Material determination with ATP-CHECK.

I want use the material determ after the stock ATP-CHECK.
the need detail is that:
first the sales order item run the atp-check ,if the stock cannot supply all the requested quantity ,the shortage quantity will use the material-substitution,by the choose screen or automatic create the new item.otherwise,if the stock is enough to supply,not to run the funciton material determinaton.
this is the all my want,whether is it can be carry out and how to configure the sap setting.

Hi Lee,
The standard system supports this. While creating the material determination records in Tcode VB11., while entering the we give the material entered and in the column material you have to give this same material first and by clicking the ICON 'Alternate Materials' on the Application Tool Bar you can give the sequence in which the substitution take place.
Hope this explains your query. If this is not clear please mail me to [email protected]
Thanks,
Ravi Sankar

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Material determination with Product selection

Hi SAP Gurus
We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected]
Thanks
SDSAPCON

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SAPCON SD wrote:
> Hi SAP Gurus
>
> We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
>
> I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
>
> Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected].
>
> Thanks
>
> SDSAPCON
In the substitution reasons ...mark the OUTCOME as blank for this particular 0006. I am not sure for ATP
rgds
Sai
Edited by: Sai on Mar 27, 2008 10:00 PM

Material determination with outcome B

Hi all,
We are using material determination functionality. Automatic reason with Outcome B. As per SAP help, the Material is determined at SO level and it is copied over to DO . No availability check in DO and material is not redetermined at DO.This is exactly I am trying to achieve so using outcome B is used. But when I create DO, only the higher level item is getting copied and also with Zero quantity. So I can not proceed with DO. Has anyone come across this problem before? What is the copy control I need to maintain if I am using outcome B
Please help.
Regards,
Beena

Hi,
In a delivery referring to an order, material determination is carried out subject to the sales document type on which it is based. Material determination in a delivery is carried out for new items if material determination has been activated for the underlying sales document type. No material determination is carried out for items copied from the order. You have to assign an appropriate material determination procedure (in the standard R/3 system, it is A00001) to the Sales document type DL so that material determination can be carried out in deliveries without reference to an order (LO).
reward if its useful.
Regards,
Hari Shankar

Alt bom components with ATP check - production order resets usage prob.

Hello,
I have searched many threads for this answer. Here is my scenario
BOM for finished good X has the following components
Component   |    Usage Prob   |    Strategy    | Alt Item Group   |   Priority
A          |             55%         |         2         |         1             |              1
B          |              45%        |         2         |          1            |               2
When I create the production order for 100 units, components A and B are proposed respectively (per usage probability, as expected)   - like so
Production Order
Component A = 55 units
Component B = 45 units
Here is the requirement - Component B at any given time is restricted by federal law to not be used for material X for more than 45% of its make up. Therefore my client cannot build X with more than 45% of component B. However, we always want to use at most 45%. IF component B is not available, transfer all or partial confirmation to Component A.
Issue:
ATP and usage probabilities will not work. Whenever I run ATP check for production order, the component with the highest priority get all the reqirements (if inventory permits). The production order master data is 'reset' by the ATP check (the usage probability on the component will change from 45% to 100%)
Any help is greatly appreciated!
~S
Edited by: futsol on Jun 29, 2009 10:41 PM

futsol ,
Maintainance is not required, it say manual maintainance is possible if required.
if you set it 1 system will check the proportion and do the reservation accordingly , if even in production order if you check availabity it will not change the quantity proportion, if its 2 , its meant for alloting the 100 % available component.if A is not 100% available it will replace it with B , if B is availabe to cover total quantity and vice versa.
by giving 1 it gives you option to change proportion as per your wish , if the any of the alternative is not available to fullfill rerquirement., for example in your case component B , if its available you want to use it 45% all the time , but if its not availabe the you can change the proportion or quantity for A in that specific production order only.
I dont know if there is any other way.
Check again with strategy 1 .
Hope it helps you .
Regards
Ritesh

Problem with ATP check in release of process order

Hi gurus,
I have next problem in automatic release of process order:
No checking group is maintained for product 000000000791104015, plant VFMX in matl master.
Situation:
I've some materials without MRP views in material master data but apparently this doesn't affect to release order. In this case, this material hasn't this views and it's impossible to release the order. I'm supposing the problem is not related with the fill up of this views or the field in material master data, because for other materials with the same situation the release is running.
Anybody has any idea?
Thanks a lot,
Regards

