Managing Users Across Numerous Servers

Hey all, got a question.
I have 6 servers that my company uses to host all of the media we use on a daily basis. We're tightening security around here, so I'm setting them up to allow each of our 80 users to admin their own passwords. Seems simple, yeah?
Well, I first tried to set up an Open Directory server to do the user and password managing. It is/was a 10.5.2 Server. All of the servers pointing to it are 10.4.11. Worked okay when I first implemented it, but then crashed and burned horribly. Got some really cryptic errors on the 10.5 side, and it basically stopped working. Because we can't afford ANY downtime at my company, I scrapped it, and am doing it on a server level.
I have the first server up and working. Everyone has a login, and everyone can admin their own passwords. So, this leaves me with five more servers to set up.
I don't really want everyone to have to go through the same steps to changs their passwords for every one of those.
I know that you can export user lists from the WGM, but it doesn't retain passwords.
Any thoughts on how I should proceed?
Thanks in advance!

The "Password Server" you are looking for is there in the Open Directory Master.
Set up the user accounts, including user-changeable passwords on the Open Directory Master, and Mac OS X Server software will do all the replication and updating to all the other Open Directory Replicas. You only need enter the User Info once, on the Open Directory Master, and it will be quickly and automatically replicated to all the Open Directory Replicas. The users can change their passwords and any other attributes at will, and all User info on all Servers are updated quickly. (With six servers, you can set it to be essentially instantly.)
For this to work as expected, the User Accounts should be created with Workgroup Manager in a Network Accessible Shared Directory that has a Network Mount record. Then the Users are Network Users, rather than Local Users, and can log in from any Server or Workstation and use the resources their Username and Group allows them.
Six servers could easily support login (but probably not the file volumes you are serving) for over a thousand Users. There is no way a person could keep that much info updated if the account info had to be manually replicated. For your network, you would be using features developed for Server networks with thousands of Users, to service your handful of users.
This Open Directory Master/Replica setting only refers to Open Directory info. There is no need for any thing to be manually replicated on each Server. They can and should have their own unique information in other areas.
Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder

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Level: Verbose] Deserializing the type named {0} and with id {1}. ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:30.06 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Foundation
Topology                      ahg9p High    [Forced due to logging gap, Original Level: Verbose] Completed deserializing
the type named {0} and with id {1}. ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:30.12 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Foundation
Topology                      ahg9p High    [Forced due to logging gap, cached @ 08/21/2014 09:07:30.11, Original
Level: Verbose] Completed deserializing the type named {0} and with id {1}. ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:30.12 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Foundation
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08/21/2014 09:07:30.12 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Foundation
Configuration                 a16e High    SPAce PrincipalName found account renamed to NULL SID. Using new name. ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:30.14 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Server
General                       ahjnd Medium Constructed a new async cache named Profile Property Cache ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:30.15 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Portal Server      User
Profiles                 ajk4d Medium UserProfileProperty_WCFLogging::Begin ProfilePropertyServiceClient.ExecuteOnChannel ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:30.15 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Portal Server      User
Profiles                 ajk35 Medium MossClientBase_WCFLogging::Begin MossClientBase.ExecuteOnChannel ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:30.18 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Portal Server      User
Profiles                 ajk36 Medium MossClientBase_WCFLogging:: MossClientBase.ExecuteOnChannel - Executing codeblock on channel ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:31.27 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Foundation
Claims Authentication         aeax6 High    [Forced due to logging gap, Original Level: Verbose] SPSecurityContext: The SecurityTokenServiceBehavior is attached to the AsymmetricTrustChannel. ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:31.94 w3wp.exe (0x2BB8)                       0x2448 SharePoint Foundation
Topology                      aeayb Medium SecurityTokenServiceSendRequest: RemoteAddress: 'http://localhost:32843/SecurityTokenServiceApplication/securitytoken.svc/actas'
Channel: 'Microsoft.IdentityModel.Protocols.WSTrust.IWSTrustChannelContract' Action: 'http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/ws-trust/200512/RST/Issue' MessageId: 'urn:uuid:3c1f10be-67f6-4335-9245-0af94c65f814' ef9fb09c-fe46-1072-b404-c5bccdc9dc59
08/21/2014 09:07:34.09 NodeRunnerContent1-ac7a63c6-80a (0x1A00) 0x32DC Search                        Search Platform Services
ajhlg Medium NerioCluster : Got valid (Primary) lease until 2014-08-21T09:10:11.0915676Z/0 for net.tcp://gcdwinamzanl002/C62BA9/AdminComponent1/Services/InvokerService
08/21/2014 09:07:34.29 OWSTIMER.EXE (0x0968)                   0x3744 SharePoint Foundation         Monitoring
aeh57 Medium Sql Ring buffer status eventsPerSec = ,processingTime=0,totalEventsProcessed=0,eventCount=0,droppedCount=0,memoryUsed=0
08/21/2014 09:07:35.72 w3wp.exe (0x0C0C)                       0x18F0 SharePoint Foundation
Unified Logging Service       b8fx High    ULS Init Completed (w3wp.exe, onetnative.dll)
08/21/2014 09:07:35.86 w3wp.exe (0x0C0C)                       0x18F0 SharePoint Foundation
Topology                      2myf Medium Disabling the configuration filesystem and memory caches.
Abhishek Madan

Hi Abhishek,
According to your description, my understanding is that the User Profile Synchronization service stuck on ‘Starting’ or ‘Stopping’.
Please check whether you installed SQL 2012 Native Client (Pre-requisites) on SharePoint server. If yes, download and install SQL 2008 R2 Native Client from the below location:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/1/3/9138773A-505D-43E2-AC08-9A77E1E0490B/1033/x64/sqlncli.msi
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Make sure that the farm account is a member of the Administrators group on the server on which you are trying to start the User Profile Synchronization service, then restart the SharePoint Timer Service.
Set the FIM services to "Local System" before starting the service.
There is a troubleshooting for User Profile Synchronization Service start issues, please have a look at:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg750257(v=office.14).aspx
Here are some similar posts for you to take a look at:
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/358855/user-profile-synchronization-service-not-starting
http://www.sharepointdiary.com/2012/09/user-profile-synchronization-service-stuck-at-starting.html#ixzz2aX7Wz4GQ
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