Logic board and third party ram upgrade on Macbook

I bought a new macbook about a month ago and the only change i made to it was to install third party ram myself. The logic board broke on Friday. Apple was kind of enough to replace the logicboard for free even though I had third party ram in there which they said violated the warranty. I called other world computing where I bought the ram and they said there was no way the ram could be the cause of the logicboard failure even if I installed the ram wrong. Is this true?
My real question is what do I do now for upgrading my ram. Do I buy mac ram and pay the extra money or can I use third party ram and not have to worry about it causing damage to my system? Whatever the resolution I don't want to void the warranty in any way.

*"which they said violated the warranty."*
What they told you there is a load of crap. Installing RAM does not void the warranty. Even the RAM that Apple installs is from a third party.
*"can I use third party ram and not have to worry about it causing damage to my system?"*
Yes

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So with the Mac Pro out, my preferred RAM source, OWC (aka MacSales) stocked up on day one.
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(Note the heat sink design)
I thought "Great, they already have RAM for it, so when I eventually get one I wont have to pay the enormous amount Apple charges for some reason." But then I saw this little note on the the online Apple Store:
Please note: Apple created a more robust thermal specification for the Mac Pro FB-DIMM heat sinks that provide more efficient cooling than many other FB-DIMMs. These FB-DIMMs require less airflow to stay cool and allow the internal fans to spin at slower speeds, improving system acoustics. FB-DIMMs made by other manufacturers that do not include a sufficient heat sink may cause the fans to run faster (and louder) or the memory chips to run slower so as not to overheat.
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So are they saying that an FB-DIMM without a heat sink or one good enough is not approved, or that their design is most likely the only that will work well? Compare the two heat sink designs and imagine the airflow on them.
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Well, does this mean that we are better off only getting RAM from Apple for now until the third parties can extensively prove they are worthy?
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At some point the 3rd parties will get their heatsinks right and we'll all be in business… that you can be sure of.
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*"which they said violated the warranty."*
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*"can I use third party ram and not have to worry about it causing damage to my system?"*
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Well, the upgraded RAM worked properly for 5 months straight. I don´t think it is a problem of dirt on the contacts or improper seating. Having the RAM not working properly the same day I want to update the OS, without touching it would be too much of a coincidence I think.
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If I increase my laptop ram to third party ram my warranty affected or not

Hii,
I am Ved from India (Delhi). I have purchase Hp 2230tx laptop in Jan'2013, Its ram is 2gb thats is too low according to my usage.
But i have 4gb extra third party ram. If I install this ram in my laptop, "MY LAPTOP WARRANTY AFFECTED OR NOT".
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No, upgrading the RAM will not void the warranty of your notebook. The RAM you install will have it's own warranty and will not be covered by HP.
If you have to send the notebook in for repair, they will require the original RAM be installed.

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