Dear ,
You are facing this error because :
- you have activated avaialbility check, but checkingb group is not maintained in material master of the component
- if maintained in material master, in configuraion checking group and checking rule combination is not maintained
- if above both are maintained then in the checking control for the order type is maintained, but in the control you maintained the setting that - release not possible if no availability, hence change it to user control option.
*So Goto MM02- material master -MRP3 view -Maintain the Availability check field as 01/02 as applicable for components in the production *
For more clarification , you can investigate the below : For production order avilablity check and release u have should following settings.
1. Define checking Group - SPRO
2. Define checking Rule- SPRO.
3. Define scope of check - OPJJ - Scope of the avilabilty check is defined for the Combination of Checking group and Checking rule. Check contol is defined for each comination of checking group and checking rule.
4.Define Chek control -OPJK : Checking rule is linked to Ordertype/Plant combination.
while releasing the production order system will do avilability check as per the settings In OPJK for ordertype/plant combination.
Hope this is clear to you
Regards
JH
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Jun 20, 2010 9:20 AM

Aligning alerts with atp check

Dear SDN
Is there a possibility to configure the "scope of check" for alerts? For example: I would like to check the situation for a planned or process order and if the components are available, using the alert monitor from the ppds planning board. I will not have the system should consider purchase requisitions as a reciept as they are very unreliable, and the same with planned orders for components. I want an alert if there are (no stock) and no purchase orders / production orders. In principle, we want the alerts to be generated according to the ATP check that we have setup. Is that possible?.
Thanks in advance / Ann

You can use standard ATP alert monitor.
It is set up in /sapapo/amon1.
If you want to know more about ATP monitor see note 500051.
Best Regards

Can we reverse the status of the planned/prod order with ATP check

Dear all,
i ahve 1 query. When in the product view, if u select any planned order/prod order, and click on ATP check.
if the quantity is confiremd, then the stutus of the orde change to checked and confirmed.
i want to know can we change this status. can we reverse this status.??
let me know ASAP. if yes plz explain in deatils
Regards
Pravin Mukkawar

hi Praveen
You can reverse/change the status of a Planned Order if it shows "checked and fully confirmed/partially confirmed" in
/sapapo/rrp4( process receipts).
To do this, enter your location product and run the transaction. be sure you are in change mode.you will get a list of planned orders.select your planned order and select the "pegging structue conversion" push button. then in the next screen select the valid line and push the "delete ATP status" button.
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Regards
Mohan V R Chunchu

Problem with ATP check.

Hello SAP Gurus,
While checking sales order in u201Cscope of checku201D the u201Cinclude purchase orderu201D button is checked. so could some please explain me this scenario, because my client can able to print the pick list for one delivery when the stock quantity is zero.
thanks
Sha

Hello,
Is there any way to stop the print pick list until the GR has been received for Pos but we want to create the delivery? Only we want to stop printing the pick list.
Because my client faced problem u2013 they print the pick list and informed to the customer that we are sending the material but my received the material one day later.
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Sha

ATP check with including puchase order

when we create SO with ATP check to reserve the qty of the currenct stock, we also want to know the future qty of purchase orders so that we can clearly know the supply and demand of these materials.
so we use ATP check with including purchase order, that users can reserve the qty of open GR purchase orders.
but when the status of that PO changed, the reserved qty before won't have effect, and can't create outbound delivery either.
there are two examples below:
1. there is one SO reserved 10 material qty of the open GR PO, which it's scheduled delivery date is 5/15. but this PO still hasn't goods receipt until 5/17, cause ATP check rule is "Include future receipts only" ( if "Receipts in the past as well as in the future" is set, it will be confused with current stock qty), so these 10 qty won't have effect and the ATP qty is now a negative. we should only reserve again by t-code V_V2, otherwise all the reserved qty can't be deliveried.
2.there is one SO reserved 10 material qty of the open GR PO, which it's scheduled delivery date is 5/15, but when the delivery date of confirms tab is updated by vendor, these reserved qty before will also be invalid.
please tell me how to resolve these problems?

Hi,
If the business wants to confirm the sales order quantity against the incoming purchase orders, then this always happen. The issue can be resolved only by rescheduling the sales order by running V_V2 everyday.
Alternatively you can suggest the business to exclude the purchase order from availabilty check(AC) in t.code OVZ9 and include shipping notification in it. When the vendor sends some materials confirmation, the purchasing can add the shipping notificatoin details in the purchase order and can create Inbound deliveries for goods receipt. By this way, only when the vendor ships the goods, the quantity will be taken into AC.
Regards,

Free goods with combination of material determination

Hi All,
I have Materil X for this free good is Y. But for material Y there is material determination with A. In this case what will happen while i am entering the material X in the sale order/
As of my knowledge freegoods don't support for any special function like BOM & vairant config. I don't know about the material det.
Please clarify this doubt.
Regards
Sunil

