Lync 2013 Hosting Pack - cannot join external non federated meetings anonymously with desktop client

Hello,
I Have a setup of LHP 2013. We have been testing federation and connections to external on-premises meetings.
Right now users with lync desktop client (2013 and patched) cannot connect to external 3rd party meetings without using the ?SL=1 and using the Wep App.
Desktop Client gives error on log file:
ms-user-logon-data: RemoteUser
Authentication-Info: TLS-DSK qop="auth", opaque="58FBAFA0", srand="0B8651AD", snum="15", rspauth="b63e033e6376b48ec973718f7369e3b90b0d75ba", targetname="lyncfe2.hoster.fi", realm="SIP Communications
Service", version=4
Content-Length: 0
Via: SIP/2.0/TLS 172.20.10.7:49680;received="public.ip";ms-received-port=55863;ms-received-cid=48400
From: "cloud.testuser"<sip:[email protected]>;tag=8f59b0fb81;epid=c7d2e31185
To: <sip:[email protected];gruu;opaque=app:conf:focus:id:5P20J0SK>;tag=C258840F87FD8713D4ADE01307F32C5B
Call-ID: 386e091eb7794fb286b858984349fccd
CSeq: 1 INVITE
ms-diagnostics: 27000;reason="To-Uri Domain is not in the sender-tenant allow list";source="LYNCFE2.hoster.fi";appName="OutgoingFederation"
Server: OutgoingFederation/5.0.0.0
From some old post I have read that was a bug in Lync client that did not allow fail-back to anonymous login with non-federated lync organization, but this has been fixed long ago.
If I do setup a federation beetween the organizations the meetings connect ok.
Thanks for help!
BR, Jouni 

Hi Johan,
Lync client in test has been fully updated.
I Think I found what was causing this. In my tests, I added and removed domains from allowed and blocked domains list, in tenant config.
First after tenant organization has been provisioned the AllowedDomains looks like this:
Get-CsTenantFederationConfiguration -Tenant 10828ff2-165d-440f-9c00-6ce374ff0c6d
Identity              : Global
AllowedDomains        : Microsoft.Rtc.Management.WritableConfig.Settings.Edge.AllowAllKnownDomains
BlockedDomains        : {}
AllowFederatedUsers   : True
AllowPublicUsers      : True
SharedSipAddressSpace : False
And joining to non-federated meetings works correctly.
After fiddling with the allowed and blocked domains settings (adding and removing domains) settings look like this:
Identity              : Global
AllowedDomains        : Microsoft.Rtc.Management.WritableConfig.Settings.Edge.AllowList
BlockedDomains        : {}
AllowFederatedUsers   : True
AllowPublicUsers      : True
SharedSipAddressSpace : False
When I check what the "AllowList" keeps in, it is empty as it should:
$tenant = Get-CsTenant | Where-Object {$_.Name -eq "tenantname"}
$x = Get-CsTenantFederationConfiguration -Tenant $tenant.TenantId
$x.AllowedDomains
AllowedDomain : {}
If I set the AllowedDomain backup to original form meeting connections begin to work.
$all = New-CsEdgeAllowAllKnownDomains
Set-CsTenantFederationConfiguration -Tenant 10828ff2-165d-440f-9c00-6ce374ff0c6d -AllowedDomains $all
But now im just not very sure how I should setup the federation settings as per tenant/ExternalAccesspolicy/AccessEdgeConfiguration.. hmm..
BR, Jouni

