Loan Enhancement - repayment and interest pay seperately.

Hi Friends,
I have an requirement, whereby the employees will repay the principal first; when the principal is cleared, then repay the total interest accumulated in the previous repayment periods.
For example, employee took a loan of Rs. 50,000 @ 7.5% simple interest for the period of 10 months. Hence, every month of repayment would be 5000 and interest say Rs. 200 (just for example). Now, system will clear employee principal amount, once it is got cleared it will pay interest.
So far I know, we have to activate one Badi for generating repayment plan and feature ,Modify Interest Calculation and Interest Repayment,
Can anyone help me out to elaborate in detail.
Regds,
Supriya

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