Keyword Tags as Additive Filters

Hello -
I have keyword tags for years (2001, 2002, 2003, etc) and keyword tags for events (Halloween, Birthdays, etc).
Is there any way to make Photoshop use these keyword tags in tandem to show only those photos that are tagged with all the keywords selected?
For example: I'd like to see all the pictures from Halloween in 2003.
Thanks!
--Michael

Hi Ken,
So sorry to have wasted your time... I just noticed that it wasn't working
because I didn't have any photos from Halloween in 2003...so the program
showed me all the Halloween pictures AND all the 2003 pictures. When I
selected a year for which I had pictures on Halloween , everything worked
exactly as it should.
I truly appreciate your prompt response - thanks!
--Michael

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Please follow the link I posted; they'll be able to help you better over there.
This is the forum for the full version of Photoshop, and it works differently.
Adobe has made the product naming confusing.
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I have a problem with the keyword tags in PSE11.
Problem Statement:
When a keyword tag is selected, the resulting subset of photos includes images that are not tagged with the selected keyword. The non-matched items that are displayed all have a distinguishing symbol – a non-match icon
However this behaviour is inconsistent. There are many other non match photos that are completely suppressed, so why are these ones being displayed with a ‘non-match’ icon?
Steps Taken:
I have tried repairing the catalog. The system tells me there are no inconsistencies but I use the ‘repair anyway’ option to force a repair. This has no effect.
Through the help system I discovered this document:
http://helpx.adobe.com/crx/kb/HowToCheckLuceneIndex.html
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I'm just off fo bed as I am in the UK. I guess you're US maybe West Coast? Let's figure out a time to discuss. 08:00 your time is 4 pm mine if you're on Pacific time.
I'd be delighted if it was a usage error. Let's ne direct and say user error! Because that would be the easiest thing to resolve. But I still remain unconvonced because I am seeing different behaviour between Picasa and PSE. In a further attenpt to solve this issue today PSE 11 I wrote the metadata out to the files to see if that would make any difference to PSE. It did not. And then I let Picasa read that data to see if it did there, and it did not.
I just opened the file info about one of the non match photos that appears when the tag is selected, The same tags appear in the IPTC info as appear on the bottom right corner of the individual phto in the PSE views, and NONE of them isthe major tag that I selected as a filter. Ergo the inclusion must be because of something inherent in the Catalog wouldn't you say? Something related to the data that PSE holds outside the EXIF data. The same filter applied in Picasa does not include these non match images - which would seem to confoirm that it is PSE11-side that teh issue is occuring.
To be clear, I do NOT have the option switched on to show non-match results and I have even toggled that on and off to see if it would make a difference.
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I have tagged multiple images in the organizer with a particular keyword tag. When I do a keyword tag search, many untagged thumbnails appear in the organizer window, in addition to the tagged images I want to see. I have tried the help options, to no avail. What am I doing wrong?

Hi,
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In Photoshop 11, when I create a new Album name or category, do I need to choose "Save Albums to File"? Do I need to do something similar with Keyword tags "Save keyword tags to file"? If I don't do this, would I lose my album names and keyword tags when I upgrade to a new Photoshop program? What about my photo captions? How are those saved? Do I need to select all the photos in the album before I do this?
Also, under File, if I select "Save Metadata to Files", exactly what is saved?
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Most important to understand with the organizer (any version) is that if you want ALL additional information you have added to your catalog to be saved or backed up, and then restored totally, you have to backup your catalog from the organizer menu. Everything is stored in the 'catalog' folder: the catalog itself, a copy of all your media files and a backup.tly file which enables you to restore either on the same location or a new one (new computer, drive, new OS, new OS or PSE version...)
Tripgal wrote:
In Photoshop 11, when I create a new Album name or category, do I need to choose "Save Albums to File"?
No, the wording is misleading. That command only saves the names and properties of your album panel, not the contents, in a text file. You can restore that structure in another album.
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You don't need to if you have a PSE backup, but it may be a good idea, especially if you want to share your tags and ratings with another software (slideshow editor for instance). It's an additional safety measure.
There are three categories of data:
- what is stored automatically in the metadata section of the files (or in .xmp sidecar files) : mostly captions and file 'date original'
- what is stored manually via the 'write metadata to file' command : mainly tags, categories, ratings, notes, captions...
- what can't be stored because it's not information pertaining to individual files : albums, stacks, version sets. That's why you should prefer to use tags instead of albums if you don't need a custom sort order.
As you have seen, you also can save your album structure, and, more important, your tags and categories in text files to copy them in new blank catalogs.

