Leave approval through Position Hierarchy

Hi All,
I have requirement regarding Leave approval which I want to perform through position hierarchy despite of immediate supervisor, can any body tell me the step where I can perform this through AME?
Regards,

You don't have to use the supervisor hierarchy. By using an AME rule, you can return the approver list using a wide range of logic. You can make use of the position hieracrhy, or you could choose to have an approver group based on some other logic. You will need to make sure that your transaction type (self service HR) has access to the appropriate action type (e.g. position hierarchy) to do this.
Regards
Tim

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We have re-engineered the current Position and Job Flexfield set-up, basically an additional segment in the Position FF and hiding a segment in Job FF. Adn the employee will be assigned to a one level high in the organization. So basically, employee will be assigned to a new org as well.
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need to approved all the outstanding PO that requires approval, before moving the employees to the new assignment?
If we dont do that, will there be any implications or will it cause any problems moving forward.
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However saying that, its tough to answer your question without knowing more detail of the changes. If the original approval related data structures remain in place and you haven't changed the workflow definition, then the in process workflows may be okay to complete assuming the new positions the employees are moved to still allow the "Find Approver" function to execute correctly... not sure about the organization part...
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Please suggest me the best possible way to map the leave approval matrix for ESS.
we had a plan to prepare our leave approval matrix based on "Position". Just wanna know Is it the right way to figure out the Leave approval matrix. Initially We received a suggestion to prepare the Leave approval matrix with Employee number but by seeing the attration rate/separation/inter org.unit transfer etc., It'll be very difficult to maintain the post seperation data maintenance.
We had maintained a unique position id for each position(at present), If in near feauture if the same piece of task is assign to two person, we'll descriminate through there entry date(i.e. date of confirmation/Date of Joining).
IS it the right way of doing it. Seeking expert suggestion.
Thanks for your continuous support.
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Assume:
A and B are the two managers having same designations (Manager purchase)
C and D are the two employee have same designation (purchase supervisor)
Purchase supervisor are reporting to purchase manager.
We are using positon hierarchy for approvals in HRSS
leave of absence requests generated by C and D will go to only manager or will be going to both manager. What will be the approval process when their are more than one persons at same desigation.
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Dear user13056460,
your query is very obvious you have a position type pooled and two employees are assigned to this position where in the hierarchy it shows two holder, if you want my opinion let each clerk have his own unique position as Clerk LA and CLerk DC by this you will not go through the headache of having two hierarchies and if youre having two hierarchies you need also to enable the document type (can change approval path option) the workflow engine by your scenario will get lost because two individuals have the same position so it will go to only one, options youre having
1- let the postion with a two holder but enable the users to select approval path and employee while submiting PO's
2- give each clerk a unique position name which is easier.
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Ammar M. GhazalehAmmar,
That is what we have the requirment..
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For 2 clerks here..we created say 100.Purchase Clerk as Job and position as 200.Purchase clerk
for the second clerk it has same job as 100.Purchase Clerk as Job and position as 200.Purchase clerk1
(we changed a bit)
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one clerk reports to dept head..
so while in hierarchy dept has total 3 sub ordinates and when we drill down manager has 1 sub ordinates..
which makes sense...
i created approval groups also...and assignments too..
but when the newly created clerk logins and when he forwards documents..he is not seeing the default heiarchy..we have set this up in documents types..
and the second old clerk he is seeing this when he is forwading documents for approval..
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My query is there any standard work flow available in HR module for Leave approval and Over time approval. We have negative time management and with out ESS and MSS.
Pl suggest if any one has used this earlier with out ESS or EP
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I can think of the following but not without enhancement for the workflow part.
- Since you are not using ESS, you (leave admin) may create the absence record directly in IT2001 (in LOCK mode).
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OT is the same, except that you need to use 2007 vs 2002
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Actually I was using standard task , TS12300097 for leave approval. It was working fine from SAP worklist from portal. If someone tries to approve from SAP R/3 it was providing an information like, this cannot be executed from SAP R/3.
I had a requirement to add certain custom fields information to the task description, so I copied and created a new task similar to that and added the containers and filled the description to that. Then i cofigured the new task in SWFVISU also. It working fine from enterprise portal sap worklist.
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We are changing our Leave Request workflow, and I also came across this problem while testing.
In our situation, the problem is that we changed the approval task. We used to have it as a call to report RPTARQAPP, but then changed back to the standard method of calling CL_PT_REQ_WF_ATTRIBS DUMMY.
For us, it is only the old work items that go into error if the user tries to execute them in R/3. If the workflow is then re-started, the item is once again available and can be processed in the UWL. New work items come back with the pop-up message "The request cannot be started from the Business Workplace", like in the standard workflow.
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Hi,
We have created a position hierarchy. While defining the hierarchy, for a position, which is secondary assignment for a person, is visible.
However, when we create PO and forward to, the person whose secondary position is in hierarchy, is not coming in forward to list.
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I understand, what you are looking forward is an Enhancement request
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1351979: APPROVAL WORKFLOW TO ALLOW SECONDARY ASSIGNMENT IN POSITION HIERARCHY
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