
Evaluating Identity Policy
15048  Queried PIP
15048  Queried PIP
15004  Matched rule
22037  Authentication Passed
12506  EAP-TLS authentication succeeded
11503  Prepared EAP-Success
As far as your question:
does anyone know how often does the ISE pulls AD for information....?
It only "Pulls" information when you populate the AD dictionary (Groups and/or User attributes) in External Identities.
As far as how often if performs a lookup. It performs a lookup for every authentication as required and every processing of an Authorization Policy rule that requires a reference to that specifc rule. (think of multiple situations for processing rules which in turn would result in CoA processings for the session)
So your comment:
UUmmmm thinking about this though, ISE should check the User "state" in  AD every time the user tries to Authenticate....so could we possibly be  talking about an AD replication issue here instead of ISE to AD???
good troubleshooting /thinking!
I hope you find this answer useful, if it was satisfactory  for you, please mark the question as Answered.
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-James

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    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: RADIUS:   22 F8 CF 1C 61 F3 F9 42 01 E4 36 77 9C 9B CC 56            [ "aB6wV]
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    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: RADIUS:   Cisco AVpair       [1]   35  "subscriber:command=reauthenticate"
    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  43
    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: RADIUS:   Cisco AVpair       [1]   37  "subscriber:reauthenticate-type=last"
    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  49
    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: RADIUS:   Cisco AVpair       [1]   43  "audit-session-id=0aea2001530f2e1e000003c6"
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    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: 92FB87EC 0 00000081 formatted-clid(37) 12 40f308c3c53d
    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: 92FB8820 0 00000001 Event-Timestamp(445) 4 1393503547(530F2D3B)
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    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: 92FB84A0 0 00000001 nas-ip-address(600) 4 10.232.127.11
    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: 92FB87EC 0 00000081 formatted-clid(37) 12 40f308c3c53d
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    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: 92FB88BC 0 00000081 ssg-command-code(490) 1 32
    Feb 27 12:19:08.444: 92FB88F0 0 00000002 error-cause(272) 4 Session Context Not Found
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    https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCul83594
    https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCun38344
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