J1IH OR J1IS
HI
user has wrongly charged 8% bed instead of 14% bed
now i want to created another excise invoice for remaining 4% bed.
whether i need to do it in J1IS OR J1IH
Pl suggest
HI,
thx for replyin
1. But when we create excise invoice J1IIN all posting will be done to
Payable Accounts
Modvat Suspense/Excise Duty Payable/Edu Cess Payable A//ED Sec.Higher Ecess
But IN J1IH POsting are going to rg23A /C ETC ACCOUNTS
But it's a sales made to customer
in such a case what is relevance of J!IS tcode
Pl suggest.
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Difference in between J1IH and J1IS
Dear Gurus,
I know that J1IH is used JV posting for excise invoices.
And for J1IS we create the excise invoice and release account posting in J1IV.
I want to know what is the basic difference in between J1IH and J1IS, though in both cases we capture and post the excises. Please suggest with some couples of examples.
Regards,
ShyamHi,
J1IH is used to post the Excise JV.
Use: - You use these functions if you need to make an adjustment posting to any of your CENVAT accounts. You can make adjustment postings to account for:
- Scrap
- Materials that you have not used in production
- Additional excise paid by vendors
- Money that you have transferred to your personal ledger account
- Other transactions
- You can also use this function to cancel excise invoices -out going excise invoices.
J1IS is used to create the excise invoice for other movements like Subcontracting & Stock transfer order.
Can i use J1IH for canceling vendor excise invoice, the one I captured in J1IEX
You can refer below link more detail,
[J1IH & J1IS|J1IH and J1IS]
Edited by: tej yadav on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM -
Hello
Pls tell me the difference between J1IH AND J1IS. In which case i sould these tcodes.
Can i use J1IH for canceling vendor excise invoice, the one I captured in J1IEX? pls suggest.hi,
J1IH:Make a CENVAT adjustment posting
You use these functions if you need to make an adjustment posting to any of your CENVAT accounts. You can make adjustment postings to account for:
Scrap
Materials that you have not used in production
Additional excise paid by vendors
Money that you have transferred to your personal ledger account
Other transactions
You can also use this function to cancel excise invoices.
J1IS:Process an excise invoice (outgoing) for other movements
In the standard procedure for creating outgoing excise invoices ,the excise invoice is created with reference to a delivery note or an invoice. The system also allows you to create an excise invoice with reference to various other documents, as follows:
· Goods issue documents (for example, transfer postings)
· Vendor excise invoices (for when you return faulty goods to a vendor, for example)
· Factory excise invoice (for sales returns)
In addition, you can create an excise invoice without reference to any document at all.
Regards
Priyanka.P
AWARD IF HELPFULL -
plz tell me what is function of j1ih and j1is
hi,
J1iH is for excise JV
J1is is for raising the excise invoice with ref to material document -
Not able to cancel the Excise invoice for STO process
Hi All,
In STO process, we need to cancel the excise invoice due to some business requirement. When we tried to do the same in J1IH, it is not allowing us to do the same with the error "No item information transferred into Accounting". Tried the same through J1IS with the internal Doc No. Here the error is document is complete.
Please guide how to cancel the same.Hi,
STO has been created either through MM route or through SD-MM route.
In MM route, the process is as below,
You create PO, followed by MB1B (Transfer posting) , then followed by J1IS (Excise Invoice).
In SD-MM route the process is as below,
You create PO, followed by VL10B , then VF01, then followed by J1IIN (Excise Invoice from Factory).
Normally, when you create Excise Invoice through J1IIN, it is automatically released to Accounting.
In your case, I feel it has not yet been released to accounting and I hope, Excise Invoice has been created through J1IS.
In MM route, you need to release the Excise doc to Accounting.
In that case, you need to go for J1IV and release the same to accounting.
Find out the Internal document number from the Excise Invoice and with the reference of this Internal document number release it to Accounting through t.code J1IV.
