Motion 5 without FCPX

Is anyone using Motion 5 with Final Cut Pro, but without Final Cut X installed at all?
Given the warnings and complicated workarounds that Apple is issuing --
Installation Best Practice guide from Apple
-- it sounds as though each launch of Motion 5 will disable Final Cut Pro until
Motion 4 is launched again. Is that your experience?

This workflow works for me without any problems. I wanted an updated copy of Motion but couldn't afford a copy of FCP for the time being.
I record the audio track, import it into Motion, and build the animation. Then I export the whole thing to a .MOV file and import it into Final Cut Pro 7.
There is an odd problem where FCP will occasionally fail to recognize a file when I try to reload it after changing it on disk. It will be shown as offline when the new file is saved, and it stays offline even after the new file is good. Reimporting it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. Shutting down and restarting FCP, and then re-importing the file has solved the problem in every case so far.
Hope that helps.
D

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Can Motion be used as a stand-alone app, without FCPX?

Can "Motion 5" be used as a stand-alone app, without FCPX?

Yes.
It's loud.
70-some decibels of loud, particularly when the fans spool up.
And you need a big flat spot, or a 19" rack.

Is it possible morphing in motion without plugins?

Hello:
I´d like to know if is it possible do a morphing in motion without external plugins?
Thanks a lot.

hi,
no not possible in Motion without plugins. Although not the same there's no substitute for a dissolve and a couple of clever masks.
adam

Can you still use soft motion without the scan engine on crio?

Where are the trajectory generator property and invoke nodes in softmotion for LV 2011?
These functions are not longer found in the pallet? Are they no longer supported?
All the new soft motion examples are using the scan engine. Can I use soft motion without the scan engine????
Steve
SteveA
CLD
FPGA/RT/PDA/TP/DSC

Hi Ian,
I apologize that this wasn't stated in the release notes. While your code should have upgraded without breaking, the release documentation should have mentioned that the advanced trajectory genertor functionality is no longer supported. If you still want to use the trajectory generator functions, they are still shipped with SoftMotion, they are just not on the palette. I have attached a zip file that has 4 .mnu files that will get them on the palette. To install these, do the following:
Close LabVIEW
Make a copy of the following directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\National Instruments\LabVIEW 2011\menus\Categories\VisionMotion\_nism. In case something goes wrong, we will want to have a copy of this directory so that we can replace it.
Copy the 4 .mnu files from the attachement into the above _nism directory (the original, not the copy). If it asks you to replace any of the exisiting files, please do. You don't have to copy the readonly.txt file.
Start LabVIEW. You should know have the trajectory generator functions in your SoftMotion Advanced palette.
Keep in mind that we no longer support these functions. This means that they are not tested in new releases and any bugs will likely not get fixed.
I would recommend that you use the new API for any new designs. You can still get most of the functionality of the old API but without the complexity. If you want to generate setpoints at 5ms then you will run the scan engine at 5ms. This is certainly easier than having to do the timing yourself, but it does take away some control from the user. If you give me a brief overview of what you mean by synchronization, I will let you know the best way to do it with the new API.
Thanks,
Paul B.
Motion Control R&D
Attachments:
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No "Send to Motion" in FCPX

I'm using Final Cut ProX (ver 10.2.4) and Motion 5 (ver 5.1.2) and trying to "import" video files into Motion 5. I do not have a "Send to Motion" option within FCPX. And I can't seem to find a way to import video files directly into Motion 5.

1. There is no send to Motion in FCPX.
2. Depending on what you need (source clips, section of the edit, timeline range). You can use the Share options to export the clip to a format like ProRes422 or 4444, and then import those clips into Motion. When you are done in Motion, export back out to a high quality codec and add the render into your Final Cut project.
See the "Share projects, clips, and ranges" section of the "Share your project" chapter in the user manual.
3. In some cases, you may be able to achieve what you need by using Final Cut Effects/Titles/Generators and just add the effects onto your clip in FCP.

Will Compressor 4 run as a stand alone without FCPX?

Will Compressor 4 run as a stand alone without FCPX?
I use FCP 7.0.3 and have COmpressor 3. I wondered if Compressor 4 would run on my MacPro and would I see any improvement over Compressor 3?
4 isn't tied down to FCPX I hope.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Steve

Unless you need some special encoding that compressor 3.5 can't do, I would not "upgrade" to version 4. I bought the new version after FCP X hosed my version of 3.5 thinking it would solve my problem. It only created more problems for me. (BTW, I was subsequently able to resurrect the 3.5 version with compressor repair and doing a bunch of other stuff!) The new version has Apple Qmaster incorporated into it which on the surface looks like an advantage. But I have not been able to get it to form a quick cluster despite numerous attempts. I have "spoken" to Russ on the forum here and he can't figure it out. I have spoken several times to a seemingly knowlegable Apple care specialist- they can reproduce my problem but they can't fix it either. Consequently, encoding is much slower in Compressor 4 vs 3. If compressor 3 is doing what you need it to do, stick with it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!!!
Steve

How to get good slow motion w/FCPX?

