[K8N Neo] Command queuing question

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, though I was unable to find a clear answer whether or not the K8N NEO supports any form of command queuing?
Many thanks,

Hi and welcome,
Yes it does. However the benefit seems minimal for standar use / gaming.

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K8N Neo 4 Platinum Questions...

I'm going to be upgrading to a 7800GTX soon and will have to replace my mobo which is a K8N Neo 2 Platinum. I am currently using an Antec True 550 ps, which has 30 amps on the 12v rail. However, it is only a single rail ps and it has a 20 pin connecter. I plan on upgrading to a K8N Neo 4 board and was wondering if my ps is still okay even though it's only a single rail. I read the sticky and it seemed to suggest that single rail was still preferable but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't mis-reading anything. Secondly, does the K8N Neo 4 use a 20 or 24 pin header? If it uses the 24 pin will I be okay using my current ps which is only a 20 pin? Moreover, would I be advised to purchase a 20->24 pin adapter or should I just plug the 20 pin into it's corresponding pins?
The rest of my system:
Winchester 3500+
DVD burner
CD burner
OCZ 2 GB (2x1024) Platinum DDR 400 memory
Haupaugge PVR 250
WD 160 GB SATA HD
Thanks for any advice

K8N Neo4 Platinum has compatibility issues with nVidia 7800 cards. There is a capacitor very close to the PCI slot which makes the installation impossible. You may search the forum for more info.
Your PSU is OK as long as you won't be overclocking as your card consumes a lot of juice/I'd still go for more Ampers on the 12V rail/. It's not really a problem whether you have 1 or 2 12V rails....The mobo uses 24pin header but 20 is OK as well....You don't need an adaptor for that.

K8N Neo HT frequency question

There's this option in the BIOS called "HT Frequency" - i can choose 4x, 3x and other values.
What is "HT Frequency" ?
Mines currently set to 4x.
I'm currently running 10 x 240 FSB 1:1

HT is the hypertransport multiplier.
HTT x HT is hypertransport speed.
So you have HTT=240 and HT=4 so your hypertransport is running at 960 mhz. That's getting up there, since the default is just 200x4=800 mhz. If you go too high, you'll crash. Thus, if you need to keep raising your HTT (for more memory or CPU speed, for example), then you might wish to drop HT down to 3. Don't worry about much of a loss of performance -- hypertransport speed is the least important performance factor.

K8N Neo 2 Memory Question

After installing 1 x Ultra 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory alongside 2 x Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory, the computer does not boot up at all.
However, after some testing, two configurations have been found to work:
1 x Ultra 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz
or
2 x Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR 400MHz
Thus, is it impossible to set up three memory sticks at one time? Would buying another 1 GB stick remedy this situation, so that all four slots are filled up? Is it perhaps something to do with dual channel system?

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=607
you cannot use three sticks, full stop

RAID Question? K8N Neo...

I just purchased the K8N Neo Platinum and noticed right away that my Maxtor 6Y08OMO 7200rpm SATA HD has just became a speed demon.. It now beats my 15K rpm Cheatah and my Raptors... My question is can I have two completely diferent RAID arrays? One for Windows XP on the two Raptors and one with the two Maxtors for high speed storage/video editing stuff???
Maybe like this:
SATA 1/2 = Raptors in RAID 0
SATA 3/4 = Maxtors in RAID 0
Can I do this on the K8N Neo Platinum?
If I can do this than I will be getting a second Maxtor right away...
Thanks in advance...

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Originally posted by }SkOrPn--'
I know I can do RAID but didnt know if I could do 2 RAID arrays simultaneously. If so than I will get another Maxtor drive. Thanks for replying.
I love this board...
You can.
You should look into raid 0+1 for the raptors though.

