Manage History Indicator in Asset Master

Hi,
Could any one please tell
what s the use of manage historically indicator
what would happen is i have not ticked on it.
Thanks
Moderator: Press F1 on the field

Hi,
Asset is managed historically
Set this indicator if you want the system to manage the asset with a history. Active history management has the following effects:
The asset is displayed in an asset chart.
The asset and the values/transactions belonging to it cannot be reorganized until the asset is deactivated.
Regards
udayakumar

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What does "reorganized" refer to in this context?
I've searched this forum, and there are references using the term but not including any reference to the definition. Googling variations on SAP/Asset/reorg has returned some great results, e.g. a 500+ page amazingly complete detail manual from SAP on fixed assets that I'm very happy to have found, but even that does not define the term in tht context of Fixed assets. Searching for the term in the document points to a page that simply states"For more information on archiving and reorganization of asset data, see Archiving in the R/3 System [Ext.]." So I've got it narrowed down to having something to do with archiving.
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Whenever you're confronted with an issue of this sort, the first thing you have do to is to break the down the issue or definition. Your main bone of contention is the word "Reorganization".
In this instance, if I were you, I will take the this issue out of the realm of technicality or SAP and try to understand what the word "reorganize" means.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/4f/71dde0448011d189f00000e81ddfac/frameset.htm
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More Terms
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