Now, once it is released to accounting, you should be able to cancel it through J1IH or J1IS.
Please let me know if any further problem you are facing.
Regards
Pradyumna -
How to Reduce BED Payable amount
Dear All,,
Kindly tel how to reduce BED Payble amount.
But I tried in J1IH AND J1IS but i am not able to reduce BED Paybale amount.And i passed Jv for that Gl account it only decrease Gl balance but not Decrease J2IUN balance.
Kindly suggest me how to come out of this
Thanks and Regards
Girish.Dear,
In J2IU you have to utilize BED payable against the BED recoverable. Then net amount is paid in following steps,
Step 1. FB50, create document for payment of excise duty.
Step 2. Create TR6 challan through J1IH using above generated document number.
Regards,
Chintan Joshi. -
Hi,
scenario is: i have sold 10 nos excisable finished product from excisable plant to our customer.(OR-LF-F2-J1IIN) Relevent registar RG1 updated ,extraction done. After two months , customer returns 2nos back to plant.Return OR-Return LF- after that what do i have to do to reverse cenvat entries from excise point of view.
a. J1IH or J1IS ?
b. If its J1IS what is ref document type to be used?in which register will it get updated ?
c. If its J1IH which option we need to take ( other adjustment,additional excise ..etc..) and which registers to choose ( RG23A,RG23C, PLA,Fortnightly payment ) as Finished goods is getting returned
kindly advise pls...
thanks
-UKDear Umesh,
One of my Reply is already being referred in previous Post, i.e.
[Excise Return|Excise Returns;
However, Other inputs:
To your Point:
which registers to choose ( RG23A,RG23C, PLA,Fortnightly payment )
With J1IH, entry gets created in RG23A Part2. A/C Doc. is generated and updated in the table: J_1Ipart2
Another point is
c. If its J1IH which option we need to take ( other adjustment,additional excise ..etc..)
MORE - ADDITION ADJ
LESS - OTHER ADJ
Best Regards,
Amit
Note:
J1IS - Process an excise invoice (outgoing) for other movements
Whereas,
J1IH - Make a CENVAT adjustment posting -
FI/CO interface :Update call without successfull check
Hi everyone ,
Please help on this issue ,the issue is when we are trying create JV (J1IH) and J1IS and try to save it
we are getting error message as
" FI/CO interface :Update call without successfull check"
Regards
PDHi,
Please check if this links helps you.This has helped us earlier.
FI/CO interface: Update call without successful check Message No.RW100
Let us know.
Regards,
SB -
Hello Sap Guru's,
Please tell me what does Excise JV means,what is its use,when we create it,what is the T-code used for creating it.
I am not very sure that whether it is created using the transaction code : J1IH or J1IS.
Please help me............
From
ShikhaHi,
J1IS - Excise Invoice for Other Movements
You use this transaction to create Outgoing Excise Invoice for Vendor Return using ref. doc. type "MATD" (Material Doc - 122 Movement Type).
And Print the same in J1IV
CENVAT Adjustment Postings (J1IH u2013 Excise JV)
Use: - You use these functions if you need to make an adjustment posting to any of your CENVAT accounts. You can make adjustment postings to account for:
u2022Scrap
u2022 Materials that you have not used in production
u2022 Additional excise paid by vendors
u2022 Money that you have transferred to your personal ledger account
u2022 Other transactions
You can also use this function to cancel excise invoices.
Features: - Each of the different types of adjustment postings are documented separately. However, they all work on the same principle, as follows.
Reference Document: - On the initial screen of the transaction, you specify the reference document, that is, the document which the adjustment posting is to refer to u2013 either an internal document, such as a material document or a subcontracting challan u2013 or an external document, such as an incoming excise invoice
You also specify which registers are affected by the posting. In many cases, the adjustment will have to be remitted to the authorities on a fortnightly basis. The adjustment will then be included when you run the Remittance of Excise Duty Fortnightly report. If the adjustment has to be remitted immediately, you specify which register is affected.
