Material Determination -SAP SD

Hi All,
I am working in Material Deterimination ( based on ATP). for eg: if the Product X is 10 QTY , when i create the sales order for Product X for 20 qty , system should pick 10 from X and remaining 10 from Y ( which we mentioend in COndition record). it works fine for me. But i am not sure where we can set the pricing ( like for 10 Qty X pricing and Remaining 10 Y pricing). when i do sales order for 20 qty , system create original line with TAX item category ( for 20 qty pricing) and sub item 10+10 with item category TAPS. how can we control the pricing should be based on Orifinal item or based on sub item.
thanks
Chandru,

Hi
Please follow the below thread also....the OP also have exactly the same issue.
http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2146176&tstart=0
Thanks,
Ravi

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Hi Samuel,
If the customer sends in their material number this need to be mapped with the value '001' to the field E1EDP19-QUALF and the material number mapped with E1EDP19-IDTNR.
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SAP SD Material Determination not reflected in assigned sales document type

Hi Experts,
I have implemented customized material determination, with requirement to change the UoM of the entered material, from GJ to MJ. I have assigned the procedure to 3 document types:
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Edited by: HJMY on Sep 20, 2011 1:24 PM

Hi Ravi,
Thx for your reply.
But I am creating credit/debit memo request without reference to billing.
When I create credit/debit memo request, the material determination is triggered.
Per my test today for credit memo request, I found that the material determination is triggered.
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Please help.
Edited by: HJMY on Sep 21, 2011 3:28 AM

SAP SD material determination help...

Dear Members,
I have a scenario in material determination and I need your help.
We have old product and we have to substitute it with new product. now we have to finish old product first from the inventory then we have to substitute with new product in the material determination. so how do I put this condition in the material determination.
and also how do I substitute new material to the old material.
I will highly appreciate if any one could help me with the detailed procedure for this.
Thank you so much.
Rohan.

Hi,
please see this notes i hope it ill helpfull for you.
MATERIAL DETERMINATION :
This function is used in several business scenarios.
Ex : l-40c product is discontinued so when we enter the material master. L-40c we want system to swap the material number to alternate materials l-40F
Business wants to introduce new product as alternate to the existing material l-60c and new product is l-60f. Now system will not swap directly but issue a pop showing an alternate material is available whether it has to be selected.
The user enters material xyz system will show a list of materials which are available for this particular specification (CUSTOMISED BY CONDITION TECHNIQUE)_
Menu Path :
Imgu2026 sdu2026 basic functions u2026 select material determination u2026 maintain pre-requisities for material determination
Select maintain procedure.
Select standard procedure A00001 material determination and copy as Z00002material dete.proc. and save.
The procedure z00002 has condition type u201CA001u201D. This condition type has access sequence = u201CA001u201D.
The access sequence u201CA001u201D uses a table no.1 material entered
Select assign procedures to sales document types
Sdoc. Type     Procedure
Quotation      Z00002
Select your document type and assign the procedure.
Select define substitution reasons
Select new entries
Substitution reason = Z1
Description = old material by new material
Entr4y = if activated will show the old material number also in the document relevant for output (communication to customer)
Warning = if activated system will issue an alert before changing the material to new number ( to be used only in the case at automatic swiping
Strategy : Keep it blank for automatic swiping
Save.
Create one more substitution
Z2     Alternate               A
To test it create the condition records.
Menu path :
Sapmenu u2026. Logistics u2026 sdu2026 master data u2026 products u2026 material determination .. create (VB11)
Material entered : the no.of material which is entered in the document.
Material : here you have maintain the material number which is the replacement
Enter the respective material numbers and then fill up the proposed reason (Z1/Z2)
Now create the document and test the working of the function.
Enter the material now the system will automatically swap the entered material with the another material number. System will maintain the record of material entered.
SECOND SCENARIO:
VB11 (SAME PATH)
Maintain the proposal reason as Z2 material
After we enter the material system will show the popup message showing the alternate material. We have choice here either copy or continue with entered material number.
Suppose you want to maintain more than one material as alternative material. Select the line alternate or (F2) button.
with best Regards,
Y.VENKATASWAMY.

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Free goods with material determination

Hi All,
I have i query that for line item A material i need to give free good as X material. But there is the material determination to that particular material X with the material Y.
In this case how the system will redetermine? As of my knowledge as per the SAP standard free goods doesn't entertain any other like BOM, and variant config.
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Regards
RPS

You can use transaction VBN1 for assigning free goods.
Select discount type as ZFRG.
Select appropriate key combination.
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Hi,
I´m using material determination for my sales order, and i need to determine the Shipping point with storage location configuration. So when I add the material number, the quantity and the storage location the material determination runs and in the second line determined the shipping point it is not filled. Any body knows how can I fix this problem?
Best Regards

