Moving from Lightroom 3 (beta) to Aperture 3

My current setup:
I have Lightroom set to store all of my images within /Picutres/[year]/[month/
So my Pictures folder looks something like this:
/2010/
/2009/
/2008/
And within a year, it looks like
/2010/12/
/2010/11/
/2010/10/
I want to import my ENTIRE 20,000+ library of mostly RAW files dating back to 2000 (10 years, 12 directories per year for 9 of them). The problem I'm finding in Aperture is that you can only import directories one at a time. It wont let me just point the import dialog at /Pictures/ and give me some sort of checkbox that would say "Include sub-folders".
Am I correct in that my only solution would be to first, open Lightroom and export ALL of my images to 1 giant folder and then point Aperture to that folder?.
Thanks for the help, in advance.

I was on the trial version and could not get A3 to import more than one file at a time and like you I have a bunch! So I bit the bullet and bought the program. Then made sure I had A2 all set up with projects and albums like I wanted it. Now I'm doing an import of the previous library and altho' it will take quite a while, it is showing up in the order I want them.
It says in the instructions that you should be able to shift/click and choose several files at one time and if you have folders with sub folders it should import just as you have them in the finder...your main files being Projects and subfolders being albums. But I could not get that feature to work with the trial. Maybe it works ok with the paid version. I decided to give the import of the library a chance after I bought it and so far all is ok.
Good luck.
Sue

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Michael Winner wrote:
...workflow is pretty simple with Aperture, which sounds appealing. He's promised to give me a short tutorial on how to make Aperture work well for my needs
Your friend is more optomistic than I am. IMO although one can evolve a simple workflow, there is a significant but worthwhile learning curve. I recommemnd fully completing one of the tutorials available.
Put 8 GB RAM in your iMac before starting so you can be sure any anomalies are not RAM-based. Also note that Aperture is a hardware hog.
I have the originals on an external hard drive, organized into folders: Family Events, Travel, Kids Sports, etc. There are subfolders for various events (Dad's 75th birtday, etc.). My guess (not knowing much about Aperture) is that I should be well set up to bring these images into Aperture, and off I'd go.
Yes on bringing them into Aperture. During import set to "Store Files: in their current location" so that you stay with what is called a referenced-Masters workflow. However moving forward you should lose the folder-think organization. Instead import Dads 76th as a (date based) Project, and use Keywords to identify things like Family Events.
My comments from an earlier thread:
First, Projects should be just that: individual-shoot based projects rather than some kind of organizing tool for all the architectural photos or whatever. For performance reasons personally I keep each Project under 500 20-MB images, making a second Project if the shoot is large (e.g. 110829_KJones_Wed_B). One or more albums will always organize the KJones wedding pix together anyway.
Folders are indeed flexible organizational tools but IMO often overused. Folders can effectively hide contents from view and therefore require users to remember how folders are nested and what is inside them. Folders were the only way to deal with single-original film, but are IMO limiting to image database thinking.
The way I look at it conceptually:
Aperture is a database, and each image file lives in one Project.
Albums are just collections of Pointers that point to individual image files living in one or more Projects. Since they just contain pointers, albums can be created or deleted at will without affecting image files. Very powerful.
Keywords can be applied to every image separately or in batches. Keywords are hugely powerful and largely obviate the need for folders. Not that we should never use folders, just that we should use folders only when useful organizationally - - after first determining that using keywords and albums is not a better approach.
As one example imagine the keyword "flowers." Every image of 100k images that has some flowers in it has the keyword flowers. Then say we want to put flowers in an ad, or as background for a show of some kind, or to print pix for a party, or even just to look for an image for some other reason. We can find every flower image in a 100k-image database in 2 seconds, and instantly create an Album called "Flowers" that points to all of those individual images.
Similarly all family pix can have a keyword "family" and all work pix can have a key word "work." Each individual pic may have any number of keywords.
So by using keywords and albums we can have instant access to every image everywhere, very cool. And keywords and albums essentially take up no space in the database.
Another approach is to use a folder "Family" for family pix, a folder "Flowers" for flowers pix and another folder "Work" for work pix. IMO such folders usage is a very poor approach to using an images database (probably stemming from old paper or film work practices). Note that one cannot put an image with family in a field of flowers at a work picnic in all three folders.
HTH
-Allen

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Basically, the issue is with the different companies design of RAW rendering which do not read each other's edits.
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Do I understand correctly that bringing images into Aperture 3 from Lightroom 3 will cost me the adjustments I've made in Lightroom?
If that's the case, what's the best strategy for proceeding? Stay in Lightroom?