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    2014-03-07 08:19:36.206 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO UI CMConversationCommon.mm/43:not signed in
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.206 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO UI CMConversationCommon.mm/43:not signed in
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.595 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpConnection.cpp/577:Received kCFStreamEventEndEncountered (UcwaAutoDiscoveryRequest)isHeadersAvailable = true  responseHeadersHandle = 58b1930
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.596 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpConnection.cpp/651:Response status = 200 for request UcwaAutoDiscoveryRequest
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.597 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpStreamPool.cpp/455:Scheduling stream 0x58812c0 for release.
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.597 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO TRANSPORT CHttpRequestProcessor.cpp/173:Received response of request(UcwaAutoDiscoveryRequest) with status = 0x0
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.598 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO TRANSPORT TransportUtilityFunctions.cpp/925:<ReceivedResponse>
    GET https://lyncdiscover.domain.org/?sipuri=sip:[email protected]
    Request Id: 0x11d4988
    HttpHeader:Cache-Control no-cache
    HttpHeader:Connection keep-alive
    HttpHeader:Content-Length 1025
    HttpHeader:Content-Type application/vnd.microsoft.rtc.autodiscover+xml; v=1
    HttpHeader:Date Fri, 07 Mar 2014 08:19:34 GMT
    HttpHeader:Expires -1
    HttpHeader:Pragma no-cache
    HttpHeader:Server nginx/1.4.1
    HttpHeader:StatusCode 200
    HttpHeader:X-AspNet-Version 4.0.30319
    HttpHeader:X-Content-Type-Options nosniff
    HttpHeader:X-MS-Server-Fqdn KPPLYN04.ad.domain.org
    HttpHeader:X-Powered-By ASP.NET
    Ôªø<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><AutodiscoverResponse xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" AccessLocation="External"><Root><Link
    token="Domain" href="https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/Autodiscover/AutodiscoverService.svc/root/domain?originalDomain=domain.org" /><Link token="User" href="https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/Autodiscover/AutodiscoverService.svc/root/user?originalDomain=domain.org"
    /><Link token="Self" href="https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/Autodiscover/AutodiscoverService.svc/root?originalDomain=domain.org" /><Link token="OAuth" href="https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/Autodiscover/AutodiscoverService.svc/root/oauth/user?originalDomain=domain.org"
    /><Link token="External/XFrame" href="https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/Autodiscover/XFrame/XFrame.html" /><Link token="Internal/XFrame" href="https://ly13webpool.ad.domain.org/Autodiscover/XFrame/XFrame.html"
    /><Link token="XFrame" href="https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/Autodiscover/XFrame/XFrame.html" /></Root></AutodiscoverResponse>
    </ReceivedResponse>
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.599 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO TRANSPORT CUcwaAutoDiscoveryResponse.cpp/119:location value is external
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.600 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO TRANSPORT CUcwaAutoDiscoveryResponse.cpp/195:User url is https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/autodiscover/autodiscoverservice.svc/root/user?originaldomain=domain.org
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.601 Lync[1615:74c6000] INFO TRANSPORT CHttpRequestProcessor.cpp/266:Sending event to main thread for request(0x11d4988)
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.602 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO APPLICATION CTransportRequestRetrialQueue.cpp/822:Req. completed, Stopping timer.
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.602 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO APPLICATION CUcwaAutoDiscoveryGetUserUrlOperation.cpp/290:Received a root response
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.602 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO APPLICATION CUcwaAutoDiscoveryGetUserUrlOperation.cpp/224:UcwaAutoDiscoveryGetUserUrlOperation completed with url = https://lyncdiscover.domain.org/?sipuri=sip:[email protected], userUrl = https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/autodiscover/autodiscoverservice.svc/root/user?originaldomain=domain.org,
    status = S_OK (S0-0-0)
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    2014-03-07 08:19:36.604 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO TRANSPORT CTransportThread.cpp/163:Added Request(UcwaAutoDiscoveryRequest) to Request Processor queue
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.604 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO APPLICATION CUrlRedirectAndTrustResolver.cpp/610:UrlRedirectAndTrustResolver complete with url = http://lyncdiscover.domain.org/, Hops = 1, status = W_Cancelled (W0-0-6)