Excise Details: - When you proceed to the detail screen, the system automatically shows the line items from the reference document, if it is an internal document. You specify how much excise duty is to be adjusted and which CENVAT accounts the adjustment posting is to be made to.
When you edit the excise details, there are a number of functions that are available, depending on the type of adjustment posting:
u2022 Assigning excise invoice to line items
u2022 Specifying which G/L accounts are to be adjusted
u2022 Displaying balances of CENVAT accounts
When you save your changes, the system creates an accounting document to make the appropriate postings.
1. Making Adjustment Postings for Scrap
Use: - You follow this procedure if you have scrapped a material and want to reverse the excise duty debited to your CENVAT account.
Procedure: -
1. J1IH - Excise JV ? Create ? Matl write-off.
2. Enter data as required, including:
u2022 Document number (This Document is of Movement Type u2013 551 i.e. GI for Scrap)
Enter the number of the document that you used to scrap the material.
u2022 CENVAT account selection group box
Specify which account is affected by the adjustment posting is for. If the posting does not have to be remitted immediately, select Fortnightly payment.
3. Click on u201CEnteru201D button.
The system displays the information from the material document.
4. Adjust the posting date as necessary.
5. Adjust the excise duty for each line item either:
u2022 Manually
u2022 By assigning the line item to an excise invoice
6. Specify which G/L accounts are to be posted to.
Here you can change Debit A/c as per your requirement.
7. Save the adjustment posting.
System will post Excise JV Document, Accounting Document Part2 Serial No.
2. Making Adjustment Postings for Materials Not Used in Production
Use: - You follow this procedure if you have not used a material in the production process and want to reverse the excise duty debited to your CENVAT account.
Procedure: -
1. J1IH ? Excise JV ? Create ? Matl non-prod.
2. Enter data as required, including:
u2022 Document number
Enter the number of the material document that the adjustment posting is to refer to.
u2022 CENVAT account selection group box
Specify which account is affected by the adjustment posting is for. If the posting does not have to be remitted immediately, select Fortnightly payment.
3. Click on u201CEnteru201D button.
The system displays the information from the material document.
4. Adjust the posting date as necessary.
5. Adjust the excise duty for each line item either:
u2022 Manually
u2022 By assigning the line item to an excise invoice
6. Specify which G/L accounts are to be posted to.
Here you can change Debit A/c as per your requirement.
7. Save the adjustment posting.
Excise JV Document, Accounting Document with Part2 Serial No has been successfully created
3. Making Adjustment Postings for Additional Excise Paid by Vendors
Use: - You follow this procedure if a vendor has increased the amount of excise duty that it originally charged you and you want to debit the difference to your CENVAT account.
Procedure: -
1. J1IH ? Excise JV ? Additional excise.
2. Enter data as required.
In the Document number field, enter then number of the document sent to you by the vendor.
3. Click on u201CEnteru201D button.
4. Adjust the posting date as necessary and Enter Vendor Name.
5. Enter the amount of excise duty in either of the following ways:
u2022 To enter line items for different materials and the excise duty accordingly, choose u201CDetailsu201D button and enter the line items in the table.
Here Enter Material code, quantity as per excise invoice, reference document (i.e. GRN Document), batch no., BED and Ed Cess Amount to be posted.
u2022 To enter the excise duty only, choose u201CHeaderu201D button and enter the excise duty in the totals fields at the foot of the screen.
6. If the duty qualifies as countervailing duty (CVD):
a. Select CVD applicable.
b. Enter the CVD amount in the BED amount field.
7. Specify which G/L accounts are to be posted to.
8. Save the adjustment posting.
System will post Excise JV Document; Accounting Document with Part2 Serial No has been successfully created.
4. Making Adjustment Postings for Money Transferred to PLA
Use: - You follow this procedure to make an adjustment posting when you transfer money to your personal ledger account (PLA).
