Mapping Physical Sample Quantity - Inspection Plan Characteristics Quantity

Hello,
There is a requirment to map Physical Sample Quantity QPRS-MENGE (Size of the Physical Sample) with PLMK-PRUEFEINH (Sample Quantity Factor for Sample(Mult. Sample Unit of Msr.)) based upon Inspection Lot.
Thanks and Regards,
Prabhjot Singh
Moderator message: OK, so please start working on your requirement.
Edited by: Thomas Zloch on Apr 1, 2011 1:56 PM

why can't we use Physical sample drawing process (T.code:QPV2 ) for auto creation of physical samples.

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Inspection of physical samples

Hi,
I am trying to set up quality inspection of physical samples for a plant. Until now we don't use SAP QM for inspection in production really (neither inspection lot origin 03, nor 04) but that might change in near future. Nevertheless, we would like to start with inspection of physical samples.
As far as I understand the SAP Help files there are "two" different inspection lots for which I can enter values. First, the lot from which a physical sample drawing was created by the system when I create the lot (in my case insp. lot origin 89 and inspection points for physical samples in inspection plan) and, second, the inspection lots I can create from the physical sample via QPR2 or QPR5 (in my case insp. lot origin 15). Although it's one step more for the users to create an inspection lot for each physical sample, I prefer the second option because a physical sample can be reworked in our plant if the results recorded are not acceptable and results have to be recorded again after rework. If I choose the second option I have an inspection lot (origin 89) I can use later on for results recording during production. The fact that irritates me is that's a lot with inspections points of type "physical sample" that I do not need necessarily in all operations.
Why are there two lots in which results to physical samples can be recorded?
Do you agree with my solution or are there other more reasonable ways?
Cheers
Marcus.

Hi,
I am trying to set up quality inspection of physical samples for a plant. Until now we don't use SAP QM for inspection in production really (neither inspection lot origin 03, nor 04) but that might change in near future. Nevertheless, we would like to start with inspection of physical samples.
As far as I understand the SAP Help files there are "two" different inspection lots for which I can enter values. First, the lot from which a physical sample drawing was created by the system when I create the lot (in my case insp. lot origin 89 and inspection points for physical samples in inspection plan) and, second, the inspection lots I can create from the physical sample via QPR2 or QPR5 (in my case insp. lot origin 15). Although it's one step more for the users to create an inspection lot for each physical sample, I prefer the second option because a physical sample can be reworked in our plant if the results recorded are not acceptable and results have to be recorded again after rework. If I choose the second option I have an inspection lot (origin 89) I can use later on for results recording during production. The fact that irritates me is that's a lot with inspections points of type "physical sample" that I do not need necessarily in all operations.
Why are there two lots in which results to physical samples can be recorded?
Do you agree with my solution or are there other more reasonable ways?
Cheers
Marcus.

Three Physical Samples withdraw from inspection lot 04 and then result record for all three

Dear Gurus,
We have 3 quality labs and each lab is sent a separate samples to inspect certain characteristics once we receive material from production. I have created an inspection plan and mapped these three labs as work center in operation and then assigned MICs under each operation to inspect.
Now my issue is how to map separate 3 samples to inspection lot generated from production ( type-4) and also how to configure that to inspection plan.
I have to result record for all these three physical sample as withdrawn from Lot based upon inspection plan as mentioned above.
I can mention sample drawing procedure in inspection plan but how to map actual sample there.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Satish

Hi Satish
You are creating three operation for depicting three testing Labs.
Against each lab (operation) you had assigned MICs as per your requirement.
Now you have to assign a SDP along with inspection point type 200 for physical sample in task list.
After prod confirmation system will create inspection lot along with a sample by default for 1st operation.
For other operations you have to create samples manually referring the same inspection lot (QPR6).Remember to click ' Create Insp points' and mention operation.
Release the samples in QPR4.
Now when you go for result recording system would ask first for operation, so select the operation , then system will ask for insp point (sample no).There click on assign insp point , so system will provide the Sample no which were created in QPR6 for that particular operation.
Please follow the steps and revert.
Regards
D Mohanty

QM - Inspection Result: Characteristics Overview

Hi,
My requirement is to show the Characteristics details of Inspection result.
The folowing fields are required from the General tab subscreen: Specification, Result.
The corresponding screen fields are QAMKR-TOLGRENZE, QAQEE-SUMPLUS.
QAMKR, QAQEE are structure. How will i get these details.