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    (W0-0-6)
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    privateKey.empty() (1) compatibleServiceIds(1)
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    2014-03-07 08:19:36.607 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO APPLICATION CTransportRequestRetrialQueue.cpp/385:Submitting new req. GET-AuthenticatedUserGetRequest(0x11e6bf8)
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.608 Lync[1615:6081000] WARNING TRANSPORT CCredentialManager.cpp/317:CCredentialManager::getSpecificCredential returning NULL credential for serviceId (4) type (1)!
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.608 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO APPLICATION CUcwaAutoDiscoveryService.cpp/1194:Submitting Authenticated AutoDiscovery request to https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/autodiscover/autodiscoverservice.svc/root/user?originaldomain=domain.org
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    GET https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/autodiscover/autodiscoverservice.svc/root/user?originaldomain=domain.org
    Request Id: 0x1124488
    HttpHeader:Accept 
    HttpHeader:X-MS-WebTicket xxxxxxxxxx
    </SentRequest>
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    2014-03-07 08:19:36.610 Lync[1615:3bc6218c] INFO APPLICATION CUcwaAutoDiscoveryService.cpp/1690:Request url was http://lyncdiscover.domain.org/?sipuri=sip:[email protected]
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.610 Lync[1615:6081000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpStreamPool.cpp/409:Allocating stream 0x58bf6c0 for url - https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/autodiscover/autodiscoverservice.svc/root/user with persistent id as 15
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.610 Lync[1615:6081000] VERBOSE TRANSPORT CHttpProxyHelper.cpp/436:CHttpProxyHelper::discoverProxy : No proxy found for url https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/autodiscover/autodiscoverservice.svc/root/user?originaldomain=domain.org. Sending over
    direct connection.
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.941 Lync[1615:6081000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpConnection.cpp/577:Received kCFStreamEventEndEncountered (0x%u0x104bc00)isHeadersAvailable = true  responseHeadersHandle = 58b6bd0
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.942 Lync[1615:6081000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpConnection.cpp/651:Response status = 401 for request 0x%u0x104bc00
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.943 Lync[1615:6081000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpConnection.cpp/718:Not send authenticating request(0x%u0x104bc00).  isAuthObjectValid - 0, areCredentialsValid - 0, resendRequestCounter - 1
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.943 Lync[1615:6081000] INFO UTILITIES CHttpStreamPool.cpp/455:Scheduling stream 0x58bf6c0 for release.
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.943 Lync[1615:6081000] INFO TRANSPORT CHttpRequestProcessor.cpp/173:Received response of request() with status = 0x0
    2014-03-07 08:19:36.944 Lync[1615:6081000] INFO TRANSPORT TransportUtilityFunctions.cpp/925:<ReceivedResponse>
    GET https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/autodiscover/autodiscoverservice.svc/root/user?originaldomain=domain.org
    Request Id: 0x1124488
    HttpHeader:Cache-Control no-cache
    HttpHeader:Connection keep-alive
    HttpHeader:Content-Length 1293
    HttpHeader:Content-Type text/html
    HttpHeader:Date Fri, 07 Mar 2014 08:19:35 GMT
    HttpHeader:Server nginx/1.4.1
    HttpHeader:StatusCode 401
    HttpHeader:X-Content-Type-Options nosniff
    HttpHeader:X-MS-Server-Fqdn KPPLYN04.ad.domain.org
    HttpHeader:X-MS-WebTicketSupported cwt,saml
    HttpHeader:X-MS-WebTicketURL https://extwebsvc01.domain.org/WebTicket/WebTicketService.svc
    HttpHeader:X-Powered-By ASP.NET
    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"/>
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    <style type="text/css">
    <!--
    body{margin:0;font-size:.7em;font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;background:#EEEEEE;}
    fieldset{padding:0 15px 10px 15px;} 
    h1{font-size:2.4em;margin:0;color:#FFF;}
    h2{font-size:1.7em;margin:0;color:#CC0000;} 
    h3{font-size:1.2em;margin:10px 0 0 0;color:#000000;} 
    #header{width:96%;margin:0 0 0 0;padding:6px 2% 6px 2%;font-family:"trebuchet MS", Verdana, sans-serif;color:#FFF;
    background-color:#555555;}
    #content{margin:0 0 0 2%;;}
    .content-container{background:#FFF;width:96%;margin-top:8px;padding:10px;;}
    -->
    </style>
    </head>
    <body>
    <div id="header"><h1>Server Error</h1></div>
    <div id="content">
     <div class="content-container"><fieldset>
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     </fieldset></div>
    </div>
    </body>
    </html>
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    Aron

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    Eason Huang
    TechNet Community Support

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