Memory or ram preventing startup?

When Irty to start my HP G71, it won't start up, it just has the Caps light, space bar, etc...
When I take out the nearest memory card (513766-001) ((it has sticker replace with HP Spare) in the slot nearest the bottom of the computer it starts right up. However, my HP G71 is unable to shut down to total off
on its own without me prssing down power button. What am I doing wrong or has
the memory gone bad?

You're very welcome.
I think you would need to replace the motherboard, which probably wouldn't be worth the time and money to do.
Please note that I am not a PC repair technician. While I can't think of anything else it could be but a defective system board, there is no guarantee that replacing the board will do the trick. Again, it probably will, but...
However, it is your money...so it's your decision.
Below is the link to the service manual.
http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01713747/c01713747.pdf
Please see chapter 3. The system board is # 13, and you can either get the part number from your old board and match it up, or if you know what processor or chipset you have, and if it comes with the nvidia graphics card or not, you can select the part # by knowing those items.
For example, if your notebook has one of the core 2 duos (like the P8700) and it does not have the nvidia graphics, the board would be the GM45 board, HDMI.
You enter the part number in the parts store at the link below, and you will see that a replacement board costs $238.45
http://h20141.www2.hp.com/Hpparts/Default.aspx?mscssid=8214C57818034CAFA0C017BFC2BAA6FC
To me, that is a lot of money, and if you do the job yourself, and you have never done it before, it will be challenging to say the least.
Review chapter 4 for the removal and replacement procedures.
I know I wouldn't want to do it. I would probably mess the installation up big time.
Paul

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New RAM in iBook prevents startup

Hey everyone,
My little 5+ year-old iBook G4 (933MHz) is so old, but still working fine, so I decided to buy 512MB of RAM from OWC. I'm trying to make it last until OSX 10.6, haha. I made sure the new RAM is EXACTLY the same as my old RAM (PC2100 DDR 266MHz 200 Pin), just bigger. I even compared the two when I installed it.
On startup, I get nothing but the chime. The screen stays black. I don't even hear the HD spin up. I have no idea if it's on or not, so I just pull the battery. When I put my old memory back in, it works fine, with or without the airport card.
I thought if memory was bad, it should still boot, since it has 128MB built in. So I can't tell if it's being recognized or not (well, obviously it's being recognized, it won't start up!)
Any clues as to what the problem might be? I guess I can exchange the RAM, but it would be for exactly the same type.
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Also, I've noticed that if a computer doesn't like a RAM module, it won't boot--even if the second one is perfectly fine. Make sure you've got the RAM seated properly and if it still misbehaves, exchange it for another module.
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~Lyssa

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Hi,
I was thinking of upgrading my Mid 2010 Macbook Pro's 4GB of Memory to 8GB (2X4GB).
I have heard roumors that it will slow down startup times. Also, it sounds obvious, but will it help with gaming performance and reducing lag during games?
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Don't let that concern you---it's not that big a pause. RAM is your friend. Thomas Reed's advice to use Activity Monitor is your best helper.
My older MBP has 2G RAM and can hold 6G, but AM has never told me I need more. Here what AM's RAM report looks like this morning:
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This problem started when I moved from a G3 Yikes machine to a G4 AGP Graphics machine.
The items in use in the G3, making the trek to the G4 are...
2 Internal drives
1 internal SCSI drive
1 Adaptec SCSI card
1 MOTU 324 Card
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The video card from the G3 as an additional video card for a second monitor.
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The G3 right up till the transfer of gear was running fine on new PC100 RAM, 4 - 256 Mb sticks, the max for it, and usable in the G4, theoretically. The G4 up till the transfer was running fine with 2 RAM sticks of PC100 RAM, one 128 and one 64.
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G4 - RAM: 64/128/256 MB standard on 400/450/500 MHz models, expandable to 1.5 GB using PC100 SDRAM (3.3V, unbuffered, 64-bit, 168-pin, 100 MHz) in 4 DIMM slots
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Hello,
I have two XP-pc's with NI-488.2 (ver. 2.30) and MAX (ver. 4.0.0.3010) installed.
Both pc's give on startup an nipalsm.exe memory error (see attachment).
When starting MAX, (if no error) no installed hardware is shown.
On both pc's also McAfee Virusscan 8.00 is running.
What does nipalsm.exe (internal) that can cause this error ?
With thanks,
best regards,
Geert
Message Edited by GeertVN on 11-03-2005 12:55 AM
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Hi,
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Try the latest driver, version 2.4:
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Prevent Startup Form from Loading using Command Line Arguments

Hi there
I'm developing a VB.NET windows forms application in VS2013.
The application will have 2 ways of being executed, one being by the user manually and the other being automated by the task scheduler.
When executed by the task scheduler, command line arguments will be used so that the application is aware that it is being run automatically and not by a user.
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Hi Aureuz,
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I have a 3-month old MacBook Pro, Snow Leopard, 8 gb RAM. 75% alloted to Photoshop - is this too high? Must be the default, as I haven't changed it yet.
I am running CS3. Worked great for a few months, but lately if I have any other program open, I am unable to open up Black & White adjustment. I get this error message:
"Could not complete your request because there is not enough memory (RAM)."
If Photoshop is the only open program, I am able to do B&W but it is crippling to my workflow. I am only opening 1 or 2 photos at once.
Bridge also crashes almost daily when browsing RAWs and PSDs.
Seems like with 8 GB on a brand new machine this shouldn't be happening. Any ideas?
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75% is rather a lot as it will not leave very much for the MacOS to page. Try reducing it to 60% and see what happens.
Its also important to make sure that there is a decent amount of free space on the hard disk as Photoshop will want to create a "virtual image" file on the HD when it runs low on RAM . . . 5Gb is minimum, although 10Gb is not a bad idea.
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hi!
i have a Imac G5 running version 10.5.6 and was curious as to go abouts seeing major files and deleteing them.
i have only 2GB of memory left on my entire hard drive and need to delete files and figure what is taking up so much memory.
thanks!

Hi amon2356;
Disk space is not generally referred to as memory. The term memory is reserved for RAM.
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Here is the HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC Maintenance and Service Guide for your information. Please note page 60, chapter 4 for the memory modules.
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