KDE 5 replacing KDE 4?
I don´t like the idea. I don´t want KDE 5 at this moment, i want a pure KDE 4 / QT4 desktop. I saw some elements like konsole, being replaced for their qt5 version. Is this an error? If not, I think is a bad decision. I guess it's time to block KDE 5/QT5 components in pacman.conf. KDE4 users, what do you think?
Buddlespit wrote:
freebullets wrote:Wow. Is the laptop running Linux for performance reasons? There's really not much reason to be using Linux over Windows if you're not a power-user. Most people expect to be able to install any application they encounter, and not being able to do that is frustrating.
Cost. Windows costs money. Big reason, right there. Plus, I know how to fix a Linux system if it breaks. Not so good with Windows.
freebullets wrote: Secondly, KDE 5 is the next version of KDE, and the amount of maintenance effort for KDE 4 will be dropping extremely fast once it's declared stable. You can install the Breeze theme for KDE 4 if you need consistent visual style between apps. If visual consistency is that valuable to you, I believe Kubuntu spends a lot of effort on keeping things polished for end users.
The KF5 & Plasma thread is up to 45 pages when I look at it, and steadily growing. Once the bitching about what's broken stops, or at least slows down, I'll install it, full time, on my system. Until then, it's broken. I get the KDE RSS feed in Kontact. I tend to read it. If the developers aren't traveling around the world, going to summits or sprints everywhere, they're adding crap like wallpapers and avatars or working on things like AI. How about fixing what you have instead of developing Krita for Windows? It's nice to know that Calligra has released a bug-fix, but I still can't access my panel to launch it, or if I can access the panel, the fonts are almost the same color are the background of the app. I know KDE4 is going away. I do spot checks in my journal and can see all of the "kded5[2796]: kf5.kded: kded module "ksuch-n-such" still uses .desktop files ("kded/ksuch-n-such.desktop"). Please port it to JSON metadata." or "org.kde.kblah-blah[2720]: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave." every time I boot. Every week, the lists grow. Either Plasma 5 becomes stable enough to install (for my system) or KDE4 breaks enough to make Plasma 5 an attractive option.
My recommendation would be to stick to a stable release of KDE. You could possibly achieve that in Arch by holding back the KDE packages. From what I know, open source developers are largely people like you and me with full time jobs. Also, keep in mind that the people trying to port application to Windows might not be the same ones that work on improving the Linux version.
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[kde-unstable] KDE Applications 15.04 Beta
Packages (x86_64 only) are available for testing in the official [kde-unstable] repo.
New applications in this release: kdenlive, telepathy-kde
Ported to KF5 in this release:
- kdeadmin: kcron
- kdeedu: blinken, cantor, kbruch, kgeography, kiten klettres, kmplot, kstars, kturtle, kwordquiz, rocs, step
- kdegames: bomber, bovo, granatier, kapman, katomic, kblackbox, kblocks, kbounce, kbreakout, kdiamond, kfourinline, killbots, kjumpingcube, klines, kmines, knetwalk, kollision, kpatience, kshisen, ksquares
- kdegraphics: kruler
- kdesdk: kompare, lokalize
- kdeutils: filelight, kcalc, kcharselect, ktimer, print-manager
- kdetoys: kteatime
Please report packaging issues to bugs.archlinux.org (using [kde-unstable] in the description), upsteam issues to bugs.kde.org
Known packaging issues:
- cantor is missing, compilation fails at the moment
- kdeartwork is not packaged, it's mostly stuff for KDE4 which hasn't been updated for years. Same for kde-wallpapers, kde-base-artwork.
- l10n packages are not available, so new KF5 apps will not be translated
- rocs depends on grantlee-qt5, which conflicts with grantlee-qt4, so currently can't be coinstalled with some KDE4 apps such as kdepim, kdevelop or skrooge. Hopefully will be fixed before the final release.
Last edited by arojas (2015-03-23 21:54:10)fishonadish wrote:
pb wrote:
MilesRdz wrote:No Qt5 Dolphin in this release?
No. Both: Dolphin and all KDE-Baseapps will be in 15.08.
