Kde's folderview, without kde?

currently i have no program to manage my desktop, the root window. that's not a big problem for me, but i really really like the idea of the kde plasmoid "folderview". i'd like to have something like an istance (or more) of thunar running silently in window w/o menus on the desktop, say on the same z-level, w/o a taskbar icon. i don't care about icons on the desktop, but it would be useful sometimes to just put there some files temporary (with drag&drop or context menu).
this thing should be lightweight too!
so, that said, is there anything like this outside KDE?
i tried installing the component, but it brings a LOT of kde dependencies!! i'm running something once was a lxde installation. i've got some gnome libraries, but i miss the whole kde bunch.
i've been searching for a while but i'm still empty handed..
thank you for any suggestion!!
PS&OT: i wanted to propose a couple of nice programs to the community, but i can't start a new topic in the "try this" section. why?

thank you! that looks nice!!
but the screenlets package comes with tonnes of dependencies too, among which pm-utils and hal. it's the same burden to me as installing kde components.. i tried it before
there's another widget host application, called adesklet, which comes with very few dependencies.
maybe i'll try making a folderview application for it, when i'll have some more free time..
Last edited by v43 (2011-03-06 10:30:51)

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I already submitted the issue on bugs.kde.org:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270414
Version: unspecified (using KDE 4.6.2)
OS: Linux
When i rename a file using folderview, the file is renamed, but an error is
triggered.
Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
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Actual Results:
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Expected Results:
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------- Comment #1 From Nikos Papas 2011-04-09 18:22:21 -------
I cannot reproduce the error. Using KDE 4.6.2, 64bit, Kubuntu packages.
Can somebody try to reproduce under arch please?
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I can reproduce this error.
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linux
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openbox
chromium
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How to install KDE without an internet connection

I have a fast internet connection at the office, but not at home.
1. What files do I need to copy so that I can burn a KDE CD?
2. What is the procedure to install KDE from my own CD?
Thank you.
wickyd

Those commands don't need an internet connection.
Do this:
1) download ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/current/os/i686 … .db.tar.gz and ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/i686/extra.db.tar.gz when you have internet
2) on your home pc (as root): cd /var/lib/pacman ; cd current ; rm -rf * ; tar xzf /path/to/current.db.tar.gz ; cd ../extra ; rm -rf * ; tar xzf /path/to/extra.db.tar.gz
3) pacman -Sp --noconfim kde > pkglist
4) take that file where you have internet and run wget -nv -i .../pkglist in an empty directory
5) when the download has finished take those files to your home pc, put them in /var/cache/pacman/pkg and run pacman -S kde
Last edited by byte (2007-02-28 22:40:05)

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