K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 XP 3700 heat question

i did do a quick search on here before posting this question but had a load of varying answers ... so
i have a K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 an xp 3700 and core centre says the chip is at about 45 - 50 degrees when the pc is idle
this is with the stock fan that came with the chip and ive also tried a samurai heatsink and fan .... ive reseated and reapplied artic silver and also tried thermal pads as well and the temp on the processor always comes back as 45 ish degrees
is this normal as the pc seems to run ok and even after round of doom 3 the temps only seem to hit about 55
are these chips hotter now or is it a bios / thermal temp issue
cheers guys
ohh and nice forums BTW

yup, issue with temp reading -> 1.43 beta bios for K8N NEO pL. for me 36-39 idle 42-45 after a doom3 session

K8N Neo Pl - PSU RAILS question

Hi guys,
I have two supplies and want to know to use for my PC (K8N Neo Platinum with AMD64 3000+). I have read around that the Wattage is not a true indication of a good PSU, so I am not using this reading. I have read the Current (Amps) values from both PSUs, but they present the info in different ways. Add to this the fact that I have no idea about PSUs, then it leaves me with much to learn
PSU 1 reads:
+3.3V
28A
+5V
38A
+12V
17A
-12V
0.8A
-5V
0.5A
[/list]
Whilst PSU 2 is a little more confusing. It has two current readings - one is Peak and the other Max:
+3.3V
Peak=30A
Max=18A
+5V
Peak=40A
Max=30A
+12V
Peak=20A
Max=16A
-12V
Peak=1.0A
Max=0.5A
-5V
Peak=1.0A
Max=0.5A
[/list]
Can anyone help me understand the following:
[list=1]
For PSU 2, which reading should I take - peak or max?
Which of the 2 PSUs is better (I guess this depends on the answer to question 1 above)?
What is the meaning of the different rails?
How close to these values should the PSU stay?[/list=1]
Thanks in advance for any help

this is the most common question here on the forum it seems
lots of info on it here
a quick search will pull up hundreds of threads on psu`s
psu2 states max continuous at 16a 12v peak is 20a 12v
meaning it will spike to 20a but will only hold 16 for any length of time...
psu1 who knows weather it is max peak or continuous amps at those voltages !
whatever they both seem very weak on the +12v rail which "could and prob will" present problems with a amd64 system.
ok suggestions ( single rail )
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ocz
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all got good reps here

K8N Neo Platinum Bios 1.3 Question

This is bit of a dumb question..... I am not a noob either, been building computers for 6 years.
I have a K8N Neo Platinum with AMD64 3000, 1 GB Corsair Value Ram, 160 GB Western Digital ATA Drive, ATI 9800 Pro 128MB Catalyst 4.7, LG DVD Drive and NEC 2510A DVD burner, Windows XP Pro with SP 1a.
Tried to get into Safe Mode the other day ( to uninstall the video driver with Driver Cleaner) ...Hit F8 while booting , got the standard menu for safe mode, picked the standard "Safe Mode " option....then the computer restarts.
So I can't get into safe mode
I went back to the MSI website to get bios version again....then I saw this for Bios version 1.3 which I have on my board....
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System reboot to safe mode when "Insert" key pressed
Does this mean, instead of hitting F8...you hit the insert key , or does this mean hit F8, chose the menu selection you want , then hit insert while it is going through the boot process.
Thought that I would ask?

The "safe mode" that the BIOS message refers to is not related to Windows' Safe Mode. The BIOS safe mode lets you un-do any overclocking or memory settings that might make your computer so unstable that you can't even get into the BIOS settings to change them. In that case, you hold insert while powering on to reset the BIOS to default safe values.
As for your problem getting into Windows' Safe Mode. If you upgraded from another motherboard that uses a different chipset, or if you somehow got the wrong chipset drivers installed, then the old AGP GART or chipset drivers will cause the system to halt/reboot very early in the Windows boot process even in safe mode. I've run into this problem before and its tricky. Best thing to do is switch back to the old motherboard, then go into safe mode and remove all chipset-related drivers, and then switch back to the new motherboard. If you can't do that, try running system repair from the windows setup CD. And failing that, you'd probably have to fully re-install the OS.