Personally I use dolphin-git version (from AUR) and it works pretty well. It depends only on baloo-widgets from git (and AUR). The all other dependencies are in repositories.
I was going to try this but following the baloo-git dependency, it seems to depend on a lot of git versions
I've just modified PKGBUILD of baloo-widgets-git:
# Contributor: Andrea Scarpino <[email protected]>
pkgname=baloo-widgets-git
pkgver=r408.ebfa75c
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="A framework for searching and managing metadata"
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
url='https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/baloo'
license=('LGPL')
depends=('baloo-frameworks')
makedepends=('extra-cmake-modules' 'git' 'kdoctools')
source=('git://anongit.kde.org/baloo-widgets')
replaces=('baloo-widgets-frameworks-git')
md5sums=('SKIP')
pkgver() {
cd baloo-widgets
printf "r%s.%s" "$(git rev-list --count HEAD)" "$(git rev-parse --short HEAD)"
prepare() {
mkdir -p build
build() {
cd build
cmake ../baloo-widgets \
-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release \
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr \
-DLIB_INSTALL_DIR=lib
make
package() {
cd build
make DESTDIR="${pkgdir}" install
It depends only on stable baloo-frameworks and... so on, it works.
Then build and install this baloo-widgets-git before dolphin-git, and after that install dolphin-git from AUR. This solutions is for those from us, who want to use baloo with dolphin. -
Hi!
I'm at the point of installing the GUI, KDE4 for instance, and I'm curious about what veteran Arch-KDE4 users can tell me about this. I read about the two KDE and KDE-META and I wonder which will be the best to have an up-to-date and/or stable KDE4.
Also, in my last attempt to install Arch (this is my second time doing a Arch install, I haven't any system up and working yet but I'm starting feeling a seasoned Arch user, lol) I remember installing plain KDE installed a LOT of applications and games I would not want because KDE package installs whole KDE suite.
Alongside kdebase and kdeutils (or kde-meta-kdebase and kde-meta-kdeutils) which other packages should I install to have a full working base but complete KDE4 system, like say Kubuntu? (sorry but's the only KDE I liked after trying Fedora's and openSUSE's KDE implementation)
I'm talking about a complete KDE system with printer support and so on, I'm not talking about applications which I can add individually.hi Pierre!
I did read the wiki and that's why I was in doubt on which package should I install.
I see you are a KDeveloper? I'm very grateful of the KDE Team work. I like other DE too and all have their pros and cons, but KDE is the only environment that put it all together in a way I find useful and beautiful and that free me to just work and enjoy my PC experience instead spending lot of time customizing and tweaking my system.
Thanks both for your advice here and your KDE work, best.
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Replace KDE packages when upgrading?
Hi, should I answer yes to this?
$ yaourt -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community is up to date
archlinuxfr is up to date
:: Replace kdebase-keditbookmarks with extra/kdebase-konqueror? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdebase-nsplugins with extra/kdebase-konqueror? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdegraphics-ksaneplugin with extra/kdegraphics-libs? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer with extra/kdegraphics-libs? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdegraphics-svgpart with extra/kdegraphics-libs? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdegraphics-thumbnailers with extra/kdegraphics-libs? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdemultimedia-libkcddb with extra/kdemultimedia-kioslave? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdemultimedia-libkcompactdisc with extra/kdemultimedia-kioslave? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-icons with extra/kdepim-libkdepim? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-kmailcvt with extra/kdepim-kmail? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-kontactinterfaces with extra/kdepim-kontact? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-ksendemail with extra/kdepim-kmail? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-libkleo with extra/kdepim-libkdepim? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-libkpgp with extra/kdepim-libkdepim? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-libksieve with extra/kdepim-kmail? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-mimelib with extra/kdepim-kmail? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-plugins with extra/kdepim-kmail? [Y/n]
:: Replace kdepim-strigi-analyzer with extra/kdepim-libkdepim? [Y/n]
:: Replace system-config-printer with extra/system-config-printer-common? [Y/n]
Do you want to skip the above package(s) for this upgrade? [Y/n]Yes.