Prerequisites: - You have already transferred the money to your PLA at the bank, using a TR6 challan, and have posted the corresponding accounting document.
Procedure: -
1. J1IH ? Excise JV ? TR6 challan.
2. Enter data as required, including the document number.
You can enter either the challan number OR the number of the accounting document (This document is to be first created through T. Code u2013 FB50. In this Document Debit PLA on Hold A/c and Credit Bank A/c with the Amount to be transferred in PLA CENVAT Accounts)
3. Click on u201CEnteru201D button.
If you entered the accounting document number, the system displays the information from it.
4. Enter the amounts against the accounts that you require.
5. Save the adjustment posting.
6. System will post Excise JV Document; Accounting Document with Part2 Serial No has been successfully created.
5. Canceling Excise Invoices
Use: - You follow this procedure in order to cancel an outgoing excise invoice. It reverses any excise duty accounted for.
Procedure: -
1. J1IH ? Excise JV ? Cancel exc. inv.
2. Enter the number, year, and series group of the excise invoice that you want to cancel.
A dialog box appears.
3. Choose Yes.
4. Before posting the document check the Accounting document going to be generated.
Here click on u201CDetermine G/L Accountsu201D button.
5. Save the adjustment posting.
System will post Excise JV Document; Accounting Document with Part2 Serial No has been successfully created.
6. Making Adjustment Postings for Other Transactions
Use: - You follow this procedure if you want to make an adjustment posting that does not fall into any of the other categories of adjustment offered by this function. You can only use an external document as your reference document.
Procedure: -
1. J1IH ? Excise JV ? Other adj.
2. Enter data as required, including:
u2022 Document number
Enter the number of the external document that you want to refer to.
u2022 CENVAT account selection group box
Specify which account is affected by the adjustment posting is for. If the posting does not have to be remitted immediately, select Fortnightly payment.
3. Click on u201CEnteru201D button.
The system displays the information from the material document.
4. Adjust the posting date as necessary and enter Vendor code as per requirement.
5. Enter the amount of excise duty in either of the following ways:
u2022 To enter line items for different materials and the excise duty accordingly, choose u201CDetailsu201D button and enter the line items in the table.
Here fill details like Material Code, Quantity as per Excise Invoice, Batch No, Reference (i.e. GRN Document), BED and Ed Cess Amount manually.
If you want system to propose the BED and Ed Cess Amount, Click on u201CGet Excise Invoiceu201D button and select the proper Excise Invoice from which the proportionate amount is to be copied.
Select the u201CExcise Invoiceu201D and click on u201CContinueu201D button.
It will copy BED and Ed Cess and SECess amount as per the quantity mentioned here. It will be proposed in proportion of selected Excise Invoice quantity and value.
u2022 To enter the excise duty only, choose u201CHeaderu201D button and enter the excise duty in the totals fields at the foot of the screen.
6. Specify which G/L accounts are to be posted to.
7. Save the adjustment posting.
System will post Excise JV Document; Accounting Document with Part2 Serial No has been successfully created.
TIPS to simplify Excise JV transactions: - (J1IH)
1. Assigning Excise Invoices to Line Items
Use: - When you make an adjustment posting, you follow this procedure if you want to specify the original excise invoice associated with a line item.
Procedure: -
1. Select the line item that you want and choose Get excise invoice.
The system displays a list of all the excise invoices that you have posted from this vendor for this particular material.
2. Select the excise invoice that you want and click on u201CEnteru201D button.
The system:
u2022 Enters the excise invoice document number in the Ref. doc. field (Reference document).
u2022 Calculates how much of the excise duty from the excise invoice should be apportioned to the line item and enters it in the excise duty fields.
If you then overwrite these amounts, you should also overwrite the reference document number with an explanatory text, since there is no point in maintaining the link to the reference document anymore.