Okay, so I've been trying to get some good slow motion video. I'm new to this whole video thing, but I'm fortunate enough to be able to have some cool toys even though I don't know how to use them yet! Anyway, here are my questions (prefaced by some details to help you answer my questions!).
What I'm working with:
Two cameras
1) GoPro shooting at 720p, 60 FPS
2) Canon Vixia HF G10 shooting at 1080i, 60 FPS
- In case my terminology is wrong, the GoPro shoots in 60p, and the Canon shoots at 60i....not sure the best way to describe it.
Editing with:
- FCPX
- I don't have Motion 5 or Compressor yet, but I can get it if its necessary for any reason
Goal that I'm working toward:
- I want to get some smooth "creamy" slow motion footage every now and then when the video I'm making calls for it.
- Here's a couple examples of the type of slow motion I'm hoping to end up with:
- (right about at the 3:10 point)
Problem I'm having:
- With the GoPro (60p), I can only slow down to 50% speed before it starts to look choppy. Slower than that Optical Flow will work a little bit, but it still looks very amateur.
- With the Canon (60i, but much higher quality video), I can barely slow it down at all without it looking choppy and sloppy.
Questions:
- Am I doing something wrong?
- Do I need to download other software?
- Anybody willings to give me a step by step instruction?!
- I'm stumped...any help will be great!
Thanks!

I'm a bit short having time for my tests, but what I found out so far.
• avoid any 'natural motion blurr' in your recordings
• if optional on your device, select super-short shutter speed (<1/1000th), depending on 'action' in front of cam (ever wondered why those demos are preferred in bright sunlight? )
• avoid too high 'angle speed' = too fast too close: if the picture content changes too fast btw. frame#1 and frame#2 the eye is not able to blend the content = stutter
• Optical Flow: excellent on small angle speed, failing on fast angle speed or rotation:
watch my short demo here (YT-link) testing speeds and blending modes:
(recording 720/60p, ~1/1000th shutter speed, Project setting 25p)
• notice the perfect blending of motion far away from cam (player girl in green)
• notice the unwanted 'warp' effects around the player in blue close to cam, esp. legs
• notice the 'wobble' of rotating ball in 10% slowmo ... that is beyond Optical Flows skills
What I've seen so far from the famous TWIXTOR plugin for FCPX/Motion5, it lacks the 'plus' features (e.g. seperating background/layers) and has to be handled as unconvenient as the old version for FC/e (copy/paste clips to lengthen etc). Info: the vers. of Twixtor for FC/e and FC/p differed dramatically!
=> imho, the actual vers. of Twixtor4FCPX isn't worth the 300$ (yepp, three HUNDRED) …
and my personal opinion upon marketing: a plugin shouldn't be more expensive than its host

How do I add an audio crossfade to a cut without FCPx slipping the audio in-point?

I'm a seasoned FCP editor, and I'm having some major issues doing what I consider to be very basic editing in FCPx.
I basically have one video track shot on an DSLR along with a synced audio track from an external recorder. I'm using the blade the remove audio/video segments from the interview. This is working well, but what I want to do is apply an audio crossfade just to smoothen out the audio cuts. Normally, I can do this in FCP 7 just fine without affecting my existing cut positions.
However, every time I do this in FCPx, it actually slips the in-point of the audio clip that is attached to the crossfade. Is there a way I can turn off this behavior?
Even when I try to "Detach Audio", the in-point sliping still occurs when applying an audio crossfade, causing my video and audio track to move out of sync.
Any tips would be great.
It seems like Apple has taken a few steps forward while also taking a few steps back with this release.

I think the default way transitions work is to ignore handles and instead use the visible media. I'm betting this is the way imovie does it, but I don't know.
Try changing this behavior in the preferences by going to:
Final Cut Pro --> Preferences --> Editing
And then change the "Apply Transitions Using" setting from "Full Overlap" to "Available Media." I'm hoping this changes the default behavior back to how FCP 7 works.

How to Create a Custom Title in Motion for FCPx

I would like to make something like the "torn edge" title in Fcpx with the following animation; it would move up from the horizon at the bottom of the screen, display the appropriate text for its position in the movie timeline and then drop down and disappear, reversing the same motion as it did at the beginning. No music or sound would be used when the motion happens, but that might be an interesting addition.
What steps would I do to make this happen. I'm new to Motion and want to do some fast track learning.
Would I create the image that I want to animate in photoshop and import it? Or am I way off base?
Thanks.