Hi Antony
You need to give deatils of your requirement e.g
how you are recording results ( Single Value, Sumarried Value ) ??
Are you recording results for Physical samples, Free inspection points ??
Are you looking for sumarried results histrory or Average
based on this business process mapped, results get saved under separate tables.
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EHS - QM Interface. Inspection Plan Creation

Hi all,
Has anyone used EHS-QM interface before?
I am tryng to create inspection plan characteristics from specification database and it is not working properly.
The customizing that I have done is:
1. We have Specify Environment parameters (i.e. EHQMEP_CONTROLKEY)
2. We have verify Product Safety, Quality Management and Material Management pre-requisites
3. We have filled Mapping Table (CGQM) with and standard value assignment type (SAP_EHS_1013_016) and a class characteristic (SAP_EHS_1013_016_EC_TEMP)
Then in CG02 we have:
1. We have completed a specification in CG02 with Usage QM and a Validity Area
2. In CG02 we create a inspection plan and select rating QM or Group all ratings
3. No Inspection Plan to be created is available
Any clue on what the problem migth be?
Best Regards,
Alberto
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Alberto Garcí

Dear all
1.) it might be helful to open a new thread regarding your topic in parallel EH&S FORUM
2.) To my knowlegde witH SAP ECC 6.0 EnhancementPackage 5 EH&S QM interface has been enlarged. I am sorry. My inquiry in internet regarding that was not successful. PLease check SAP Markeptplace as I am pretty sure that there was a change/enhancement
3.) we are not using this intertace but have played around a little bit.
The interfaceh EH&S => QM is in my opion "not well" designed. First of all:
a.) you need to trigger it manually (use of transaciton CG02)
b.) to my knowledge no change in EHST is tarbnsferred automatically to QM; e.g. if flash point has changed or density etc. the user is in charge to make sure that the data will be tranferred into QM
c.) the "trick" to map validity areas to plant (excatly it is a plant plant mapping) is not goiod approach. Reason:
Normally a density is defined with usage "PUBLIC/EG_WORLD). The meaining is:
1.) can be used e.g. in Materiaql Safety data sheet (public document) and other EH&S document
Now you can use (you must not) priorized ratings (e.g. rating QM does have higher priority as PUBLIC) in EH&S logic to transfer data from EHS& to QM but to my knowlegde you must make the "plant" <=> "PLant" by "hand" using furtehre validity areas.
That means fi you would like to use density 1 g/cm3 for all plants (and the QM inspecions plans) then you must enter any plant of relevance as validity area to map that to the inspection plan (which to my knowlegde once again is plant specific).
I am not sure if the EH&S QM interface supports you really to "start" immedeatly the generation of inspection plans regardgin all plants,. The link to SAP online help above will lead you directly in the right chapter.
Regarding phrases: sorry the analysis of thsi interfaxce has been done long ago; but phrases are "textes" which can have "any length". It might be a problme to map that to QM Plan. If you check that link above you will lead to this statement:
n the Function module column you can use a function module to define yourself how specification data is to be converted to an inspection characteristic.
As an example, use the function module EHQM09_BUILD_CHA_NO_COMP to develop analogous modules.
Therefore if necessary you could exchange this fuinciotn module by a customer specific one.
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PS: Regarding changes in EH&S QM Interface ECC 6.0/EnhPack 5: : may be refer to http://www.scribd.com/doc/58761766/37/Quality-Management
PPS: may be of interest could be: http://www.consolut.com/en/s/sap-ides-access/d/s/doc/Q-EHQM0904

Valuation of Physical Samples

I am dealing with a problem in which the business does not always record results against ALL inspection characteristics. As a result the physical sample does not auto-valuate and the inspection results are not written to the batch. This is a very serious situation the business. Is there a way to either force physical sample vaulation upon usage decision?
Thanks

Yes. It is a real issue. The problem is you can make a UD without vaulting all the physical sample, (or inspection points). In your case I don't see how you can have an automated process for vaulting the inspection points. How is the system to know that for a given sample whether or not you are done with it or not?
I would suggest using one of the UD user exits to verify that all samples are valuated before the UD is saved. If the aren't, the user is informed via a window popup and then they would have to go do the valuations and then try the UD again.
FF

Print against new physical sample

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We have created a inspection plan with physical sample and inspection point 200, accordingly we have assigned sampling procedure.
Initiallly when inspection lot creates with 04, analyst performs the physical sample and same is congirms through QPR4 tcode, Now suppose after analysis the batch is failing and as per the define procedure analyst need to take the fresh sample and do the fresh testing and RR.
In this case we are creatin a new physical drawing number and RR performing against the new number.
Now my user wants both the results .....
1. First result with rejected and
2. Secong result with rejected or accepted
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AYK

