Monitoring 720 25p

Hi
I have an SD Sony monitor and am trying to monitor hdv 720p 25. Nearing exasperation!
Apparantly none of the cards for the Mac actually handle 720p 25 hdv and down convert to sd for monitoring.
I have tried using a cable splitter and to come out of the dvi port and convert to s video but just get lines - no picture.
Firewire wont handle hdv through a camera deck either.
Can anyone help am I missing something?
Thanks
Trevor

FCP 5.1.2, the most current version, supports 25p HDV.
All high def capture cards support this format: Decklink Extreme HD, AJA Kona LH (Kona 3 with converter box), Matrox MXO (MXO is output only).
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