MAC Pro wakes automatically at 8:00 p.m. local time no matter what I do
MAC Pro purchased November 2008 wakes up automatically every day at exactly 8:00 p.m. local time (was 7:00 p.m. before daylight savings happened last month). It has been doing this since purchase. Even if I turn it off (i.e., not just sleep mode) it starts up automatically at this time; in fact, even if I turn the power bar off after turning off the MAC, when next day I turn on the power bar, the MAC starts up automatically immediately, as if it was waiting to do so.
Attempted fixes so far:
* went to Energy Saver Preferences and made sure MAC not set to turn on automatically; changed settings and also set them to sleep at, for example, 8:01. No effect.
* checked that Blue Tooth is turned off.
* reset "the" PROM (I assume there is only one).
* explicitly trashed com.apple.Autowake.plist and com.apple.PowerManagement.plist, then changed Energy Saver Preferences, saying wakeup every day then leaving them set with no wakeup, then shut down computer. No effect; MAC woke up on 8:00 schedule as before.
* Changed my Security Preferences to Require password to wake this computer and Disable automatic logon. Now the MAC comes up automatically at 8:00 p.m. to the password entry window, but it still comes up that far automatically.
Configuration:
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 10 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05
SMC Version: 1.25f4
Have 3 750GB Seagate internal drives plus the standard 350GB (?) Apple drive. Using one of the Seagate drives as my OS drive (10.5.4).
If anyone can suggest what I might try to solve this, I would be very grateful. I'm wondering if maybe my SMC or ROM version is wrong (it seems to me to likely be a firmware issue, but I really don't know of course; not sure what MAC Model to use to check whether I have the most current versions -- "MAC Pro" or "MAC Pro - 8 core" or "MAC Pro - 2008"...).
There was an update I thought to fix this, but if you really have not updated to 10.5.6, try that.
The bug has something to do with GMT and setting the wake time to something, like a time when you would normally have it on and using it, like 12 noon, can also work.
And of course plugging "Mac GMT startup" into Google leads to an Apple technote:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1831
Take a look on the following news sites as they all documented this "feature." And great places to check daily or every couple days -
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/
http://www.macfixit.com/
http://www.macintouch.com/
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