Newb Question MSI K8N Neo Platinum.

okay i have my parts coming in for my first build ever(i'm nervous, but anxious at the same time) and i just got my MSI K8N Neo Platinum today, all the other parts will come in the next couple of days, cpu arrives next week i believe, specs:
Antec P-160WF
OCZ 520w
Athlon 3400+
mobo(above)
1g corsair
160 Samsung S-ATA HD
I've been going over the mobo manual and i'm confused. I'm not familiar with raid and never had a sata drive, do they go hand and hand? Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all? I don't want to use raid, but do i have to? i'm trying to make this build as simple as possible since it's my first time, i know this is probably a dumb question, i'm just new at this.....don't be surprised to see more dumb questions in the coming weeks! thanks.

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Originally posted by onebyte
>>Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all?
In a word, no.
I've just fired up my first homebuilt last night. Joy! It's all went perfect on the first power-up. I'm in a similar position, and have a single SATA Hitachi Deskstar. Although I've not yet installed an OS, my understanding is that the Serial ATA interface will work just fine with a single drive. No multiple drive RAID is needed.
My understanding is that all you have to be sure to do is load the SATA drivers from the included diskette, by pressing F6 on boot up. Otherwise the drive won't be properly recognized by the bios. I haven't done this yet, and its still showing as an IDE drive in some places of my bios setup.
If I had it to do over again I doubt I'd spend the extra dollars to go SATA with a single HD. It adds another level of complexity in transferring things to the new machine, and - according to certain authorities -- doesn't really add the extra performance over an ATA 133 that I first thought it would. At least with a 7200 RPM drive, it seems that the 150 or 133 limits never come into play, as the drive's mechanical limitations are less than both... so it's not a bottleneck.
I'm still trying to decide the best way to transfer my Win xp OS and other MS Office programs and updates. I'm not sure if I can clone my PATA HD to the SATA, or if I do what problems I'd have to fix. I've been thinking about transferring a Ghost or Acronis True Image to the new machine and then doing a WinXP repair install to see if I can get everything working with a minimum of time and effort. I'm not sure what to expect, or if it will even work at all. Or if it does, if it will leave me with problems (registry, drivers, etc).
We'll soon see.
Good luck with the build. The only real headache I had, other than getting the HSF uniit on the processor, was trying to connect the case front panel wires for the USB, Firewire, and Audio out and IN jacks, to the mainboard headers. The case wires were single pins and were labeled differently that the MB header block pin assignments. I finally gave up on the audio and firewire, and just used the USB connections after modifying them -- removing the two extra ground wires on pins 9 and 10.
Just take your time and follow the directions. Spend some time looking at the way the heatsink and fan connect onto the processor. Doing that without messing up the thermal compound can be tricky, and the directions from AMD could be clearer on that score.
Again, good luck,
thanks for the info, let me know how it goes...by the sound of what rainz said it seems you don't need to put in that 3.5" floppy disk that came with the mobo, is that right, rainz? Let me know how your OS installs onebyte, i'm curious to know if the SATA gave you trouble or not, wish you luck!

K8N Neo Platinum nf3 250Gb SATA RAID question?

Hi all I'm ready to make the move to an AMD A64 setup from my currnet P4.
You all know what a tough job it is to find the right motherboard for an A64
After much research I think the K8N Neo Platinum is the board for me, but there's one question I can't find an answer too. So I'm turning to this forum. Thanks much for any help.
I currently run a dual RAID"0" setup. Two WD360 Raptors as boot array off the Si3114 on-board controller and two WD740 Raptors as a game \ power apps storage array off the ICH5R southbridge.
My question is; Is it possible to run this drive setup off the K8N Neo Platinum's 4 SATA controllers? Two seperate RAID"0" arrays with one bootable.
thank you-Mike

I decided to go with a S939 instead....I know me...and I'll want one as soon as I got the S754 up & running
I ordered a K8T NEO2-FIR...Its got the on-board Promise SATA RAID controller + on chip VIA RAID...so it should suit my drive needs perfectly