Where did my keyword tags go?

How can I retrieve the keyword tags that did not transfer from my old computer to my new one? They people are listed under "People" but the categoriy and sub-catagories are not listed in the right keyword sidebar.

Neale, sorry, I didn't tell you I have PSE 11. I have a complete
catalog backup of PSE 11 on an external drive. I had a technician do
the transfer of everything from my old computer to the new; the old one
is gone. All the tags came over into the right sidebar except People. I
had created subcategories "Family" and "Friends" under "People." Under
People in the top menu line (Media, People, Places, Events) the people
are all listed, with their tags, including People -- no Family, no
Friends -- so I know they are still tagged, just would like to have the
People listing in the right sidebar like everything else.
Would I have any luck restoring the entire catalog from the backup off
the old computer and ending up with all the tags (for 13,000+ photos)
showing up in the sidebar? Would I lose the 37 photos and 3 videos
taken since the date of the backup?
I'm not very knowledgeable about Photoshop. But since People is one of
its built-in tags, like Places and Events, I don't know how I lost it.
Thanks so much for your response and any additional help you can give.
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Better keywords/tagging

I love Bridge, I use it every day. But it's major weakness for me is the tagging system and filtering by keyword. Right now I'm using Bridge/ACR for my importing, sorting and viewing. But I actually open Windows Live Photo for tagging and filtering by tag.I would rather not use two separate programs for my cataloging workflow. I hope you harvest ideas from the competition for CS6. These are the ways I think Windows Live does it better:
Windows Live
Bridge CS4
One simple, elegant panel for adding keywords, tagging, filtering
2 confusing panels, have to go back and forth
Drag and drop
Annoying checkboxes
Nested tags
Bridge has nested tags as well, but it doesn't do a good job of reading the nested tags I made in Windows Live. It formats them as "places/canada/toronto" rather than a proper checkbox hierarchy. And vice versa, windows live doesn't recognize the Bridge hierarchy. I wish there was consistency.
face recognition, geo tagging
right now it can't even recognize the existing people tags and geo tags, let alone add new ones. Picasa had no problem seeing the ones added in windows live, so it can't just be a proprietary thing

Not an expert on this subject, but before you comit a lot of time on this project in Bridge, explore other options as well, such as digital access management programs.
Bridge is not really set up for Network use although some use it that way. Also, Lightroom and Photoshop Elements stores the keywords in a database, while Bridge stores it on the image. Although I have never used the other programs, it seems lke it would be easier to search.