You may see an error with system-config-printer if you are on x86_64, just wait, there is a bug report for that. -
KDE 4.6 beta1 is out now:
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.6-beta1.php
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.6-beta2.php
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.6-rc1.php
http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.6-rc2.php
Packages are ready in [kde-unstable] (please read the wiki page before use it).
Arch Linux changes:
* kdelibs now depends on upower and udisks, this means that HAL is no more required: you can remove hal from your DAEMONS(), but remember to replace it with dbus.
* filelight is replaced by kdeutils-filelight
* kdeutils-okteta is replaced by kdesdk-okteta
* kdegames-ksame is replaced by kdegames-klickety
* kdesdk-kbugbuster has been removed
* new runner for krunner: kdeplasma-addons-runners-events
* kdenetwork-kget is not available because does not build at the moment
* a new kdeplasma-addons-containments package introduces GroupingDesktop
Notes:
* These packages do not work or need a rebuild.
* See known issues
Backup your data before the update!
Please report packaging bugs on http://bugs.archlinux.org
KDE bugs on http://bugs.kde.orgbash wrote:
xheyther wrote:edit : I wrote my feedback to fast. By removing hal I also prevented my system to detect my sound chippset. I don't have sound without hal atm.
Are you using phonon-xine? Please try to switch backend
Well it's weird. I left my computer for a while (and turned id down). After booting, KDE still tell me that it can't find my sound chipset and ask if It should definitively forget it. As I currently listen to some music with firefox, my bet is on a "working sound system with a KDE issue". I'm investigating this issue.
edit: the information you want : switching backends doesn't solve the issue.
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Hi all,
the first beta of the 4.9 series has been released.
As usual, you find the kde packages in the [kde-unstable] repo, which only contains major beta release.
Read install instruction from here.
NOTE: It requires [testing] enabled.
kde-multimedia has been split, so there's no kdemultimedia-kioslave in 4.9, instead you find:
- kdemultimedia-audiocd-kio
- libkcddb
- libkcompactdisc
Packagers should update their deps when 4.9 hits [extra]. In the meantime, this is a list of the packages that need to be rebuilt if you enable [kde-unstable]:
- k3b (replace kioslave with libkcddb to depends)
- audex (replace kioslave with libkcddb, libkcompactdisc to depends)
- kaudiocreator (replace kioslave with libkcddb, libkcompactdisc to depends)
- soundkonverter (replace kioslave with libkcddb to depends)
- tellico (replace kioslave with libkcddb to depends)
Also, there are:
- a new kdebase-runtime dependence: nepomuk-core
- a new game in kdeedu: kdeedu-pairs
- a new kdebase-workspace dependence: kde-base-artwork
- a new runner: kdeplasma-addons-runners-bing
kdesdk-kdeaccounts-plugin, kdesdk-kdepalettes, kdeutils-ksecrets have been removed from the KDE SC.
Please report any bug to our bug tracker[4] for any packaging bug.
KDE bugs go in the upstream bug tracker.
Have a nice update and testing!
Known Issuesmasteryod wrote:
no_originality wrote:
caskale13c wrote:I have not been able to open "Workspace Appearance" in system settings since installing the 4.9 beta. When I click it, System Settings just disappears. Anyone else?
Do you have multi lib qtcurve installed? I removed this and got it working whenever the repo opened.
Confirmed: "Workspace Appearance" in system settings crushing if qtcurve-kde4 is installed. I don't understand what's that multi lib is all about though - qtcurve is in community repo.
yep, same here, thanks for finding out!
Maybe you should report it to bugs.kde.org ?
Last edited by mmm.ai (2012-06-05 10:22:50) -
KDE and kde apps don't started
Couple of days ago i had installed arch32 from arch64 using this how-to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sw … i686_HOWTO, everything works fine except i needed to reinstall man-db & delete libreoffice configuration dir. Yesterday evening i installed kde, and kdm works just fine, but when starting kde the splash window reaches the first icon & crashesh. xinit/slim do that too, also apps wont start.