Question for those with memory issues on k8n neo plat

I have been having issues with my memory on the k8n neo platinum board since i built the system last month and i just recently discovered a fact I had overlooked.
I Have discovered that if i test the system while it is cool (having sat turned off overnight for example), then memtest will pass the ram just fine and the system will be stable for a short period of time, generally longer if no intensive applications are used, ie. doom3 vs. websurfing).
This system, once it heats up ( seems mostly to be the nvidia 3 nb that needs to be "hot"- that is, a probe placed in contact with the module reaches about 58+ degrees c) then the system becomes unstable and memtest, if used, fails.
Prime95, if used on it when its cool, will usually take about an hour or so to fail, but if its used on the system when its been running a bit ( temps from nb at 58c+ and memory module hot to the touch) then it fails after about 20-30 seconds.
I have placed an active hs on the nb in an attempt to correct this, but temps still remain high with failures occuring.
I have spent the better part of three days testing the sytem this way and the above facts have held true in all these tests.
I have tested at stock ratings ( not using "auto" in bios, but using "approved ratings" of 10 x 200 for fsb and timings of 2-3-3-7 for my ram at 1:1 (which is recommended as well) since i am testing for base stability at this point;Voltages have been left at auto settings, however.
I was wondering if anyone else with memory issues could try this out and post if this seems to be the case for you as well.
Perhaps the memory issues on these boards are directly related to a problem with the nvidia 3 chipset running too hot?
Does anyone have a memory issue with these boards who is using water cooling on the NB ?
Lack of issues from people using 'problem" memory, but having no failures with water cooled nb's would support my assumption.

Yes i did mean chipset.
I am using a stock hs/fan from amd, which seems to run a tad hot but, considering that I wont overclock until I can get board stable, its not an issue. (runs 35-40 idle and up to 72 intensive). I need the warranty more then the extra mhz at present.
I removed the stock heatsink from the nvidia chipset and bought a generic chipset cooler (green, very little in the way of fins and seems to be aluminum) with a small fan.
I used a generic silver paste from Compusa to adhere both the cpu hs and the chipset.
I didnt lap either hs, just installed each as per instructions on artic silvers website (figured it had to go on the same way even generic).
I also bought a kingwin thermal center which i ran probes from to the cpu, case, and nb chipset.
I am not using it to adjust fans so those arent connected - its just a reference temp I can see at a glance, esp considering the funky bios reading this boards been known to give.
I assume from these responces that even a nvidia 3 250 chipset shouldnt get as hot as mine?
I asked about that from the retailer i bought this from but he seemed to think it was "ok" at 50ish celcius, but then again he didnt look too confident when he said it, lol.
Idle right now reads on Corecenter at 28 celcius for cpu and 33 celcius for the chipset, although, I have readings of 37 c and 43 c from the kingwin thermal center, which i believe to be more accurate.
My voltage reads at 11.67 for the 12v line at idle right now.
The psu i got is stick from the xblade case i bought in store. (http://www.xoxide.com/xblade2.html)
I have a dvd burner, cd drive, and two maxtor ide hd's attached to the system;The only card is the agp.
Is there a way to check and see if the cpu ispower starved? software monitor or even an external probe perhaps?
I havent put a probe on it, but the ram came in its own heatspreader, which gets very hot to the touch as well.
What temps should I be looking for on these items?

K8n Neo Platinum non-booting SATA RAID setup question

I've spent several hours searching an reading trying to find out how to setup a non-bootable SATA RAID. All I can seem to find are posts about bootable installs using F6 and the drivers on a floppy.
I have setup the disks in the bios an defined the array an everything checks out. But when I boot back to WindowsXP it only sees 2 drives that it cannot find drivers for even if I point it to the correct Nvidia directory. I attempted to just reinstall the drivers but that caused a Bluescreen from a corrupt driver file that I then had to go into the repair console to copy from a floppy.
The manual an a couple of posts here say that I should go into Admin Tools-> Disk Management an it will then popup a wizard. But I'm not getting that far.
I currently have the disks on SATA 1 and 2 but will move them tonite because I've read its better for them to be on 3 and 4.
This is on a K8N Neo Platinum 7030 on Windows XP SP2. If anyone could help or just point me to where I can find help it would be greatly appreciated.