Why go through the trouble? Just use the Torn Edge title and add the animation to it. Start by right-clicking on the Title in the Title browser in FCPX and select Open a Copy in Motion.
All you need to do is add the animation keyframes to the "components" group (Position > Y). Everything in the title, including the text objects will "follow".
If you'd like, you could add Build In and Build Out Optional markers giving you the option which animations you want to include. To add "timing" markers, no layers can be selected (so click in the layers list on a space where nothing is listed.) Move the playhead to the frame where the animation ends for the animation in and type M, then type Command-Option-M and from the popup Edit Marker dialog, select Type: Build In Optional. Move the playhead to the frame the animation out starts and do the same except select Type: Build Out Optional.
When you're finished, Save As if you want to name it something other than Torn Edge copy. You will need to create or select an existing category (but you can ignore the Theme option.)
It should just take you a few minutes to make the modifications you desire.
If you would like to "reveal" the text objects instead of having then move up into position, Move the Title Text Here and Subtitle Text Here folders out of the components folder into a New Group (select both objects and drag them over the top group in the layers list and position the mouse over towards the checkbox column -- a new group will be automatically created containing the two text objects). Select the Group object and Command-Shift-M to add an image mask. Into the source well, drop the components folder and turn the components folder back on (adding something as a mask causes it to be turned off automatically.)
To really sell the effect, option drag the components group above the text group and turn off "Tan bg" and "PaperTorn". (The animations will be copied as well and will match the original group.) You need another copy of the Torn edge to pass over the text...
You could Save As this variation for yet another separate effect.

Motion in FCPX - click lag, hanging, tortuously slow rendering

Hello Colleagues,
I have 2 iMacs of different generations, both up-to-spec and up-to-date on OS, FCP, and Motion.
I am experiencing very poor performance when using Motion "generator" graphics: lag, hanging, slow renders, and sometimes even crashing.
I have verified folder permissions, verified fonts, eliminated all converted events/libraries from pre-10.1 - pretty much everything except uninstalling, trashing prefs, and reinstalling fresh.
Still, FCP seems to be FIGHTING ITSELF, with iStat showing that more than half of CPU effort is being used by "system" instead of "user" at any given moment (when Motion assets are present and enabled).
The performance is far poorer than it ever was on FCP7 with Motion 4, and it is far worse than FCP10.0.x with Motion 5 (one of my machines was previously used with FCP7, however, the newer one has been FCPX since its unboxing day in early 2013).
Does anyone have any suggestions for the next step in troubleshooting this problem?
Thanks,
Eric - CoralVision

Yay it's Luis and Russ! Hello colleagues!
Luis: I tink I posted a link to one of the troublesome assets for you, but I limped through the completion of that project by keeping the inspector closed. I still suffered lots o click-lag, spinny balls, and, at the end, an overnight render, but I got through. This was on a 90minute show choir concert that had about 12x 8 second lower 3rds, and about 3 minutes of full screen titles, rolls, and credits. All of the FCP generator assets were made by me from scratch in Motion5. The current post relates to a similar problem, but on a different machine with different assets. The current complaint is from my slightly older iMac (lower power than the new one but still quite capable when using the former versions of this software), and the generators came from Motion projects which were originally created in Motion4. So unless there is something wrong with my practice in using FCPX generators, something in common across the 4 or 5 projects where I have experienced similar problems, I think that a corrupt template is an unlikely explanation.
Russ: I run my systems stock - that is to say that the only 3rd party plugins I have installed are the Canon EOS and XF plugins I use for ingesting media. I don't have any plugins related to MoGraph, editing, rendering, or memory management. These are custom generators that I am creating, chasing the "template" functionality I used to enjoy between Motion and FCP7. So yes, user generated custom generators - and I have had similar problems with several batches of varying complexity and varying origin.
For now I will just have to adapt, observe, and troubleshoot. I have a sneaky feeling that I am doing something wrong in the way I am setting up the motion projects for publication, but I will surely announce it loudly if I learn anything new.
Thanks for checking in, fellows!
Eric D - CoralVision

Stop Motion and FCPX

Hi,
Could anyone tell me if it is possible to create a stop motion film with onion skinning effects using Final Cut Pro X?
Failing that, is there any effect in FCPX which I could use to show me where the last frame was positioned in a stop motion film?
I was wondering if I would need specific stop motion software or not,
Many Thanks
James

What versions of the software are you using?

Fixing objects to camera motion in FCPX?