[root@2xrainbow ~]# dolphin
unnamed app(1832): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
unnamed app(1831): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
[root@2xrainbow ~]# exit
[maki@2xrainbow ~]$ dolphin
unnamed app(1833): Communication problem with "dolphin" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" : " "The name org.kde.dolphin was not provided by any .service files" "
and xinit
[maki@2xrainbow ~]$ xinit /usr/bin/startkde -- :1
X.Org X Server 1.9.4
Release Date: 2011-02-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.37-ARCH i686
Current Operating System: Linux 2xrainbow 2.6.37-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 29 19:40:04 UTC 2011 i686
Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda2 ro
Build Date: 04 February 2011 09:39:45PM
Current version of pixman: 0.20.2
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Wed Feb 16 12:13:35 2011
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Agent pid 1884
startkde: Starting up...
Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
kded(1901): Communication problem with "kded" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" : " "The name org.kde.kded was not provided by any .service files" "
startkde: Shutting down...
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
unset SSH_AUTH_SOCK;
unset SSH_AGENT_PID;
echo Agent pid 1884 killed;
startkde: Done.
xinit: connection to X server lost
waiting for X server to shut downSolved it by changing username, wierd ...
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_username -
KDE 4/KDE 5 (Plasma 5) rewrite
Some work has started on a KDE 4/ Plasma 5 / Plasma rewrite. The reason I personally got involved was that I found the information (particularly about Plasma 5) slightly unclear and confusing as to what was "KDE 5" specific, KDE 4 specific and generally valid. You will find information on the KDE wiki discussion page and at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Chazza/KDE.
This is not intended as spamming a new Wiki rewrite for comments, but as KDE is such a widely used environment, comments on writing it before commiting to it would be very welcome. Thus, comments are invited.
Last edited by Shieldfire (2015-06-07 04:46:13)Try to look for settings in GUI:
System Settings - Wondow Behavior - Window Rules
or
Press ALT+F3 and go to: Advanced - Special Application Settings - Geometry
Also check this:
Press ALT+F3 and go to: Advanced - Special Window Settings - Geometry
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Hi all,
the first beta of the 4.10 series has been released.
As usual, you find the packages in the [kde-unstable] repo, which only contains beta/rc releases.
Read install instruction from here.
NOTE: It requires [testing] enabled.
kde-games has been split, two packages have been renamed
- kdegames-libkdegames -> libkdegames
- kdegames-libkmahjongg -> libkmahjongg
There're two soname bump; this is the list of the packages that you need to
rebuild:
libkipi.so.9 -> libkipi.so.10
libkdcraw.so.21 -> libkdcraw.so.22
- digikam
- kipi-plugins
- calligra-krita
Also, there are:
A new dependence: nepomuk-widgets
A new game: kdegames-picmi
A new print util: kdeutils-print-manager
A new runner: kdeplasma-addons-runners-dictionary
A new set of wallpapers: kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-qmlwallpapers
kdeadmin-system-config-printer-kde, kdeartwork-aurorae, kdeutils-printer-applet have been removed from the KDE SC.
Please report any packaging bug to our bug tracker.
KDE bugs go in the upstream bug tracker.
Have a nice update and testing!
See the list of known issues.Hm, the "desktop widgets" locker isn't really thought through I think. You have to configure it like you would configure a standard plasma desktop, but it seems you can't resize the plasmoids and you have to do it without a window manager... So some text inputs like the city chooser from the weather plasmoid don't work. Also, the folder view for choosing the "dia show" folder is broken, half-transparent white until you right click on the correct spot.
If you forget to lock the widgets on your lock screen it is trivial for someone to find a file chooser and do arbitrarily evil stuff. Also, if any of the plasmoids allows to open a file chooser you loose to. Also, if you use the "dia show" background people just need to right click and they can open a folder view. Also, if you click switch user, the login mask just gets kind of flat and wide and is impossible to recover (I'm even using kdm!).
Killing plasma and kwin recovers your ability to unlock (+1 because even if plasma and kwin crashes the lock screen is still there) but with compositing kwin is at the moment seriously broken, won't let me switch windows correctly and moving windows kind of hangs. I think I need to restart X now...