When the raid controller is enabled in bios and you start windows you can install the nvidia raid driver
from within windows .
Use the add hardware wizard from control panel .
Start the add-hw wizard .
Yes i have connected the hw - next .
Add a new hw device (bottom of the list ) -next .
Install the hw that i select manually from a list - next .
Select scsi/raid controller - next .
Choose have disk .
Then browse for the location of the nvraid.inf file

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

Hi there,
I've currently got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition (Nforce 3) motherboard and 2X 512 MB Corsair Value Select memory modules (both double sided) running at DDR 400 - this runs completely stable and has done for a number of months. I would like to increase my memory to 1.5 Gig but there seems to be a lot of issues?
I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i've been looking through both this forum and the Corsair one and i cant seem to find the answer.
thanks in advance !

Just note that there are combinations of two sticks that will also make the board run in DDR333 mode (see page 2-8 of the manual). For example, using two double-sided sticks in DIMM2 and DIMM3. I've actually managed to get it to work at DDR400 in those two slots, but it's not perfectly stable and overclocking diminishes drastically. Bottom line is the system will work fine when forced to DDR333...as long as you don't expect to overclock the RAM to any significant degree.

Quick Question MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI

Hey guys,i am new to this forums just needed some help, i am about to purchase a:
AMD 64 3000 VENICE
LEDTEK 6600 GT PCI EXRESS GDDR3
CORSAIR VALUESELECT 1GB RAM DUAL CHANNEL
MSI K8N NEO 4 PLAT SLI
EPOWER 450 WATT PSU
i was wondering woud i need to update the bios 1st or will the stock bios that comes with the motherboard will work with the venice. I am getting all these parts from Zip Zoom Fly, accept the PSU. Thanks for your help.

Quote from: Dream_true on 28-June-05, 08:14:40
Only BIOS 1.4 and above support Venice & San Diego. However BIOS 1.4 has shut-down issue with RAID. It is suggested that you let your reseller help you flash BIOS to the latest version 1.5. After flashing BIOS, Loading Optimized defaults is needed of course. Good Luck!
Support new features in that cpuid yes. But that is not the same as you are not able to boot/post your system
with an earlier bios .
I booted up a venice on a K8N Neo2 with an aged 1.3 bios (with no venice SD support) just fine .
If the bios supports 90nm cpu it will post .
New CPUID added means :
Shown on post (display)
And e.g new model spesific features (like e.g SSE3 ) enabled .
Use the CPUID instruction to properly identify the processor.
• Determine the processor type, stepping, and available features by using functions 0000_0001h
and 8000_0001h of the CPUID instruction.
• Boot-up display - The processor name should be displayed according to the processor name string
defined in CPUID Guide for the AMD Athlon™ 64 and AMD Opteron™ Processors, order#
25481.
Chapter 12 , Bios and Kernel developers quide for athlon 64 . 26094.PDF

K8N Neo 2, newbie overclocking question

Processor AMD 64 3800 + Venice core
Zalman Ultraquiet Cooler (big)
MSI K8N Neo 2 mbio
Dual Channel Corsair 3200 1 gig (2 sticks of 512)
X800XL Ati AGP
Audigy 2 SZ
Im a harcore gamer and would like to overclock my system to its best.
What can I overclock and to what speeds?
CPU
memory
AGP
Roughly wnat cpu speed should I try to reach for?

Quote from: acacia987 on 21-July-05, 23:13:52
i have the same board and a venice core 3200+ with no over clocking and my temps are already at 51C at load.... any thoughts? i have the updated bios
Yes!
If you have C&Q enabled it is way to high.... reaply the CPU fan, perhaps... use quality goop (AS3 or somthing - I perfer Cheramiqe ... easyer to apply... harder to spell )

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