Alexander CK wrote:
Here's a compromise I've worked out. In Lightroom, export your images (maybe only those that have adjustments) to high-quality JPEG, in the same folder as the masters. Also make sure all metadata is kept in sidecar XML files.
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Interesting. I agree that editing and image quality is very good in Lr; I haven't tried Aperture 3, though I was an Aperture 2 user before moving to Lightroom. But I think that Lr's DAM aspect is clearly superior to Aperture and I am leery about moving back to Aperture primarily for that reason. I just much prefer the Aperture interface, and its beautiful integration with OS X, iPhone, iPad, etc.
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I read Adobe's product info and some topics in this forum. However I wonder if anyone has used Bridge a lot for photography and has now moved to Lightroom (or tried and went back) and why. I'd rather hear a short review from you than from Adobe (pro, contra compared to Bridge). Also how do the two work together, I'm reading a lot about lost Camera RAW adjustments.
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Hello T-
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Would like to give Aperture a second chance, but I have already built up my lightroom library. Is there a clean way to do this?

Has any additional progress been made on migrating from Lightroom to Aperture without losing develop settings and metadata?
I tried the Aperture 2.0 demo and really wanted to switch. Lightroom gets absolutely bog-slow once you start accumulating "professional" quantities of photos in your library (I'm managing about 25,000 DNG images) and not only is it slow on its own, it takes a death-grip on anything else running on your Mac as well. Aperture 2.0 was unchained lightning by comparison. And the new plug-in architecture and brush-on dodge/burn effects in 2.1 are deal-sealers for me.
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and this is one of the reasons, outside of the choking issue, I stay with Lightroom, I can use two external editors. In Aperture only one.
You can only define one default external editor, but you can use more than one editor: there are editing plug-ins, and you can call other image editors using Services.
For example:
I have the Aperture preferences set to use GraphicConverter as external editor, but when I want to edit in Photoshop, I use an Automator Service like this, and activate it from the Aperture -> Services menu:
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I put the workflow and the script on this webpage for download: http://dreschler-fischer.de/FAQ/Scripts_Services/Entries/2012/1/12_Additional_Ex ternal_Editor_in_Aperture.html
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I can't put my finger on it, but I just don't like Lightroom. I feel like I'm dumping pictures into a repository that's hard to view them in. It's rather anti-intuitive to use the various modules and I find that my photos aren't any better organized than simply being dumped into folders by date. I've found them difficult to browse. Maybe there's a better method, but I haven't found it yet. I miss the simplicity of iPhoto but could probably benefit from some pro offerings. Perhaps Aperture is that happy medium that I'm locking for?
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Also, I read that Aperature doesn't keep versions of files that have been edited in Aperture or Photoshop. Is that true?
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Yeah, I've nothing good to say about Lighroom's user interface. It was clumsy and unintuitive back in the pre-1.0 betas, and subsequent releases haven't improved the situation. Besides a vastly superior workflow, you'll also notice that Aperture makes far more efficient use of screen real estate.
Aperture's Smart Folders will let you view by date/location to your heart's content. See also Five Simple Rules. You really want to understand the different kinds of folders and how they relate to projects before you get going. Aperture will read metadata from XMP sidecars during import. See metadata mapping.
Likely the thing you'll miss most are noise reduction and lens/perspective correction. Aperture's noise control is laughable by today's standards. Do note that there's a noise slider in the raw adjustment brick of the adjustment HUD. But for anything serious you'll want to run through DxO. Same with lens/perspective correction outside of micro 4/3 lenses. Aperture now relies on Apple Maps for geotagging, the resolution of which is just awful in backcountry areas.

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