Hi Sunil,
You can see Material Determination and Free goods as two seperate issues.
For material X, Material Y will be a free good only when material Y is available in stock. The system will not substitute materiail Y with material A just because you have material determination configured for the same.
On the other hand, if you enter material Y on its own i.e. seperately at the line item level of the sales order..........then material determination will occur and the item will be substituted by material A.
See both of them as two seperate scenarios.
Hope its clear.............
Regards
Sai

ATP Check not workin properly for Batches in MMBE

Dear PP gurus,
I have a problem with ATP check for materials. When i see in MMBE for a material which has 3 batches it shows a problem: The batch a has a quantity 10 but it shows the reserved quantity against this batch as 12. Same is for batch B,ATP check not giving correct results. Please tell me how to correct it.
Some one told me to implement OSS note 1237093 to correct the standard program error introduced with Note 330828.
Please advise how to proceed.

Hi,
Reservation is a kind of requirement. The situation that you describe, that you have in batch A 10 in stock and the reserved quantity is 12 can happen if, for example, you created a production order where this batch is a component, the batch was determined in the order, and either you didn't do an ATP check at batch level, or you issued stock from this batch at a later point in time (without poper ATP).
MMBE is just a report, it is not doing ATP.
I suggest that you review your ATP definitions and processes to find out where the problem is.
Regards,
Mario

SAP SD Material Determination not reflected in assigned sales document type

Hi Experts,
I have implemented customized material determination, with requirement to change the UoM of the entered material, from GJ to MJ. I have assigned the procedure to 3 document types:
1. sales order type
2. credit memo request
3. debit memo request
However, this setup is only reflected in the 1st sales document assigned with the procedure. It is not reflected in the credit or debit memo request.
I have turned on the material determination analysis in sales order. Per my checking during credit memo request creation, the analysis indicated that the condition is found successfully. But the UoM did not change in the document.
Please assist.
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HJMY
Edited by: HJMY on Sep 20, 2011 1:24 PM

Hi Ravi,
Thx for your reply.
But I am creating credit/debit memo request without reference to billing.
When I create credit/debit memo request, the material determination is triggered.
Per my test today for credit memo request, I found that the material determination is triggered.
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ATP check not working properly for batches

Dear PP gurus,
I have a problem with ATP check for materials. When i see in MMBE for a material which has 3 batches it shows a problem: The batch a has a quantity 10 but it shows the reserved quantity against this batch as 12. Same is for batch B,ATP check not giving correct results. Please tell me how to correct it.
Some one told me to implement OSS note 1237093 to correct the standard program error introduced with Note 330828.
Please advise how to proceed.

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ATP CHECK in all storage Location of the Plant

Dear gurus,
we have the stock for the component in the storage location :
Storage Location A 10 PZ
Storage Location B 30 pz
Storage location C 40 pz
In the planned order for this component there is the storage location A.
The ATP check ( in the transaction MDVP) confirm the quantity only in the storage location A, but i would like confim the quantity stock of all the storage location, also having to maintain the storage location A in the position of the component in the planned order.
For example for the planned order the requirement for this component is 30 pz , when i run the atp check the system confirm only 10 pz in the storage location A present in the position of the component, but i need confirm all quantity because present in others storage location, also having to maintain the storage location A in the position of the component in the planned order.
I need see in the avalaible ATP check all the storage location of the plant, there are the customizing setting or material master setting.
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Daniele Pistilli

Daniele,
First determine which ATP check is being used for your planned orders in OPPJ under plant or MRP group. Then, also in OPPJ, under 'Determine Check', modify that availability check by ticking the 'no stor locn inspectn' box.
Perhaps you can advise your 'friend' [Luca Malavasi|http://forums.sdn.sap.com/profile.jspa?userID=841888], of this response as well. He has asked the same question.
Atp Check see all storage location of the plant
I won't blindly assume that a single person is using more than one userid on these forums. Many of the moderators do not permit this practice..
Rgds,
DB49

To Turn OFF ATP check in APO-GATP Instead do locally in ECC.

Dear SAP Friends,
Currently for Sales orders & Deliveries, we have ATP Check (Allocation Check + Product Check) happening in APO-GATP. We would like to turn-off ATP check in APO-GATP, instead want to do only Inventory Check in ECC locally.
We want to do above for few particular model/plant combinations and not for all model/plant combinations. Meaning APO-GATP will still be used for many other APO relevant Model/Plant combinations.
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Please guide me with stepwise instructions.
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Thank
Satish
Edited by: SatishW on Jun 18, 2010 9:33 PM

Hi Satish ,
I am not an expert on GATP but logically what I can suggest following steps :
1.As you want ATP check to happen in APO for few codes, you will have to Select/Tick 'Material Independant Object' - ATP Customization in CIF IM , so that ATP customizing settings are transferred to APO from ECC.
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