Nice idea but for a beta it is pretty poorly implemented I think. Feels more like a concept demo. -
Hi all,
it's again time for a new major release of KDE Software Compilation.
The first beta of the 4.13 series has been released.
As usual, you find the packages in the [kde-unstable] repo, which only contains beta/rc releases.
Read install instruction from here.
NOTE: It requires [testing] enabled.
The following packages have been added:
* kfilemetadata
* baloo
* baloo-widgets
* kdeedu-artikulate
* kqtquickcharts
KDE is migrating from Nepomuk to Baloo, because of this, I built KDE without Nepomuk support.
Dolphin, KDEPIM and Gwenview have already been ported to Baloo. It seems that KActivities will not be ported away from Nepomuk in those 4.x releases.
Amarok, KDE-Telepathy, Digikam and more still use Nepomuk, but future releases will not. You can take a look to this list.
Please report any packaging bug to our bug tracker.
KDE bugs go in the upstream bug tracker.
Have a nice update and testing!
Watch the list of known issues.Until recently veromix worked fine but now it doesn't. I think this is the problem:
File "/usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_python/pyappletscript.py", line 22, in <module>
from PyKDE4.plasma import Plasma
RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v11.0 but the PyKDE4.plasma module requires API v10.1
According to their changelog they changed it for their sip v4.15.5 release http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/stati … /ChangeLog
Downgrading sip, python2-sip and python-sip to [extra] brings this:
File "/usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_python/pyappletscript.py", line 20, in <module>
from PyQt4.QtCore import *
RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v10.0 to v10.1 but the PyQt4.QtCore module requires API v11.0
so I guess PyKDE is just lagging behind and everyone else is already using the new thing?
edit: Maybe they made a mistake with their release tarball? I have not tested it, but I got the PKGBUILD from here: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit … e/PKGBUILD and made it build from the kde 4.13 branch of their git repository and it works: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rdjEJ9tU
Well, except for
Error connecting to veromix-service:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.veromix.pulseaudio.qt exited with status 1
But maybe that solves itself after the next kde restart.
edit2: It didn't.
For some reason it doesn't launch some dbus service foobar.
python2 /usr/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/veromix-plasmoid/dbus-service/veromix-service-qt.py
Then it works.
Also, in the last kde update the former issue with pykde got solved I think.
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Hi all,
the first beta of the 4.11 series has been released.
As usual, you find the packages in the [kde-unstable] repo, which only contains beta/rc releases.
Read install instruction from here.
NOTE: It requires [testing] enabled.
There is a soname bump; this is the list of the packages that you need to rebuild:
libkipi.so.10 -> libkipi.so.11
- digikam
- kipi-plugins
- kphotoalbum
Also, there are:
Two new strigi analyzers: kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers (at the moment for torrent only)
A new thumnailers: kdesdk-thumbnailers (at the moment for po files only)
A new runner: kdeplasma-addons-runner-translator.
kdeplasma-addons-applets-kdeobservatory has been removed from the KDE SC.
Please report any packaging bug to our bug tracker.
KDE bugs go in the upstream bug tracker.
Have a nice update and testing!
See the list of known issues.Before upgrading, I was using 4.10.4 with desktop effects enabled (OpenGL 2/Native). After upgrading, only the mouse cursor was displayed and the whole screen is black. There were ghost-like menu animations if I click on the supposed area of the kickoff launcher or hidden notifications. Had to manually killed startkde in a virtual console and select failsafe mode to successfully load the desktop.
Tested that all OpenGL modes are borked with black screen when QT mode is native. Had to change to XRender/Native.
My card is an AMD Radeon 5700M. Even switching to kwin_gles did not work.
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD
OpenGL version string: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 9.1.3
OpenGL shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.0
Driver: R600G
GPU class: EVERGREEN
OpenGL version: 3.0
GLSL version: 3.0
Mesa version: 9.1.3
X server version: 1.14.1
Linux kernel version: 3.9.5
Direct rendering: yes
Requires strict binding: no
GLSL shaders: yes
Texture NPOT support: yes
Virtual Machine: no
kwin(12576) KWin::EglOnXBackend::init: Cannot enable v-sync as max. swap interval is 0
QObject::connect: Cannot connect (null)::resetCompositing() to KWin::Compositor::restart()
kwin(12576): Failed to initialize compositing, compositing disabled
kwin(12576): Consult http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4.0-release-notes#Setting_up
kwin(12576): Render targets aren't supported! -
Hi all,
it's again time for a new major release of KDE.
