Java not respecting system proxy settings.

Trying to launch a webex session in Safari (Version 5.1.2 (6534.52.7)) from behind a corporate VPN,  but is failing with
Using JRE version 1.6.0_29-b11-402-10M3527 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
load: class JVMDetect not found.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: JVMDetect
          at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Applet2ClassLoader.java:252)
          at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass0(Plugin2ClassLoader.java:249)
          at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass(Plugin2ClassLoader.java:179)
          at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass(Plugin2ClassLoader.java:160)
          at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
          at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadCode(Plugin2ClassLoader.java:690)
          at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager.createApplet(Plugin2Manager.java:3045)
          at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager$AppletExecutionRunnable.run(Plugin2Manager.ja va:1497)
          at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:680)
Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: JVMDetect
Trace level set to 5: all… completed.
Logging set to : true… completed.
network: Connecting http://oraclesystemsupport.webex.com/sc0700ld/supportcenter/html/applet/JVMDetec t.class with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://oraclesystemsupport.webex.com:80/ with proxy=DIRECT
It seems it can't load the class because it's trying to connect DIRECT and not via my corporate proxy.
My proxy is configured in my system settings as "auto proxy discovery". Everything else honours the proxy setting. Safari has no problem and connects to all internal & external sites without issue.  Even Firefox has no problem, and can launch the webex fine. If I configure a proxy ipaddress in the "Java Preferences" network proxy settings, I can launch the webex. But when set to "use system settings", it doesn't use the proxy.
So I can't figure out why java, when launched through safari, doesn't respect the system proxy setting.
I know it's nothing to do with local caching because I get the same with a fresh user I created especially for testing.
Has Apple broken something?    It was working fine until I applied the latest updates last week.

It seems to be an issue with 'liveconnect' (which I assume is needed by webex).
liveconnect can be tested here.
      http://www.jdams.org/live-connect-test/
The above test works fine when a proxy isn't involved.  But on the corporate VPN liveconnect get stuck trying to connect DIRECT instead of going via the proxy.
Is this a known bugs?  any ideas?

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