For e.g. you have a line item with ten plates of glass that you have broken and are to be scrapped. You have three excise invoices from the same vendor to choose from. You pick one for 20 plates of glass with BED at INR 200. The system automatically apportions INR 100 to the line item that is to be reversed.
2. Specifying Which CENVAT Accounts to Adjust
Use: - When you make an adjustment posting, you have to specify which CENVAT accounts are to be adjusted.
Procedure: -
1. Choose Determine G/L accounts.
A dialog box appears that shows how much will be posted to which G/L accounts. The accounts that are displayed depend on the excise group and the CENVAT account that you entered on the selection screen.
2. Add another account, if you need to, and adjust the other postings so that the credits and debits match.
3. Enter a business area and cost center, if necessary.
4. To close the dialog box, click on u201CEnteru201D button.
3. Displaying CENVAT Account Balances
To display the balances of your CENVAT accounts, choose Balances.
The system displays the balances only of the CENVAT accounts that are affected by your G/L postings. -
View Part 1 / Part 2 in J1IS & J1IH
Hi
I posted excise transaction in J1IS / J1IH. In display mode , on view part 1 /par 2 TAB, the register is blank , ie the BED, ECS & SECess is 0.
Please let me know if any config is to be done for this display.
NB - The data is visible in the Register area ie J2I9.
Thanks
kamalaHi
In J1IS, you create Excise invoice which will get updated only the Payable account. Only in the month end or Fortnightly, the Excise registers will get updated through T.code J2IUN. I think thats the reason why you were not able to see the amount in the Part2.
Regards,
Lakshmanan Krishnan -
Creation of Excise Invoice in J1IS Transaction - using DLFC ref. doc. type
Hi,
I tried to create the excise Invoice using Ref. Doc Type DLFC in J1IS by giving the material document. But it is not allowing me to process further.
The business process requirment is to create a Supplementary Excise Invoice(Customer is Billed for a lesser value earlier)
we tried the following:
1. Credit memo request
2. Credit Memo
3. Excise Invoice in J1IS using sub.Tran Type(to map the Sales exc Inv Accounts). The reson why we used J1IS is to meet the requiremnt of generating the Outgoing Excise Invoice Number which is not possible in J1IH.
Now the issue is, the excise invoice created in J1IS is not available for Utilizaton in J2IUN
Please Suggest what process to be followed to address the issue.
regards,
GirishIn normal circumstances, it is not possible to generate an excise invoice for credit / debit notes in SAP. Moreover, DLFC excise invoice type can be generated only if delivery is involved. So in order to achieve the requirement (and fool the system :-|), you can try by creating a delivery with an item category as TAX so that it will not check for stock, do PGI and invoice (credit memo) can be generated referencing credit memo request. Finally, try to generate an excise invoice via J1IIN
I have never tried this option and hence, its only a guess that this should work. Update after testing.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi
Edited by: Lakshmipathi on Jul 26, 2011 2:07 PM -
Cancellation & JV of Excise invoice generated through J1IS
Dear Friends,
We have a requirement to cancel the outgoing excise invoice created through the transaction J1IS towards purchase return.
I believe through J1IS, cancellation of the excise invoice is made possible but no accounting document get posted. Only the status is being changed from 'Posted' to 'Cancelled'.
While doing the JV through the Transaction J1IH => Cancell Exc Inv, system is giving error message as follows:
"Excise modvat accounts not defined for CEIV transaction and excise group".
In the customisation, all the relevant GL accounts are found maintained against transaction type CEIV.
For example at the time of outgoing excise invoice posting through J1IS following accounts hit.
13113920 CENVAT clearing 8
13113920 CENVAT clearing 771
13113920 CENVAT clearing 15
13113900 CENVAT Payable - 8
13113900 CENVAT Payable - 771
13113900 CENVAT Payable - 15
We would like to have an opposite entry through the transaction code J1IH => Cancellation of Exc Inv.
Kindly give a suitable solution to make the cancellation.