The first beta of the 4.12 series has been released.
As usual, you find the packages in the [kde-unstable] repo, which only contains beta/rc releases.
Read install instruction from here.
NOTE: It requires [testing] enabled.
Packages changes:
* kdeartwork-sounds has been removed from the KDE SC.
Please report any packaging bug to our bug tracker.
KDE bugs go in the upstream bug tracker.
Have a nice update and testing!
See the list of known issues.kdebase-katepart depends on libkateinterfaces.so.4 which is part of kdesdk-kate
/usr/lib/kde4/katetextfilterplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katekonsoleplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/kateprojectplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katefilebrowserplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katetabbarextensionplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katefiletemplates.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katexmltoolsplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/kategdbplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katemailfilesplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katetabifyplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
/usr/lib/kde4/katebacktracebrowserplugin.so:
libkateinterfaces.so.4 => not found
and
namcap kdebase-katepart-4.11.97-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
kdebase-katepart W: Referenced library 'libkateinterfaces.so.4' is an uninstalled dependency
kdebase-katepart E: Dependency qjson detected and not included (libraries ['usr/lib/libqjson.so.0'] needed in files ['usr/lib/kde4/kateprojectplugin.so'])
any way to do some magic to move libkateinterfaces.so.4 from kdesdk-kate to kdebase-katepart? -
Gimp is unkillable unde KDE + some KDE apps are then blocked
I've never seen such behaviour in my entire linux history, so I'm coming here
Gimp is running fine until I try to close it. Then nothing happens. Foce close dialog do nothing.
Under KDE I'm unable to run krunner, system monitor, konsole as far as I found for now
Goint to TTY, try to log as root...after password I'm just waiting for shell command line..nothing happens
dmesg is interesting: http://pastebin.com/MZkLkE6T
Maybe I should write a bug for this?
Last edited by LukynZ (2015-02-19 18:39:57)LukynZ wrote:Ok, I made a bug report here https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/43902
no news? -
Below is a copy of a post from my blog detailing the apps I used to fully replace KDE. (If you want the hyperlink version you can also read it on my blog.)
A few months ago I dropped Kubuntu and KDE as my desktop and switched to Arch Linux with an Openbox desktop. I've used KDE for years and thought highly of it, but they lost me with KDE 4. But I still had quite a few KDE apps I used in Openbox. With the recent KDE 4.4 update, KDE went from bad to worse, making Akonadi truly required, Nepomuk more troublesome, breaking some of my apps, and other problems. So I decided to drop all KDE dependency. Despite some of the fine KDE apps I still think highly of, like Krusader and Kmail, I simply don't want all the overhead required to run them.
So for the last couple of weeks I've been finding replacements for the last of my KDE apps, particularly Kate, Kmail, Krusader, and k3b. I thought I would share what I found to replace these and other apps, and why I like them. I've written about some of these before but I'll try to make this a fairly complete list in itself. After trying various apps, these are the ones I chose.
Arch Linux
I already wrote about My Big Move To Arch and The Followup. Briefly, I really like the Arch way of doing things. Rolling release means there are no upgrades to do every year. Instead anytime you update packages you get the very latest. Occassionally this will break something. I find it's good to do an update when I'm prepared to spend a few minutes addressing any issues. It's also good to have a system backup. But in general I like fixing things a little at a time, instead of upgrading the whole system as is done with Ubuntu releases. I also like having access to the latest packages, and Arch has a great community build system for apps that aren't included in the official repos. So I'm very happy with Arch and I highly recommend it for anyone reasonably familiar with a distro like Ubuntu who wants to run a more customized, faster system.
