Mixing 1440 x 1080 with 1920 x1080

I have two Canon video cameras, the XHA1 which shoots HDV @ 1440 x 1080 @ 23.98FPS and a Canon 7D which shoots H2.64 @ 1920 x 1080 @ 23.98 FPS. I want to inter mix them in the same Final Cut timeline of ProRes 422.
Since the majority of the footage was shot on the 7D I would prefer to up scale the XHA1 footage from 1440 to 1920. Can this be done and if so how?
Thanks
Kent

I am not cross posting. It would seem to me that I would need to convert the XHA1 clips to 1920 x 1080 and that I should do that in Compressor. I am not sure of what or if that can be done. Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent

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