Restore deleted keyword tags

I screwed up and while I was in Premiere Elements 4.0, I accidently deleted all of the keyword tags that I had set up in Photoshop Elements 6.0. Does anyone know if they can be recovered?
Although I haven't done a backup within Photoshop--maybe I should have?. I do have a completed system backup and could restore the file from there, but I don't know what file it is.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Mike,
The Tag information is stored in the Elements Organizer
b Catalog
Here is a link to an Adobe technical document that discusses info about the PS Elements 6 Catalog (yes its title does refence migrating but there is much more than migration information)
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb402592
Here is an extract of some relevant information
Photoshop Elements 6 stores catalog files by default in the following location:
------------beginning of techdoc extract
Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\Catalogs
Windows Vista: C:\Program Data\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\Catalogs
File extension: Catalog files created by Photoshop Elements 6 use the .PSEDB file extension. Earlier versions of Photoshop Elements used the .PSA file extension.
Database format: Catalog files created by Photoshop Elements 6 uses the SQLite database format. .... Applications that read the SQLite database format are available; however, Adobe does not support or recommend making changes to the database file outside of Photoshop Elements.
------------end of techdoc extract
I suspect that you used the default catalog name and location and that is what is referenced in the text that I extracted from the techdoc.
Continuing with additional relevant information
The default name of the catalog is "My Catalog" (no quotes in actual name). Below the folder shown in the techdoc extract (for XP or for Vista) you should see a folder named
My Catalog
What I would do is to make a copy to save somewhere else of this My Catalog folder as it currently exists - to be kept in case things get worse when you attempt to bring it back from your backuup.
Now there are 2 alternatives
1- bring back that entire My Catalog folder back from your backup to replace the current contents of the entire folder
2- bring only the .psedb file back from the backup and delete all the other files in that My Catalog folder
I would try option 1 first.
If you use option 2, more filles will need to be rebuilt : for example the entire thumbnail cache would need to be rebuilt and depending on how may photos, videos, etc are in the catalog that could take awhile. So I would use option 2 only if option 1 resulted in some problems.
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Copy File From One Drive to Another & Missing Keyword Tags

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I use LR 2.7. I want to copy one file from one drive to another drive with the same file name. I thought you could drag the file, but it doesn't copy over the file in the other drive, can you explain what I have to do?
Also, I tried to import the folder into another drive, but it doesn't copy the keyword tags. Is there a way to do this?
Thanks
Barb

Hey Barb,
Well, if you use the Year/Month/Day/pictures_here format, none of the folders contains a massive amount of folders. It's not the number of folders that generates problems, it's having them all in _one_ folder that creates slow-down issues. Imagine if you had a deck of cards; look for one card... you have to go through all 52 cards to find it. But, if you broke it down into the 4 groups, you only have to go through 13, which is lots faster. Now imagine going through 15000 instead of 52...
Look at the way lightroom can automatically import by date; it has several preset formats. If you pick one of those, then when you import new photos, it will automatically create any missing ones, and you have lots less to do.
Depending on how much work you have already done, you might consider making a new catalog and just importing all of your photos again, and let it create everything quickly for you.
You could save all of your "edit" changes by writing out all of the xmp files first. But with 15000 files in one directory, this will double it to 30000 (one per image!), but will preserve all of your edits if you choose to make a new catalog approach.
As for combing catalogs, once you have one catalog the way you want it, you can select "import from catalog" and it will suck it into a new one, thus combining the catalogs. The only problem I can see is that it will import it in the format you already have it, so you have to organize it manually before you import it. Otherwise, you'll get your old format and your new format in the one catalog (but can then move pictures around if you need to).
Personally, I'd go the 'write xmp files, create new catalog' approach. Then just recreate my collections, etc.
But either way you do it, it will take some time processing, as that's a lot of files to start with!
Ciao!
Jason