Openbox and LXDE
LXDE is a great desktop which includes Openbox as its window manager, and some lightweight apps. You can also just use Openbox by itself and install other components to go with it. You edit XML files to construct your menu and add shortcut keys to do whatever you like, and add any components you want. For example, I use the excellent lxpanel as my taskbar in Openbox. It works and looks a lot like KDE3's taskbar.
Claws
After asking around, I decided to give Claws Mail a try as a replacement for the very capable Kmail. I am extremely pleased with it, and in some ways like it better than Kmail. It has most of Kmail's features. It handles HTML email a bit differently – can't send it, and converts incoming to text. This works pretty well. There is also a plugin that allows you to display HTML email but I haven't tried that – no need. It has very capable filtering, account handling, and a great UI.
Note: If you switch from Kmail, you can transfer your email as follows. Save a copy of your ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail folder. Rename all the mail files in it (using your favorite rename utility) so they have simple names like "001″, "002″, etc. Claws doesn't seem to like the semicolons and such that Kmail uses for filenames. Then, in Claws select File|Add Mailbox and specify the copy of your mail folder. All the mail will appear in Claws – look in the "cur" subfolders for the messages. Drag or copy the messages from there to your Claws mailbox folders. Then you can right-click on the mailbox you added and select Remove Mailbox. All done! Claws can also read the vcard address book format exported by Kmail, or saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc
PCMan File Manager
This FM, which is the default for the LXDE desktop, is the one I finally chose after reviewing a bunch of File Managers. It has support for multiple tabs which I find very useful. It does not have twin-pane like Krusader, but I find that less important, and I didn't care for the other twin-pane FMs I reviewed. One thing I missed in PCMan is user-definable functions. So I have written a mod for PCMan which adds these in a very flexible way, and also fixes a few other issues and bugs I encountered. With that mod in place, I'm very happy with this FM. It is simpler than Krusader, but I didn't actually use most of the functions in Krusader, so it's nice having a cleaner UI. This runs a lot like the Konqueror FM in KDE3. Thunar is also a notable mention – a simpler FM with a clean UI.
Bluefish
This a very Kate-like syntax-highlighting editor. I was very glad to find this editor, with a recently released version 2, because I wasn't sure what I'd find to replace Kate. It has some excellent features and some improvements on Kate as well. It's an almost perfect editor. You might also check out SciTE as another alternative to Kate.
GQView
Similar to Gwenview, GQView is a very capable image viewer. It's folder view is great – actually an improvement on Gwenview in some ways.
ePDFviewer
While not a full replacement for all the functionality of Ocular, I found ePDFviewer to be a nice lightweight app that does all I wanted – it lets me view and print PDF files.
XArchiver
I've already mentioned this replacement for Ark – it does the job.
XPad
A terrific replacement for KNotes – adds sticky notes to your desktop. Very similar to KNotes in functionality and appearance, and minimal dependencies.
ROXTerm
This was my choice to replace Konsole. Has similar features and appearance – came highly recommended on the Arch Forums.
SMPlayer and VLC
My multimedia players, these do the job!
Deluge
After reviewing a few of them, this was my replacement for KTorrent. A vast improvement!
GHex2
GHex is Gnome's hex editor, and it's one the best IMO as a general, easy-to-use hex editor.
gFTP
This gnome FTP client seems to survive on my system. Although I've tried others, I keep coming back to this because it 'just works'.
Speedcrunch
A simple yet powerful desktop calculator.
Graveman
I was planning to use Brasero as my replacement for k3b, but it couldn't use my DVD drive correctly. Graveman, once I gave it the device name "/dev/scd0″ in preferences, does the job. A nice lightweight burning app with almost no dependencies.
Import
Part of Imagemagick, the import command can be used to take desktop snapshots, similar to KSnapshot. It works great. I simply associated the following command with the "Print" key (Printscreen) in Openbox's rc.xml:
bash -c "import /tmp/screenshot-$(date +%s).png"
When I press the PrintScreen key, the mouse cursor changes to a target. I click on the window I want and a snap is written to /tmp. Very slick. Import can do other things like take multiple snapshots, etc.
