Migration from Former budgeting to BCS

Dear experts,
is there anybody who has experience with migration from FB to BCS?
If yes, which method have you used - from scratch, migrating totals or migrating documents and what
problems have you met during the course of migrating?
Thank you in advance,
Toni

Hi,
I did this migration in some 8-10 projects; all sorts of methods. Normally, if you follow the steps which are described in help.sap.com you should not encounter any problems, if you have no special developments done in FM.
Regards,
Eli

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Steps to migrate from former budgeting to BCS

can any one suggest the complete steps to migrate from former budgeting to BCS and what are the steps which are to specially cared of.

Hi,
Follow these instructions:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7b/981b57da056c48904c8a9c0df67b51/frameset.htm
They are quite complete and if you do not have any specific developments in your SAP system, then you should not encounter any problem during the migration process.
Regards,
Eli

Former Budgeting Vs BCS

Hi Guys,
We have to configure the "Funds Management" Module for our client. What would you guys suggest we should opt for
1. Former Budgeting
2. Budget Control Systems
Appreciate and value your suggestion and if some one has the latest documentaion available for BCS, can you please forward or atleast tell us where to look for it.
Regards
Saqib

Hi Saqib,
Please find below mentiones some important point wise comaprison of both BCS Vs budgeting.
BCS:The functions in this component support budget planning, budget execution and allow you to monitor the availability of funds.The budget control system (BCS) in Funds Management is an alternative to former budgeting. BCS is designed to allow flexible customer-specific adjustments to all important functions. BCS is SAPs strategic budgeting tool.
Implementation Considerations:If you use the Grants Management component integrated with Funds Management, only BCS fulfills the prerequisites necessary for this. This also applies if you want to work with funded programs for the account assignment. The required FM account assignment elements Grant and Funded Program are only supported in BCS.
SAP does not intend BCS and Former Budgeting to be used at the same time. Therefore, menu transactions, functions and the necessary Customizing are separate.
If you want to use the budget control system as an operative budgeting tool in Funds Management, you must activate this in the Customizing of Funds Management, under Basic Settings->Activate Global Functions for Budget Control System ( BCS).
Integration:All other FM master data is also supported in BCS, as well grant and funded program master data.
BCS includes an integrated planning tool with basis functions for budget planning. If you want to use comprehensive budget planning, you can exchange data with SAPs Strategic Enterprise Management.
You can use BCS together with Position Budgeting and Control (PA-PM-PB).
The Business Information Warehouse System (BW) is intended as a comprehensive reporting tool for the budget control system, starting from Release 3.0B. You can upload your BCS planning data from BW. BCS only works with Funds Management and Grants Management, not with other components that can also budget.
Features: You can select the relevant FM account assignments as budget addresses and posting addresses from the entirety of the master data combinations, by using the functions of the Budget Structure.
·        Budget distribution and the assignment of posting addresses, budget addresses and availability control objects in BCS depends on the master data hierarchy, which you can define as you wish by using derivation strategies defined in Customizing.
·        Customer-definable budget types, entry document types and consistency checks in BCS Budgeting allow you to map the requests of your organization in the system.
·        Budget entry and budget update activities are based on documents and are logged in budget entry documents. You display and maintain these in the Budgeting Workbench.
·        Status Management allows you to subdivide the budget execution process in individual budgeting phases and define specific user roles through different authorization assignments.
·        The BCS Availability Control is a flexible tool that you can customize to monitor and compare budget values and commitment/actual values. This control allows you to use independent availability control checks simultaneously.
Restrictions:The budget control system delivered with the Enterprise-Release (EA-PS 1.10) is new and will be enhanced with additional functions in following releases.Functions such as revenues increasing the budget and releases are supported with release EA-PS 2.00. SAP also provides support for migration from Former Budgeting to BCS.
Note that BCS reporting functions are not designed for comprehensive management reporting. You must use the Business Information Warehouse system as of Release 3.0B. BCS is not intended for use by German Government customers.Because of the reasons given above, SAP recommends that you analyze your organizations existing functions and requirements.
Hope I had been able to help you. Please assign points.
Rgds
Manish

Migration from FB (Former Budgeting) to BCS - Commitments/Actuals

Dear Experts,
We are going to migrate our system from FB (Former Budgeting) to BCS, in the middle of the current year.
The migration activities deal only with Budget data migration.
My question is: How to migrate Commitments and Actuals ?
We use only Payment Budget
Please advise
Yaacov