Hi
The shipping point will be determined on the basis of shipping condition, loading group and the delivering plant.
The storage location dependent shipping point determination is used only in delivery documents and not in sales orders (Assign Shipping Points According to Storage Location).
To activate this you must first Define Rule for Determination of Shipping Point, wherein you can assign the rule to the delivery document only and not to the sales order.
If you say that you are getting the shipping point determined based on the number of the material, the quantity and the storage location entered(though it is not) then here note that you are entering the storage location only to the material entered and not to the material determined. When the system determine the alternate material then the shipping point will be determined on the basis of shipping condition, loading group and the delivering plant as per SAP standard process.
Try by entering the storage location to the material determined and check whether you can get the shipping point or not and let the forum know the result.
Hope this helps you.
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Material Determination - quantity check in sales order

Hi everyone.
Hope all is good.
I have a doubt in Material Determination.
If I need to substitute a product in Material Determination, how can I come to know whether the quantity of the replacement material that is replacing the substitute material is available or not.
I know while creating a delivery the system will show quantity not available.
However, how we can see the result while placing a order?
Because there can be a scenario the material which is replacing the different material, we might dont have their quantity also available. So, it will be a waste to create a order and then wait for the results in delivery.
Another situation.
In MD process, what my client is looking for is
Substitute Reason- Availability
If material X does not have quantity it should be replaced with Material Y.
However if Material X has quantity, then MD should not take place. No replacement should happen.
The reason is there is a huge in and out of stock every now and then.
Do both the scenarios can be worked out in standard SAP?
Please suggest.

Hi Joan,
Thank you for the reply. I understood the subsitute reason.
But my question is We have substituted Y for X.
Now what I am asking is what if Y is also not available. Can in the order itself we can come to know whether quantity of Y is available or not instead of delivery.
Second if the subsitute reason is "quantity not available"- not in front of the system so not sure about the code. Same Y for X and now if quanity for X is available the material should not be susbtituted.
Please correct if I am wrong.
Regards

Material Determination in Sales Order BOM

Dear Gurus,
We would appreciate any solutions and/or suggestions you can provide for our problem below:
Background:
Part XYZ is a sales BOM which contains 3 components: A, B, and C. Component B has a material determination (product substitution/interchange) with material B1, B2 or B3.
Requirement:
When a customer orders part XYZ, and if component/material B is not available in stock/shortage, then any or all of the product interchanges may be used to fulfill the order until the full order quantity is confirmed.
Problem:
We are able to explode the BOM to its components but unable to generate the product interchanges for component B in the sales order.
Could you please help? Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Michael SA

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Please check the above notes.
Regards
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Material Determination based on Availability

Hi SD gurus,
I have a client requirement as below:
We create order via BAPI. Data comes from ext call center system.
Whenever Matnr A is entered in Sales order & it is not available then Matnr B should come.
1: I know that we can handle this in Material Determination. I did req. config in IMG
2: I have created VB11 stating that MATNR A should be substituted by Matnr B. I have ticked the MRP ind in VB11 as well.
Now the question is:
When I enter MATNR A in sales order, & assuming its not available then, MATNR B will come in Sales order.
In my case it is happening. But whenever this happens what should be the item category of the MATNR A & MATNR B?
Please let me understand how will standard SAP behave.
I thought the item A should appear as Text item & probably item B should become relevant for delivery & pricing.
But currently I am getting item category TAX for item A & TAPS for item B in sand box. Is that correct?
What should be the standard item categories in this case?
regards

Hi,
The system runs several checks on on each possible substitute, for example to determine if the customer would accept the product based on the product attributes and current stock availability.The system checks substitute materials until the order quantity is satisfied, or until there are no more possible substitutes.
When a valid alternative is found, the system creates a sub-item for it, using the item category that you have defined for the main material in Customizing.
If there is not enough inventory for the alternatives to cover a required quantity, the system confirms only the available amount and ignores the rest. The main item contains information on the confirmed quantity of the sub-item, but is not relevant for planning. For this reason, the material shortage is not passed on to planning.
If you set the material requirements planning indicator for one of the alternatives, however, the system creates an additional sub-item for this material, assigning it a confirmed quantity equal to zero, and a required quantity equal to the open quantity. Since this material is placed as the final alternative in the substitution, it captures any remaining quantities. The system takes this item into account and passes the material shortage on to planning.
Based on your settings Customizing, the system performs pricing at the main or sub-item level.
There are two separate item categories in sales documents for product selection. The item category TAX contains specifications for the main item (original product). The other, TAPS, contains specifications for the sub-items (substitute product).
Review the item category configurations in the standard system. If these do not meet your requirements, perform the activities in the following topics to modify the item category configuration, or create your own categories. Note that if your product selection procedure requires that pricing be done at the main item instead of the sub-item, you will have to create new item categories.
The following examples detail how pricing is carried out at the main item level and sub-item level for product selection.
Pricing at the Main Item
the price for the order is determined based on the price condition records for the main item only. You have deactivated pricing for the sub-item category, so the system does not determine a price for it. Since both the main item and the sub-item categories are relevant for billing, the prices (even if there is no price) are copied to the invoice and billed accordingly.
Pricing at the Sub-item
the price for the order is determined based on the price condition records for the sub-items. You have deactivated pricing for the main item category, so the system does not determine a price for it. Since both the main item and the sub-item categories are relevant for billing, the prices (even if there is no price) are copied to the invoice and billed accordingly.