Table for inspection plan

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what are the tables related to inspection plan in QM Module
regards

Following r the important table for inpection plan
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Quality Inspections Using WM Without Physical Sample Managment

I have configured the system to not use physical sample managment. Warehouse Management is being implemented. When the WM personnel perform a goods receipt and subsequently confirm open transport orders using LT04, a pop-up window to Process QM Inspection Lot requesting where to place the sample quantity appears. The business wants the sample quantity to always remain with the stock. How can I get rid of this request to specify where the sample quantity should be placed when I am not using physical sample management?

hi allen,
why don;t you directly put the materail in final detination after goods receipt .
after goods receipt matl will be placed in interim storage type 902 and after confirming the transfer order the material will be placed in final destination .
In the system (stock overview) material will be shown in under inspection but material will be lying in the same location .
the sample should be removed from final destination and after perform the UD. after comletion of UD if material is ok then accept the material which will change the status of the material from quality inspection to unrestricted stock in the system but material will be lying the same location .
in this case you don;t have to keep the material in quality interim storage location for the sample approval.which will definitely save your time ,space & effort.
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Display of Qual Characteristics in QE03 for Physical Samples

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I am using result recording with physical samples.
I am able to record Qualitative characteristics through transaction QE01. When i want see these "qualitative characteristics" in QE03 screen, just an icon appears in the "results" coulmn in RR screen. (Code & Code Texts missing)
Why is this so?? When I go back & see in QE01, I can see the Qual Values.
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Hello,
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Invoice Plan and Quantity Discrepancy

I'm not sure if this belongs on this forem or the financial forum but since it involves POs and an MM transaction(MIRO) I decided to post it here.
We have an IR Only Purchase Order with multiple line items. The PO Order Quantity varies from 1 EA up to 6 EA on 34 different line items. An invoice plan manual invoice plan sing "Sample Partial Invoice Plan(20) as the Invoice Plan Type. The payments are split 30% - 30% - 30% - 10% with each payment due on a specific date.
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When the first invoice was processed for 30% it assigned a "quantity of 1" on each line item in the invioce. This is affecting the Commitment dollars left on the order. For example for the line item with 4 EA in the PO quantity, the commitment dollars only dropped 25% of the 30% total for that line. So let's say the line item wa for $100,000 it should have reduced the commitment amount by $30,000. Instead since the invoice quantity defaulted to 1 it only reduced the commitment amount by $7,500.
This same ratio type posting occurred on each line item that had more than 1 EA on the PO. It appears that when processing the MIRO it will not allow one to change the quantity to the PO Order Quantity. Does anyone know how to change the quantity on the Invoice or is there a way to get the whole line item quantity to default onto the invoice when a payment is due?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Dan

Hi Dan,
If the unit of measurement was set up as relevant for value based commitment reduction in transaction
CUNI, then the commitment reduction will be the same as the invoice amount.
If the unit of measurement was set up as relevant for quantity based commitment reduction in transaction
CUNI, then the commitment reduction is always according the to invoice quantity, which could lead to differences in the commitment values - which you have described.
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Inspection type 01 and physical samples

Dears
I have scenario like this
My raw material is avtivated inspection type 01 and 15 (For physical sample)
as GR done inspection lost was created of 01 type and it was workin fine
now when ever vendor delivery a new item with a slight changes for existing material (So material number will not change)
So as GR done inspection lot was created, But for this inspection lot i need system treat as a physical sample (normaly creating by using QPR1)
to achive this what are the things i need to do
Pls tell me the details step with process
Pls give your in put
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sir,
actually i am try to do something for sample approval process
my scenario is
when ever vendor deliver any sample we need to recored it and keep a database with all inspection details
some times vendor will deliver the sample in po with zero value
so can you pls tell me how i can map this scenario
Faisal

Automatic valuation of inspection point for physical samples.