Dear Yaakov,
Are you thoroughly clear on the concept and functionality of Budget Control System?
Compared to FB, BCS provides changes to 2 main functionalities in PSM-FM:
1, Budgeting/planning
2, Availability Control (AVC)
-> This means, that the processes / functionalities / technical details for commitments/actuals are not changed in any way by implementing / migrating BCS.
The BCS implementation changes the data structures for budgeting tables. That is why migration of data from old budget tables to new ones is needed (even this is not mandatory, if you choose to use old reports for old budget data). You can check budget table correspondency between FB and BCS here: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_rc10/helpdata/en/c3/2c344071c82b22e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
The main point is, that commitment/actuals data is not changed, and thus no migration for those is possible (or needed). The commitments remain to be updated in table FMIOI and actuals in table FMIT. You just need to use the new BCS reports to view for example budget consumption when BCS has been activated (for example report FMRP_RW_BUDCON).
Also, you might want to consider if the migration of the old budget data is overall an absolutely mandatory requirement. Technically, you do not need to run any migration, but you can use old FB reports for previous fiscal years and just simply load only future budgeting data into the BCS. At my customer it was decided that no migration is needed, and we went successfully live with BCS withtout any issues. For past fiscal years they will be using FB reports.
Best regards,
Mikko
Edited by: Mikko Seppänen on Jan 2, 2012 9:28 AM
Edited by: Mikko Seppänen on Jan 2, 2012 9:31 AM

Hotkey (Ctrl+B) is not working after migration from Forms 6i to 10g

Dear Gurus,
Need your help regarding the following problem:
After migrating from Forms 6i to 10g (Rel 2), Ctrl+B (used to list the blocks in a form) hotkey is not working anymore (all other hotkeys are working fine). I've checked my FMRWEB.RES and it contains an entry for Ctrl+B:
66 : 2 : "Ctrl+B" : 70 : "Block Menu"
Additional Information:
OS: AIX
NLS_LANG = UTF8
fmrweb_utf8.res also contains the same text for Ctrl+B as above.
I tried to reproduce it on my Windows Machine (with NLS_LANG set to AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1) and its not working as well. I don't have right to put move files on AIX server but i can try anything (on my local system) suggested by the Oracle gurus.
Best Regards,

Dear Gerd,
"are you sure, that it is the hotkey"
Yes, i am dead sure. Since:
(1) It was working fine in forms 6i
(2) If you run a form and select Help => Keys, you will see Ctrl+B on the top of list
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Run a report in Forms 9i after migration from Forms 6i

Hi,
I face the following problem:
We do have to migrate from Forms 6i to 9i. In our "old" application, reports where called by using RUN_PRODUCT (in different forms and menues). But to start a report in 9i environment, RUN_REPORT_OBJECT must be used. Does the report has to be an object in the calling form or is it possble to start it as we used to directly from the file system ?
Regards,
Markus

hi
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use only if u r using reports parameter form
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P_SERVER_NAME=rep_devserver P_ACTION=http://devserver:7778/reports/rwservlet?');
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for reports with out any parameters
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LOOP
rep_status := report_object_status(v_rep);
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message('Error when running report');
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Do we need to migrate webutil.pll and webutil.olb files as well during migration?

Best regards,
I have a tool to migrate from Forms & Reports Ordem call, which allows the automatic migration of Oracle Forms Developer written in versions 3.0, 4.5, 5.0, 6i or 9i to the latest version Oracle Forms Developer 10g to 10g or JAVA .
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I want to know ho to go about for migrating from forms 3.0
to forms 7.0?
Also I want to know what does the object type
sqr,rpt,pc & ext stand for?
thanks in advance.
Regards,
Debasish.

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Anyway to migrate a Form I would suggest looking at the OTN papers as we have a note on migrating Forms 3 -> Forms 6.
otn.oracle.com/products/forms
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Migrating from Forms 3.0 to Forms 6.0

Can we migrate from Forms 3.0 to Forms 6.0
directly using Developer 6.0 tool.

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We are currently upgrading our app. from forms 3.0 to 6i
charaacter-mode.
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Display graphs in 10g on migration from forms 6i

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Why upgrade from Former Budgeting to Budget Control System (BCS)

Dear experts,
My customer had upgraded his system to ECC6, and still uses the "Former Budgeting".
I want the customer to consider implementing BCS instead.
Please let me know where I can find the list of differences between FB and BCS, and the advantages of this act.
Regards,
Y.G.

Hi Yaakov,
You can look at this link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7b/981b57da056c48904c8a9c0df67b51/frameset.htm
Basically, the main advantage is more flexibility in availability control and key figures reporting. However, you should also consider the fact that Former Budgeting is not supported anymore by SAP in terms of developing new features; all the development is done now only in BCS.
Regards,
Eli

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Migration from Form 4.5 to 6.0 PLS-00363

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Hello,
Does anyone know how to migrate numerous data from Oracle forms to reports, without using parameter lists or parameters, and also withour the use of temporary tables since my platform is 8.0.6 and forms 4.5?
Thanks for any replies

hi daniel,
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Is there any difference between these two versions ? If No then why there are two diff versions in 10g Forms itself (9.0.4 and 10.1.2)
Which version of JInitiator I have to use for forms 10g ?

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