Zim
I've mentioned Zim before as a personal desktop wiki. I still think its handy but a recent update messed up the theme handling and some other issues. I realized having my notes in plain text format is less volatile, so I've gone back to that. This was easy since Zim mostly uses a plain text format for storage. But Zim may still be worth checking out.
Zenity
Similar to the old KDialog but much more capable, Zenity lets you add GUI dialogs to your scripts. A good guide is here.
With these changes, I was finally able to remove kdelibs and all its junk – soprano, nepomuk, akonadi, strigi, phonon, etc. I am KDE free. To give you an idea of just how bloated and over-dependent KDE has become look what I would have to install just to install a simple file manager like Krusader:
Targets (17): clucene-0.9.21b-1 strigi-0.7.2-1 libiodbc-3.52.7-3
virtuoso-6.1.0-1 soprano-2.4.0.1-1 qca-2.0.2-2
polkit-qt-0.95.1-1 phonon-gstreamer-4.3.80-2 phonon-4.3.80-2
shared-desktop-ontologies-0.2-1 attica-0.1.2-1 kdelibs-4.4.0-4
oxygen-icons-4.4.0-1 rarian-0.8.1-1 libssh-0.4.1-1
kdebase-runtime-4.4.0-3 krusader-2.0.0-3
Total Download Size: 73.75 MB
Total Installed Size: 205.80 MB
Proceed with installation? [Y/n] NO THANKS
So long KDE… have a nice trip becoming a Windows 7 clone.
ps: I'm still looking for a GUI replacement for Filelight, which was great for showing a graphical representation of disk usage. Also, I could use an audio CD ripping app since Graveman doesn't fully replace k3b. Haven't really looked yet but if anyone has a suggestion its appreciated. Thanks.
Last edited by IgnorantGuru (2010-02-23 19:00:51)Labello wrote:i don't really get your point in arguing that some things in KDE changed
I don't mean to dis KDE for everyone - I'm just speaking for myself and my uses. I have a fast system and KDE runs fine in that sense. It has had some RAM and bug issues and certainly isn't lightweight, but that wasn't really my issue. I'm more troubled with their recent choices of servers (akonadi, soprano, phonon, nepomuk, etc), the security issues they introduce, the bugs and interoperability problems, and the wholly unnecessary drain on CPU and RAM. I like to run a leaner, lighter system not just to save resources, but also because I like to know what's running and why, and I like to have control of my system. To me KDE keeps going more toward the Windows direction of isolating the user from control of the system, dictating what has to be running, etc. Many of the so-called dependencies aren't required for most apps at all. Plus, my and other's bug reports are just not addressed in KDE - they've become sloppy, Windows-style, with their code. I see KDE heading in a direction I don't like, and fast. So I wanted to get free of dependency on it so as it goes deeper into that, I can go elsewhere. Took me a bit of work but I've accomplished that. Not only that, I've discovered some great apps in the process - my new system rocks.
You can check out the Library on my blog for my Big Move To Arch post and the followup, which gets more into some of the reasons, and also this thread.
If KDE still works for you and others, great. Lots of choices. I just advise people to be careful with KDE because I think it's getting sneaky and not very pro-user about things. Good to know when to abandon a sinking ship. I think the Ubuntu approach, Gnome, and KDE engender dependencies, in the sense of user dependencies. For example, it took me awhile to move off the KDE platform because so many of the apps I used were in it. I think stand alone apps are a better approach overall. KDE is becoming like a members-only country club - you've got to adopt their complete philosophy just to use any of the KDE apps, or God forbid, the desktop.
Oh and I loathe Plasma. It's everything I DON'T want in a desktop. So KDE just didn't fit me well anymore. -
KDE 4 breaks konqueror in KDE 3
i installed KDE 3.5.10 and then KDE 4
as soon as i installed KDE 4 most buttons on the toolbar in konqueror of KDE 3 disappeared. the commands work from the menu and the toolbar is configured to display the buttons but they are missing
please help me get them back (without removing KDE 3 or 4)
Last edited by ash (2008-12-17 21:20:15)kde 4 was meant to replace kde 3; I would suggest just installing kde 4 from the repos.
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