Hi,
My requirement is after recording results (QE11) for each and every sample, automatic valuation of inspection point to be done.
Inspection point valuation not done automatically even though I have created the required details in inspection Plan.
I have maintained the following details in inspection plan
In Inspection plan header:
Inspection Point : 200 & Sample Drawing Procedure
In Inspection Plan Operation Details:
Insp.Point Completion: Automatic valuation based on inspection point definition.
Is there any settings to be done in customiszation.
Please help me to solve this issue.
Thanks & Regards
V.Devaraj

Hello Sap-Guys.
I am facing the same problem, and I did several workarounds, to evalueate the inspection point by myself.
The problem is this :
We are using RFC-techniques to evaluate samples.
Shortly, there is an inspection , which is defined, to be per point, consisting of two user fields, date and time. There must be three things (characteristics )controlled, two manually, by the workers, and the third will be calculated internally by sap via formula.
The rfc-possibilities are provided by myself, building a rfc-enabled z-module, which calls some SAP-BAPIS, from which one is called
BAPI_INSPOPER_RECORDRESULTS
Until now I do not think, it behaves like tha sap-gui.
Am I doing something wrong, or does this module really not behave like the sap gui ???
If I evaluate the very first char , I check, whether this is the only one for this actual inspection point.
If so, I delete the code groups, if any, (only quantitative evaluation til now ) and the point stays grey, ok, because there are still two other char-evaluations missing.
If my char to evaluate is not the first, then I check, which are stil left, AND , if there are any left without evaluation, I also erase code and codegroups ( if any ) in the insppoint structure, so the char gets its evaluation and the point still stays grey.
But if there had been already any evaluations, I manually check , whether my actual value meets the tolerances, and then I manually tell the inspection-point structure, which code must be used, in order to set its own state correctly.
This means, if my actual sample meets the tolerances, and only one sample was rejected , I tell the inspection point, to stay red, by setting the approoriate code manually from qplak.
If all others were ok, but the actual evaluation ( calculated manually again, tolerances ... ) is not ok, then i tell the inspection point structure, to get "red".
I do this every time, a evaluation takes place, and it works nice for simple values.
And here is my big Problem :
My last characteristic of the three to be evaluated, must not be evaluated by the workers, but BY calculation inside sap, BECAUSE IT HAS A FORMULA.
Especially for this case I left a comment in my code, and now this case occurred.
So, what could be a better approach , to use this bapi, AND trigger automatic inspectionpoint evaluation WITHOUT MY ENTIRE WORKAROUND ( where I now see, that it cannot deal with formulas ) ???
( It could, if I debugged deep enough, to check, how it builds the formula ) , but bapis are there to use them.
Aren`t they???
Could anybody give me a hint ?
Thx and best regards
R.Dornfeld

Not all physical samples are valuated, force inspection completion?

Hi
I have entered results against inspection characteristics but on UD the system gives message "not all physical samples are valuated, do you want force inspection completion?
What is missing or how can I avoid this message?

In QE23, Select the inspection lot and check for the physical sample,
Once you enter both, you will get the screen similiar to QE51 to record result,
You will see a button for physical sample which u need to select and do the valuation.
hope this helps

Physical Sampling Points mapping & Stock transfer

Dear all,
We are into bulk drug manufacturing where in the manufacturing process is continuous. We have some intermediate products which have been identified as by-products. We get first by-product (say CS0034) at first operation (or phase). We test it after the GRN of the same. If it passes the test then we consume this in the second operation, but if it fails the test then we process it again in the first operation.
In the second operation we get another by-product (say TC00198). We perform the same procedure what has been described above.
I need your valuable inputs for the following questions,
1. How to reprocess the failed by-product on the same material? I am thinking to identify the failed material with previous by-product, fro ex. if TC00198 fails the test then in UD we will reject it & we will have material to material transfer (so stock of TC00198 will be transferred to CS0034) Is there any other better solution to take care of this?
2. While testing the sample of these by-product we have to take physical sample from 4 different locations of the storage tanks? How to identofy these sampling points in SAP?
Expecting your quick replies on this.
Regards
Manoj Patil

Hi Manoj,
Can I ask 2 questions here?
How you are addressing reprocessing of CS0034 after its GR?
Why you want to correlate failed product (TC00198) to its previous operation product (CS0034)?
This tilts more towards PP module.
I consider reprocessing as rework. You should have separate order type customized for this. Against this order you can consume TC00198 and other consumables also if required. You can even book the labor charges also. Later you do GR again for TC00198
If it is necessary to build the stock of CS0034 again in system from TC00198, then also you can address this using above order type. Separate order type gives better accountability for reconciliation as compared to material to material transfer.
Regarding your second query - If you want to record inspection results you can assign sampling procedure in inspection plan. System will calculate sample size according to it and then you can record the results in QA32. Or you are looking for Inspection of Physical Samples concept in SAP?
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