Kde 3.4.0 - kde 3.3.x (observations)

if you have questions or bugs or i-don-t-know-what regarding the pkgs of kde 3.4.0, please use the thread http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=10566 for your reports. this thread is used for posting observations regarding features and speed of kde 3.4.0
after now running kde 3.4.0 for a certain time i want to write down some observations:
- kDE runs faster (this is subjective, but on my old machine running 266mhz it reacts much faster and daily usage is more confortable (without having to wait on windows to come up))
- it uses less memory (managed to start kde with memusage of less than 140mb total - on 3.3.2 the same session takes 230mb)
- icons look nicer (same crystal as 3.3.2) but they come up slower (redrawing a window makes icons disappear for short and be redrawn) - i guess that now icons are SVG and the svg-engine is the bottle-neck
- klipper has preview of images (copy an image in gimp and click the klipper: you will _see_ what you have copied!) - really cool feature!

Lots of cool features, but I have noticed it is very crashy...
It doesn't seem to like to be stable.. It does run far quicker (but then again, this is my first Arch KDE install...was using enlightenment...and probably still will...) but it runs far faster than ANY other distro I've installed with KDE. So kudos to Arch, or KDE, whoever got it right finally.
It also starts quite a deal quicker
Control panel is great, less cluttered. My Home desktop icon dissapeared after my desktop crashed (i turned on line up icons and it wo't work.. had to turn it off). Oh well, I'll just make another.
Few bugs here and there, but Nothing working sniffing over. After all, after I get it set up, i don't need to mess with it anyway.
Mousover effects seemed cool, although I turned them off (too windows XPish)
Some problems with konqueror so far, but I think it's just a sign of the release more than anything else.

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