Thanks.
Harikrishnan.Hi Hari,
Do the blw option
whenever you are trying to cancel the Excise Invoice generated by J1IS/J1IV , Use J1IH-> Cancel Excise Invoice> you have to give the Official Excise invoice no. which is generated by J1IV for cancellation
and ref the sdn thread with same issue
How to cancel excise invoice which is created through t.code J1is
Cancel J1IS Excise Invoice -
Accounting entries for excise invoice for purchase returns in J1IS
Dear Friends
1) I recorded an excise invoice for goods receips in J1IEX . The accounting entry is
Input BED a/c DR
Input ECS a/c DR
Input H.css A/c DR
CENVAT clearing CR
2) There were some damaged items and same returned to vendor. I did RETURN Delivery in MIGO. The excise invoice in J1IS gives error " BALANCE IN TRANSACTION CURRENCY". Here I used Ref document type - MATD
QUESTION :
What is the Excise transaction type for ' other outward movement' in J1IS to which I should assign the excise accounts to reverse (1) above. Is it OTHR or GPRO.
Thanks
kamalaDear Mathews,
It is not capital goods. Also if I do a JV in J1IH, the entry goes and is as below :
Cenvat clrg DR, Input -BED /E.cess/ S.cess CR
But J1IS does not save, though I have assigned all said accounts in 'Excise accts per excise transation' for OTHR. Also I read in wiki that the entry for purchase return excise inv in J1IS is ' CENV CLRG ....DR , CENV RECEIVABLE ...CR ' .If so, then do i creat new GL for Cenv Receivable ? What is its effect on FORTNIGHTLY UTILIZATION
thanks for telling
kamala
Edited by: Kamala Surianarayanan on Mar 6, 2009 6:38 AM
Edited by: Kamala Surianarayanan on Mar 6, 2009 6:38 AM -
Option to be selected in J1IH for settling Supplementary Invoice
Dear All,
Please guide me, what is the option to be selected in the T code J1IH for settling Supplementary Invoice Excise Adjustments.
In the initial screen, I am selecting "Other Adjustments". I hope this is the correct option in case we are creating supplementary invoice for increase in price.
In the next screen we have 4 option after selecting the "Other Adjustments". (For your information, we are not maintaining PLA Balances. )
1. RG23A
2. RG23C
3. PLA
4. Fortnightly Payment
Kindly suggest me in this.
Another doubt, if we are settling supplementary invoice for "Decrease in price", then in the J1IH initial screen, what is the option we need to select.
1. Other Adjustments or
2. Additional Excise
Please advice on this also.
Regards,
MullairajaDear Ajithkumar,
I tried in J1IS also. I have selected "OTHR" and created the document.
But here also, system is taking Input tax related G/L Accounts.
Since our Credit or Debit entries related to SD, it should take Ouput tax related G/L accounts.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
Mullairaja -
PartII Registers are not updated for J1IS
Hi All,
Please help me to know, why there is no update for part II registers for Invoice for MRDY type , which was done through J1IS.Please help to configure these things
Example:
Returns PO Created ME21N
Goods posted :MIGO with Movt 161
Part I updated with J1I5
Invoice created with J1IS
Registers updated with J2I5 and then J2I6.
While doing J2I5 for part II, it is not updating the Part II register(I mean ,this transaction is not showing in J2I6)
If I do the other adjustments in transaction J1IH, we can able to update PartII registers (J2I5 then J2I6).
Please help in this regards.
Thanks and Regards
Jonnakuti RajuHi,
RG23A Part II register will have entries of Credit or Debit of Excise Duties, Excise Invoice created is not a part of RG23 Register. Through J1IS only Excise Invoice is created, effect of debiting the excise duties to this respective excise invouce will happen only when you will do J2IUN for debitting the excise duty. Moreover you can see the list in J2IUN - Pending Invoice or in J1I7 , use ETT type OTHR.
Regards,
Vikas
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