MBP 17" glossy vs antiglare

I want to buy 17" MBP and I am having very hard times deciding whether to choose glossy or antiglare screen.
I know that glossy is more vivid. However, the main thing for me is that it must be OK for my eyes. Therefore, if antiglare reduces UV radiation and the eyestrain I will buy it.
Anyone could suggest whether antiglare will be much better?
P.S. I am using the old plastic MacBook 13" now. Does it have glossy or antiglare screen?

' Whoops! Sorry Dina - I somehow missed your reply entirely!!! Mayhap I forgot to mark the thread for watching...
' Anyways - assuming you still need a reply to this question - no, calibration isn't really a concern from the perspective of which screen to choose...
' You can successfully and professionally calibrate both types of screens. You will find that there are some media professionals who swear by matte, and others that do the same for glossy - so again it comes down to preferance.
' If you yourself are in a situation where you require such calibration for professional reasons then you need consider what you yourself believe works "best" for you, and you need to consider your work environment. If you're working in locations that are controlled and relatively static (from a lighting conditions perspective) then either screen-type would do fine. If, however, you work in locations where you aren't in control of the lighting or are working in outdoor or light-flooded environments, then I would suggest that matte would be a better choice.
' But again, there are media professionals that work in all sorts of environments that swear they can successfully do their jobs with either - it really depends on what it is you like, and just how much you're willing to put up with constant adjustments to the position of your laptop and / or screen. Again I say there's far less hoop-jumping involved in using a matte screen - but if you're working in a position where colour-accuracy is important, then theoretically ANY kind of reflection is to be avoided - whether it's diffuse like on a matte screen, or sharp and defined as per glossy - so position adjustments are going to necessary and unavoidable one way or another.
' My suggestion? Go with what turns you on!
' It's the only way to be happy.
' Later,
~Menageryl

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This is fine in locations where one can control the enviroment and reduce the screen reflections, like your mothers dark basement.
But if you live above ground like the rest of us and cherish the warm bright sun streaming into your windows, or use the computer outside next to the pool or catching up on your news while you have breakfast on the porch, or in your car or in various classrooms with their overhead lights, then your going to want a anti-glare display.
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Some people have adverse affects to glossy screens right away, or within a few days of use. Some don't have the condition right away, they will likely have it in the future, first sign is one begins rubbing their eyes after using the computer. If this occurs to you, it's the glare, buy and apply a film and suffer with it's ugliness, pealing, cracking and drying out like we did back in the CRT days.
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Black bezel? More eyecandy that nobody cares about a week later when they need the machine to function as the tool it's supposed to be.
But oh! the glossy displays sure look good the stores where Apple controls the lights.
Some interesting information. It was HP (yea the one that is now exiting the personal computer business) that introduced glossy displays when they were looking for a marketing advantage after they bought Compaq. They did a blind test in a controlled room and just regular people choose the glossy displays over the dull matte.
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However technology like that is properitary and patented, has military applications and advantages, and since China is well crooked China, and Apple makes all their hardware there...well you get the picture.
It's too bad really, because anti-glare glass and acrylic is simply wonderful, all the color and sharpness of glossy displays without the reflections.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X0wo6dIsMU
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/05/23/glossy-vs-matte-screens-why-the-pc-indus trys-out-of-touch/

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Hi,
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tjk wrote:
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• Longer battery life is alleged, which matters not to me but some folks care.
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Sorry, your comments only confirm the post above. Below is a copy of a comment from Charles Higgins posted to Maintouch. I copied it for posting here (I hope that is legal).
Charles Higgins
To those who must work in bright, unshaded sunlight, Hoodman makes a pretty good reflection/glare 'hood' (sic) that does its job, except it's godawful ugly and bulky.
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