Keyword tags text box poorly designed, crashes PSE 8

I was very interested to see that PSE 8 allows you to enter keyword tags using a text box, as other programs do, promising much faster tagging with large sets of tags. But the feature has serious bugs rendering it unusable.
After trying the keyword-tags text box for less than a minute on my large catalog with 426 tags, PSE 8 crashed.    Even with a fresh catalog and the default tag categories, it will crash after using the text box about 40 times.   (See below for a recipe.)
Another bug concerns tags with commas in them, e.g. "Truckee, CA" (I have a couple hundred such Place tags). If you type "Tru" in the text box, select the tag with the mouse, and hit enter, PSE 8 will create two new tags, Truckee and CA, in the Other category, and apply them to the photo.
A design misfeature: After you select and apply a tag with the text box, it loses the keyboard focus. So to select another tag for the same photo, you have to move your hand to the mouse and click in the text box again. Partially defeats the whole purpose.
Recipe for reproducing the bug:
1. Create a new catalog.
2. Import 50 photos.
3. Select the next photo.
4. In the keyword tag text box, type "p" and then enter.
5. Go to step 3.
On the 40th or 41st photo, my PSE 8 reliably crashes (Vista 32, 4 GB of memory).   If after step 1 you use the Keyword Tags > + > From File command to load a tag heirarchy of 210 tags (see the attached file), it will crash after just 9 photos.   And with 426 tags, it crashes after 5 photos.
Interestingly, on my Vista 64 system (unsupported by Adobe, 8 core x 2.7 GHz), PSE 8 doesn't crash, but the text box gets unusably slow very quickly. WIth 210 keyword tags in the catalog, it soon takes about 12 seconds to find a tag after you type a unique prefix.   That time gradually gets longer the more you use the text box. With 426 tags, it takes almost 20 seconds to apply a tag using the text box.
On both systems, it's clear what the nature of the bug is: Each time you use the text box, the process's memory grows by many megabytes. I believe my Vista 64 system doesn't crash (at least not immediately) because it provides 3.5 GB of memory for use by PSE 8, while Vista 32 only provides about 1.5 GB.
I'm getting a sinking feelilng...

Is the white triangle to the left of "Keyword Tags" pointing down or pointing to the right? See this screen shot:
Click on the white triangle -- does that make a difference?
If not, try deleting the Organizer's preferences:
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#Delete_the_Organizers_prefe rences

Keyword Tags Won't Delete

I am using Lightroom 1.4.1 on a Vista platform. When I delete keyword tags they disappear temporarily, only to reappear later. I have tried the Purge Unused Keywords function and I have tried to right click the keyword and select Delete. In all cases they seem to be deleted, but reappear later. I have removed the keywords in question from any photos they were applied to, so all the keywords that I'm trying to delete show 0 images. Here is a sample of the keywords: <component; <place; <worklist. Could the "<" sign in the keyword name be the problem? I have tried to rename the keywords, thus removing the "<" from the name, but they still keep coming back. Some more info which may be important in resolving this. These keyword names appear to have been created by Lightroom itself of Photoshop CS3 (V10.0). I originally had keywords enclosed in brackets, eg <place>. When I edited the images with the Develop module and Photoshop, once I returned to the Library module the edited image would have the system created keyword, eg <place (without the closing bracket). In other words I now had two keywords for the same thing: <place> and <place.

Tried the throw away top level key word idea as you suggested, but it didn't resolve the problem. I also deleted the 'dud' keywords from Bridge and Windows Photo Gallery and then went back to Lr and tried the suggestion again. It still didn't work. There are 3 dud keywords that keep reappearing in Windows Photo Gallery, despite having been deleted. It's amazing how all but three seem to have gone for good from Windows Photo Gallery. What makes the three persistent ones special, I have no idea.
What's puzzling is that once I've deleted the dud keywords and then export my keywords to a text file, the text file is 'clean'; like they've gone from Lr. However, when they reappear and I export my keywords again to a text file, they show up in the text file.
It like they're hiding away in the image files or some database in such a way that I can't access them and when I edit or rename a 'good' keyword it causes Lr to re-read the image file or database and import the keywords. This, despite that fact that none of the dud keywords show up in the metadata for any of my images as displayed by Lr; eg in the Keywording panel on the right. They also no longer show up in Bridge or Windows Photo Gallery (except for 3). Furthermore, all the dud keywords show '0' for the number of images they're assigned to.
By the way, I've also tried the Purge Unused Keywords function to no avail.

