Return in excise

Hi,
scenario is: i have sold 10 nos excisable finished product from excisable plant to our customer.(OR-LF-F2-J1IIN) Relevent registar RG1 updated ,extraction done. After two months , customer returns 2nos back to plant.Return OR-Return LF- after that what do i have to do to reverse cenvat entries from excise point of view.
a. J1IH or J1IS ?
b. If its J1IS what is ref document type to be used?in which register will it get updated ?
c. If its J1IH which option we need to take ( other adjustment,additional excise ..etc..) and which registers to choose ( RG23A,RG23C, PLA,Fortnightly payment ) as Finished goods is getting returned
kindly advise pls...
thanks
-UK

Dear Umesh,
One of my Reply is already being referred in previous Post, i.e.
[Excise Return|Excise Returns;
However, Other inputs:
To your Point:
which registers to choose ( RG23A,RG23C, PLA,Fortnightly payment )
With J1IH, entry gets created in RG23A Part2. A/C Doc. is generated and updated in the table: J_1Ipart2
Another point is
c. If its J1IH which option we need to take ( other adjustment,additional excise ..etc..)
MORE - ADDITION ADJ
LESS - OTHER ADJ
Best Regards,
Amit
Note:
J1IS - Process an excise invoice (outgoing) for other movements
Whereas,
J1IH - Make a CENVAT adjustment posting

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