Looks good in FCE but DVD looks bad
Hi Guys hope you can help, Have FCE, imports from sony handycam , everything looks good and tight in FCE but when exported to iDVD the finished product looks terrible, hard to describe but looks blurry, almost a ghosting to motion shots, this doesn't do it when I burn from iMovie, I've tried different setups in easy setup with no luck, However I did ( out of frustration) export back to tape and then import into iMovie and then burned from there and it looked much better, please help, thank you
Thank you for responding so quickly, I'm not sure what you require for spec on the Mac but it's a Mac Pro with Hardware Overview:
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
OS isMac OS X 10.5.4, FCE is version 4, Quicktime is version 7.5, iMovie is version 7.1.4
Sony camcorder is DCR-SR42( 1/6 type) CCD 680,000 pixels, this is a non-tape type, internal harddrive. Note: I also have a Sony DCR TRV 310 tape type that FCE does see and able to control, Clip info says Compressor = DV/DVCPRO- NTSC Data rate = 3.6MB/sec
FCE doesn't see the Sony DCR-SR 42 camcorder when I connect ( via USB) but iMovie does, so I download into iMovie, clips come in as a .mov, clip info says 720x480, FCE clip info says : Creator =Quicktime Player, Compressor= Apple MPEG-2 SD camcorder Video, Data rate=1.2MB/sec, Frame size= 720x480, Vid Rate= 29.97 fps.
So files in iMovie, I open FCE and import files from iMovie , tried using the XLM export from iMovie and it does work however after doing compared testing on test DVD the imported files looked better than the XLMs. I have the easy setup using the DV-NTSC as that's the only one that comes close to what I'm using, same goes for when I export, I export using the Quicktime export with self contained off.
I have iDVD set to professional encoding, (ya I know , iDVD not that professional) when final burn is done and played on a DVD player on a LCD the finished video is really low resolution quality, the content is of a football game ( my sons) using tripod of coarse, but the images are rough, blockly, looks like really bad codec or wrong codec or wrong conversion type or too much compression. I have done other DVD's with iMovie from tape camera that look alot better than what I'm getting from FCE, Please help, what I'm I doing wrong, thank you
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Title says it all really. I have FCE 4 and over the weekend I picked up a Canon HF-200 (PAL UK version). I am sort of impressed by the quality of the camera - I will probably post about that soon - but I have a real issue with 'Export to Quicktime' (the uncompressed MOV file).
I have the 'easy setup' set so that its 1080i50. I used Log and transfer. I dragged a couple of clips onto the sequence (which looks great - perfect playback on the Viewer etc), saved the project, chose to Export the sequence. It gave me a huge file as expected but its jerky and pixelated during movement. A similar test with 25p clips worked fine - the Quicktime Movie looks as it did on the viewer.
Any ideas?Hi,
I also get the same problem. Just bought Canon HF 200 1080i50 European PAL model.
And i've filmed a bunch of test videos 50i fps and 25p fps.
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but
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Still a problem after 7.0.1:
DV camera -> iMovie 08 -> looks bad when playing and exporting/sharing
DV camera -> iMovie 08 -> "reveal in finder" -> clip opened in QuickTime -> looks good -> export as H.264 -> re-import to iMovie 08 -> looks good when playing and exporting/sharing.
In plain words: Importing DV clips from my DV camera into iMovie gives bad results when playing and exporting/sharing. Have tried everything, but the clips look blurry and not sharp at all. The actual DV clip in the events folder looks sharp and clear.
If I take the very same DV clip from the events folder ("reveal in finder"), open it in QuickTime, export it as H.264 and then re-import to iMovie 08, it looks brilliant, retaining the quality the DV clip in the events folder has.
Why can't the DV clips look good in the first place? What is it that iMovie 08 does to these poor clips? Some have suggested re-encoding, re-rendering and so on, but if I do just that in QuickTime and re-import it to iMovie 08, it still looks razor sharp and crystal clear. No reason that iMovie 08 shouldn't handle the DV file in the same manner.
Some have suggested that this is because iMovie 08 internally re-encodes to AIM or H.264, enabling edits with different kinds of formats, but if I do this myself in QuickTime before importing to iMovie 08, the problem isn't there!
If this is difficult to achieve, why not add the option of importing from a DV camera as H.264 and not DV? That would make my day!
(I have posted this to Apple using the feedback menu item in iMovie 08.)
(Background here in these threads:)
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1088568
Sample clips in Apple TV format here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5173005iMovie '08 stores rendered projects in H.264 form. This happens when you render to the Media Browser. The rendered file(s) (you can have several different sizes) are in the iMovie '08 project package. The original flies in your Events folders stay in whatever format they were in.
Yes, the movies exported to the Media Browser use the H.264 format, the same as iMovie HD 5/6 did when we exported using the presets Email, Web, Web Streaming and CD-ROM. They were all H.264 too. Apple is obviously putting the (powerful) H.264 to good use to prepare movies for Web pages and other purposes.
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So I think of iMovie 7 as having no "native" format, but a nicely-designed path for using H.264 as the delivery format. The Media Browser — a virtual library of movies with no shared place — is a nice invention.
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I think of iMovie 7's problem with DV as more profoundly flawed. Exporting ANY DV video that's in the project to DV or ANY OTHER format is messed up. It's the handling of the DV inside iMovie that's messed up, not just the export to DV.
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Subject : Slideshow looks bad
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By Douglas Toltzman"
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