A question about keyword tags

Is it possible in settings... or somewhere, to set it so that when you open (PrE9's) organizer instead of starting with keyword hierarchy list - it could open on keyword cloud view? I am not so keen on the hierrarchy method...
Thanks.
brush

I did some experimenting in the Elements 9 Organizer.
1-- yes, when you close the Organizer then it does always seem to come up next time with the Thumbnail grid AND the Tags panel on the right is set to Hierarchy view. Then you must click on the icon for Cloud view.
2-- my conclusion is that if I click on the Cloud icon after starting the Organizer, then it was staying as Cloud in the Keyword Tags panel to the right of the Thumbnails for the duration that the Organizer is open.
3-- Note that if you use Full Screen for viewing your photos, then for the "Quick Organize" panel that drags out from the left side of the screen near the bottom, the default for Keyword Tags is Cloud. This is a different method of working which you may or may not like: however since it does set Cloud I decided to mention it.
FYI - to get to Full Screen you can use the pull down menu for the Display icon (that is next to the House icon on the top bar of the main Organizer screen). Choose the option "View, Edit, Organize in Full Screen". FYI - I usually select the thumbnails of the photos which I want to Organize before I go in to Full Screen.

Currently have 30K pics on PC Win. 7 laptop using PSE 8, corrected issues and did full backup on portable hard drive plus saved (Extensive) Keyword tags to file. Installed PSE 13 on PC Win 8.1 laptop. Will attach same portable Hard drive to new laptop.

Currently have 30K pics on PC Win. 7 laptop using PSE 8, corrected issues and did full backup on portable hard drive plus saved (Extensive) Keyword tags to file. Installed PSE 13 on PC Win 8.1 laptop. Will attach same portable Hard drive to new laptop. How do I import prev Keyword Tags from file and Restore catalog from port. HD to new PC and in what order? I have not opened PSE 13 on new PC yet. Would like to do it right the first time!

No importing needed.
See these instructions: Use Backup, Restore to move catalog | Organizer | Elements 6 or later

Use of Keyword tags in shared photo files

Let's suppose, first off, that I have assigned person keyword tags to most of the photos in my catalog. Let us also suppose that I have explicitly written those tags to the photo files. Now, I would like to be able to share both the files and the keyword tags with family and friends so that they too can easily access files taken in a specific location or including a specific person. Short of buying a copy of PSE 9 for each (an act of generosity I can not afford), how do I share the information about these photos in a way that is accessible to someone not dedicated to, say, writing XSL code or something equally elaborately mind boggling?
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OK, I'm a certified idot! I found the tag button, and all of the tags are there, Admittedly without spaces, but they work nicely.
Again, Thanks

To be able to Export Keyword Tags to Excel or as a CSF file

I am using PSE 10 in Windows 7 environment. Have thousands of photos and hundreds of Keyword tags and many Categories and Sub-Categories.
It would be nice to have these Tags & Categoris names in an Excel file (or, comma separated text file) that I can use to easily see what Tags I have so that I don't create new tags with slightly different names. Such an easy-to-access and mange Excel file will be very helpful, I think, to the overall cration and management of Tags.
I have done quite a bit of research on the web and also in PSE forum, but have not found any ways to do this.
Is this possible? Sure would appreciate any help and ideas.
Thank you so much.

Thank you all for your help. I have solved my problem - with your help. Solution was simple:
Save the Keyword Tags as the XML file from the drop down arrow options of the Keyword Tags. Saved it on desktop - but I guess you can save it anywhere you want. Opened MS Excel. Click File/ Open and Selected the XML file saved earlier. In the Dialogue Box that opens up, selected the "As an XML table" option. In the next dialogue box, showing "The specified XML source does not refer to a schema. Excel will create schema based on the XML source data.", clicked OK button.
Excel now creates the table and it filles the schema as the Column names. I deleted the columns that I don't need - most of these are values expressed in hex or some other numbering system. I kept FIVE columns that have the Keyword Category and the Tags names -
tagset-item-value-name
tagset-item-value-name3
tagset-item-value-note
tagset-item-value-name6
tagset-item-value-note8
Now I can play with them as I need - sort, resquence, print, etc.
Hope this helps others. And, again, thank you for your help.

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