Monitor Calibration using .icm file.....

Hi There,
I'm really need to calibrate my monitor using a particular .icm file - only thing is, when I copy it into the right folder, it doesn't show up in system preferences.....
I think it needs to be an .icc file for it to work?
Does anyone know how to convert the file?

Have a read of this:
http://lists.apple.com/archives/colorsync-users/2004/Feb/msg00135.html
My guess: You have a bad file. Go back to the source and get a clean copy. You could try changing the extension to .icc, but it should not be necessary.
In any case, I have to question what you are doing. I'd like to know more details before I throw the book at your for using a 3rd party profile for your particular display. Ideally you should make your own profile for your own particular display. Apple provide a reasonable rough and ready method in the Display preference pane which works fine considering that none of Apple's laptops are capable of showing more than 18 bit color, aka 260,000 colors. The OS dithers the missing colors to fake 'millions of colors'. Essentially, doing quality color calibration and color matching with a MacBook or MacBook Pro LCD display is impossible. The best you will get is a guestimation. Bounce me a note if you would like to talk about it in depth. I used to teach color management.
:-Derek

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Hello, I have a problem. Normally I shot in RAW, edit the image, save a jpg (with sRGB Color space) resized for an on-line printing service and another jpg in full size and resolution.
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After I run a monitor calibration software, I thought all the photos would look correct on my computer no matter what app I use to display them.
But photos in photoshop looks slightly different from the same photo displayed by the browser or by other applets in windows. So slightly different that you wouldn't normally notice unless you do a side by side compare.
Apparently photoshop is applying additional color correction on top of what the monitor calibration software has already done. Is this necessary? If this step is necessary, then why doesn't the monitor calibration software do that, so that photoshop doesn't have to, and so that the photo would look the same in the browser as in photoshop?

Apparently photoshop is applying additional color correction on top of
what the monitor calibration software has already done. Is this
necessary? If this step is necessary, then why doesn't the monitor
calibration software do that, so that photoshop doesn't have to,
Photoshop doesn't apply any color correction to the images per se, it just operates in a selected color space, and takes into account your monitor profile.
The monitor calibration tells your video card - or the monitor itself for some high end monitors, how it should be set to meet chosen targets, and generates a profile for the monitor.
1. Caibrate your monitor and generate a profile
2. Tell your OS that that it your monitor profile
3. Set Photoshop to work in the space of your choice - sRGB, Adobe RGB, or ProPhoto 99% of the time
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Apparently photoshop is applying additional color correction on top of
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I would also download the free Eye-One Diagnostics software from the X-Rite site and make sure your instrument is working properly. Just a sanity check.

IdeaCentre A520 FHD Screen ICM file

For those whom don't have a screen calibrator (i.e. Spyder3 or Spyder4, etc), and want a more accurate colour profile i have attached the ICM file from the Spyder4 Pro screen calibrator.
To load the ICC profile, download the file, and unzip it. Then right click on the file, and click on 'Install Profile'.
Regards,
Jin Li
May this year, be the year of 'DO'!
I am a volunteer, and not a paid staff of Lenovo or Microsoft
Attachments:
IdeaCenter A520 FHD IPS.icm.zip ‏3 KB

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