MSI 648 Max - Display Problems

I recently bought the MSI 648 Max motherboard, as my system needed an upgrade quite badly. To cut the costs down a bit, I’ve used some parts from my previous system (eg the video card which is an 2x AGP, 64 Mb, Kyro based card) but got new RAM, CPU and psu.
I put together the system (described below), loaded Windows ME, updated all drivers with latest releases, and the thing works but the quality of the display is really bad ;( . That is, I get lots of video artefacts (shadows, fading text, vertical lines, distorted colours, etc). The video card was working fine on my other machine. Also, Sisoft Sandra says that the card is operating at 2x AGP, as it should.
I am not overclocking; some of the BIOS parameters I used are as follows (based on the OPTIMAL DEFAULTS):
AGP Aperture Size    128 Mb
DRAM CAS Latency    by SPD
Timing Setting Mode    NORMAL
MA 1T/2T Select    AUTO
Primary Graphics Adapter    AGP
Allocate IRQ to PCI VGA    NO
CPU/DRAM Frequency Ratio    by SPD
DRAM Frequency    167 MHz (for now)
CPU Frequency    133 MHz
AGP/PCI Frequency    66/33
DRAM Vcore        2.6 V
CPU Vcore       AUTO
The system temperature showed in the Health Status is less than 40 C (104 F).
I have tried the latest AMI BIOS (version 1.3), and then reverted to version 1.0, but I still have the same display problem.
I would really appreciate some help.
Ciao
mystro
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Windows ME (v4.90.3000)
Pentium4 CPU 2.4 GHz (133x18.0), FSB 533 MHz
MSI SIS648 Max (MS 6585) ver. 1.0
2 x 256 MB Corsair DDR400 (CMX256A-3200C2, CL = 2-3-3-6-T1,
Hercules 3D Prophet Kyro 4500 TV Out (Kyro I not II) 64 Mb, AGP 2x, 175/175 MHz
IBM 40GB 7200RPM UATA100
Mitsubishi 40x CD-Rom
Yamaha 8424S CD-RW
Adaptec 2930U SCSI card
Eagle 350W psu, 190W (combined 3.3V & 5V)

boards agpx4 and 8 only so i dont advise using that card
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=355&MODEL=MS-6585

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1- When I adjust my CPU FSB more than 110 MHz (PCI > 36.66 MHZ) and set this option to 66/33 the computer boots normally until it starts loading the O.S. and errors saying that the OS cannot start due to lost system files, or Read
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