BOM+Free Goods+Material Determination

Hi,
My company want to give free goods in Bill of materials.But system is not accepting that.How can we do that?
I am getting the same problem with Material Determination and Free Goods combination.When i configure material determination for a material which is having free goods system is not showing...any idea?
Points for sure.

Hi,
The constraints for free goods in SAP are as follow
Constraints
Free goods is currently only supported on a 1:1 basis. This means that an order item can only be
the source of one free goods item. This means that agreements involving relationships such as
'Buy material 1 and get material 2 and material 3 free of charge' or 'Order material 1 and material
2 together and get material 3 free of charge' are not supported.
Free goods is not currently supported in combination with material structures (e.g. product
selection, bills of material, variants with BOM explosion).
Free goods is currently only supported for sales orders with document category C (not for
quotations, for example).
Free goods is not currently supported for deliveries without reference to a sales order.
Free goods is not currently supported for make-to-order production, third-party order processing
and scheduling agreements.
Hope it helps you.
Regards,
Sarosh

Material determination with Product selection

Hi SAP Gurus
We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected]
Thanks
SDSAPCON

>
SAPCON SD wrote:
> Hi SAP Gurus
>
> We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
>
> I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
>
> Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected].
>
> Thanks
>
> SDSAPCON
In the substitution reasons ...mark the OUTCOME as blank for this particular 0006. I am not sure for ATP
rgds
Sai
Edited by: Sai on Mar 27, 2008 10:00 PM

Material Determination use stock of discontinued material

I am trying to determine if there is a way in R/3 to have a material replace an older material but as sales orders are entered take into consideration any inventory that might still remain of the discontinued material. Here is an example.
1.) We have 15 EA of Material A in inventory in Plant 123
2.) We are going to discontinue Material A and replace with Material B in this plant
3.) VB11 Condition Records are setup for the A to B substitution for order entries
4.) Order for 20 EA for Material A comes in
I would like to see a requirement tp use the 15 from A that are still inventory and then place an order for the remaining 5 on the new Matl B (from Mfg or whomever provides).
Is this possible using the condition records for material determination and the follow-up material options on MRP4 view?

Hi Bill,
This is possible using standard SAP functionalities.
Now considrer a situation where you are creating VB11 record for material A(to be discontiniued) which is to be substituted by material B. And the need is to deplete the available stock of material A first and then start substituting it with material B.
In order to achieve this, while creating a record in VB11 firstly create a record for replacing mat A by mat A , then double click the record line that you have created, which will pop up a small window giving you options to enter mutiple alternatives apart from mat A. where you can you can enter material B as the second alternative/replacement after mat A.
The sequence of material is important to decide which material is considered as the replacement by the system.
In our case system will first replace mat A by mat A and search for stock availability, if sufficient stock or no stock available it will replace the original mat A with the alternative material entered in the VB11 record i.e. Mat B.
Another important thing to note while creating VB11 record is a check box available as "MRP Indiciator" now this indicator plays an important role while transferring requirement to MRP.
In our case we have Mat A which is being disontinued so we dont want the requirement for mat A to be transferred to MRP incase of shortage, instead we want the requirement for material B to be transferred for MRP.
In this case you need to check the MRP indicator box for Material B. if not checked the requirement for Mat A would be transferred to MRP.
Hope this clarifies your questions.
Thanks,
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Material determination with ATP-CHECK.

I want use the material determ after the stock ATP-CHECK.
the need detail is that:
first the sales order item run the atp-check ,if the stock cannot supply all the requested quantity ,the shortage quantity will use the material-substitution,by the choose screen or automatic create the new item.otherwise,if the stock is enough to supply,not to run the funciton material determinaton.
this is the all my want,whether is it can be carry out and how to configure the sap setting.

Hi Lee,
The standard system supports this. While creating the material determination records in Tcode VB11., while entering the we give the material entered and in the column material you have to give this same material first and by clicking the ICON 'Alternate Materials' on the Application Tool Bar you can give the sequence in which the substitution take place.
Hope this explains your query. If this is not clear please mail me to [email protected]
Thanks,
Ravi Sankar

Material determination with outcome B

Hi all,
We are using material determination functionality. Automatic reason with Outcome B. As per SAP help, the Material is determined at SO level and it is copied over to DO . No availability check in DO and material is not redetermined at DO.This is exactly I am trying to achieve so using outcome B is used. But when I create DO, only the higher level item is getting copied and also with Zero quantity. So I can not proceed with DO. Has anyone come across this problem before? What is the copy control I need to maintain if I am using outcome B
Please help.
Regards,
Beena

Hi,
In a delivery referring to an order, material determination is carried out subject to the sales document type on which it is based. Material determination in a delivery is carried out for new items if material determination has been activated for the underlying sales document type. No material determination is carried out for items copied from the order. You have to assign an appropriate material determination procedure (in the standard R/3 system, it is A00001) to the Sales document type DL so that material determination can be carried out in deliveries without reference to an order (LO).
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