Hi
FCPX noob here with a question that may well have been asked many times, but I can't find any answer..
I have some footage of field panorama, and I want to be able to add an 'object', a house in this case, in the distance. Easy enough, but my house is obviously static and there is a subtle enough shake on the camera to make the whole thing look disjointed.
So my question is - is there a way I can fix my house to match the shake on the camera, so that it becomes a seamless part of the shot?
I hope I'm explaining myself clearly. Like I said, I am a noob who is currently using the evaluation version of FCPX, so I'm not even sure if my terms are correct.
I have tried stabilizing the footage in FCPX, but it appears to make very little or no difference. I also know that getting a perfectly level shot in the first place is probably the best idea, but I kind of am where I am with this particular piece and reshooting is not easy.
I'm halfway through my trial, and have struggled a fair bit, it's all very new to me. I'm sure there are 100's of features that I'm not aware of!
Thanks for any help
Rich

Great - thanks for answering!
Bad news for me is that there does not appear to be a trial version of Motion available for download! It seems a bit unfair that you can get FCPX but not (by the sounds of it) the essential add ons to make FCPX complete.
Obviously I'm not going to pay $50 for a piece of software when my trial expires in 2 weeks.
I'll bet theres no other way of doing this kind of thing either ... but would like to be proved wrong

Decent slow motion without artifacts?

I can't get decent half speed slow motion in AE CS6. Frame blending looks horrible with all the double contours in fast moving objects, and pixels motion looks much better motion wise, but introduces horrible motion artifacts. I also tried Pixel Motion using the Timewarp effect to have more control over tweaking it, but no matter what parameters I change, I still get the artifacts. So it looks like After Effects by itself doesn't have a good way to do slow motion that looks great, at least not for the footage I'm using.
Are there any other filters I can try, whether in AE or 3rd party that will go a great job?
Thanks,
Sebastian

As Rick said, blaming it on a specific plug-in/ feature is kinda missing the point. Half the magic happens during shooting. If I knew I'd want to slow things down, I'd get the camera that would offer the highest framerate and least compression, even if it means an expensive rental of an ARRI camera. If that's not possible then you'll have to make do with what you have and try to fix it in post. Using a sophisticated tool like Twixtor no doubt is always an option, but many times it starts with simpler things like trying to reduce block artifacts or evening out color. Such basic stuff often helps the algorithms a lot. The same as you would when doing keying. Also you can always try to mask specific parts and slow them down in separate pre-comps. It may give alignment issues, but if you want to do some sky replacment or keying, it would be acceptable to proceed this way...
Mylenium

Unable to open Motion inside FCPX

I just purchased an iMac and installed Final Cut pro X , Motion 5, Compressor as well as a third party plug-in (Red Giants Magic Bullet Looks) but I am unable to access Motion or Magic Bullet Looks through the host program (Final Cut). Am I suppose to be able to do this or not?
I am able to access Motion and Magic Bullet Looks as a stand alone programs only.
I'm very new to Mac and it's software. In fact this is the first time I'm submitting a discussion thread on line. Can someone please help.

Not necessary to say, that this was not problem in FCP7 and Motion 4 and is not FCXP and Motion 5.
There you just right clicked the clip in timeline and select "Send to Motion".
Currently you may not apply one or more of the phantastic Motion 5 features directly to your clip from the timeline.
This is frustrating...
Mark Spencer4 wrote:
You don't open Motion inside of FCP X. It is a standalone application. You can use it to publish titles, transitions, effects, and generators TO FCP X, which are then available in FCP X's Browsers to apply to your projects. You can also use it to modify any of the existing effects. This article may help:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/motion_5_new_features_spencer.html

Can we live just we motion without after effects ( effects with particle)

I am trying to make a really simple effects with particles in motion, i watched ANDY KRAMER'S "tutorial " ENERGY" related after effects and trying to do same thing with apple motion, I am new in motion graphic and approched it studying motion with mark spencer book and experiencing as many things as possibile.
MY personal question is ( I know that many people has done same question) it really worth studiyng after effects? can we live just with motion? (as 3d app i am studiyng cinema 4d).
Anyway right now Iam a bit frustrated because a simple twirl effects with particles coming from boundaries to go toward center point seem to me impossible, iit was so easely in after effects.

Well if you haven't already realized it your never going to be completely happy with Motion. But I was never any happier with After Effects. Personally if you can get your hands on Cinema 4D DO. It's an awesome program. Combine that with Motion and you can do just about anything you want. Oh yea and I guess you've already noticed that when it comes to stability Motion is screwed. My dream is that someday (Like in the next release) They would combine C4D and Motion into almost 1 application. Kinda like FCP and Motion. You could do most of your modeling in C4D and then pull it into Motion to add all you video layers etc. But chances of that happening are pretty slim. But if the next release of FCS has as many updates as the last release it might be time to switch to Adobe lol

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