MSI GTX570 TwinFrozr III Power Edition: Unstable at stock settings | SPLIT

Hello,
Same problem with my card also same model GTX 570 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC not stable at stock clocks 770/4000 (artifacts on 3DMark 11)
I even plan do not OC it and stay on default clocks for now, but today I start bechmarks and notice only in 3DMark 11 artifacts (red sqares/dots) in others benchmarks I don't noticed any, or in games.
I bought it 3 days ago and I thinking to exchange it for another, what are you think is worth ? or could you here help me somehow ? I see is possible to upgrade new updated bios with higher voltage.
Is it 100% safe to flash this in Windows 7 64bit ?
I don't know how to check which voltage is enough for stock clocks ? Is that cards was not tested before they go to market ?
As I know I have to increase the voltage by MSI Afterburner Core Voltage (mV) a little and checking stability/artifacts ?
I checked orginal default voltage VDDC in GPU-Z and is 0,9120V at idle, and 0,9880V at stress.

Quote from: PeterMac on 16-May-11, 21:09:35
I rec video how it's work on default
You think other one should be good ? or maybe all of this cards are not stable on defaults voltage/clocks
Not for all, it should work as is.
Eventually can be fixed with bios update, with voltage bump
So either try bump the voltage until it makes stable then i can make a bios for you,
or rma it

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MSI GTX570 TwinFrozr III Power Edition: Unstable at stock settings

Hello,
This is a continuation of this thread:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148321.0
But to summarize the issue, the card is not stable at stock speeds of 770 core, 1540 shader, 2000 memory.
The stock voltage on this card is 0.962 and may have not been quality tested enough at the factory. With my testing I found that the voltage needed for stability at these stock values is +68 to core voltage in Afterburner (1.031v). I used OCCT 15 minute stress test to verify there were no errors. Anything under 1.031v showed errors at auto fan speeds.
I was told by Henry that I should request a modified vbios from Svet. I am experienced enough to flash the video card, but I want to know if this will void my warranty.
Again, this card is wonderful and overclocks very well, the only problem is that it isn't stable at stock and if I were to ever sell the card to someone who is not experienced enough to over volt or overclock, this card would be assumed as defective.

Quote from: gl0ry on 02-May-11, 07:29:21
Thanks Svet,
I sent you my S/N. Yes, 1.031v seems perfectly stable for stock with auto fan. I am testing one more time to be certain and so far it seems fine.
Also, a question that was never answered. If I flash the bios with the one that you supply, I am still under warranty, correct?
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I sent you my S/N.
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Yes, 1.031v seems perfectly stable for stock with auto fan. I am testing one more time to be certain and so far it seems fine.
oki
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Also, a question that was never answered. If I flash the bios with the one that you supply, I am still under warranty, correct?
yes
Log-in with account who has administrative rights
Get attached file and extract all files somewhere. [Check PM for password]
Then close all applications that's not need, kill/close any antivirus programs and such if you have.
then click on flash.bat
answer with "Y" when asked for confirmation, then wait process to finish for message "Update complete! Press a key to exit"
Then press a key and reboot your computer

MSI GTX570 TwinFrozr III Power Edition: Unstable at stock unless fan is 100%

Hello Everyone,
I got my GTX 570 TwinFrozr III Power Edition yesterday and I like it a lot. I've been testing it and running it through various benchmarks and games to find the best stable overclocks with Afterburner. By doing this I noticed a few things that lead me to question if there is a problem.
Before I started trying to overclock, I ran the card at the stock settings 770core/1540shader/2000memory @ 0.962v and tried various benchmarks and stress tests. Immediately I noticed there were errors and artifacts. I tried to increase voltage and I noticed that the artifacts and errors were going away, so I thought maybe my VID was too low... at 1.012v it seems to be error free at stock settings.
I tried another thing as well, I left the card at stock VID (0.962v) and put the fan speed to 100% and I noticed all errors and artifacts completely gone. So I lowered fan speed to 70% because 100% is too loud for me and 70% is still pretty loud but it's better... I found that at 70% I still got some errors but not a lot. Let me just say that my GPU Core temperatures are amazing. never over 62c.
So now I don't know if there is a problem with my card or the factory just gave it too low of stock VID. I think it's kind of weird that at stock settings that the card would produce artifacts and errors unless the fan speed is at 100%. I'm guessing MSI factory tested stock overclocks with 100% fan speed?
I love this card, but if I ever resell in the future and someone installs this card they will think its broken.
Let me just state that finally, the card is an overclocking monster. I am now at 950core/1900shader/2300memory @ 1.082v without any errors... The only problem I have is that when I run unigine heaven I see some of these graphical anomalies. Here's an example I found online which is exactly what I see. http://fotohost.lv/images/n6azp80ru74so1ecp009.jpg
So far I'm not sure what the cause is for that... but I think that when I put the fan at 100% I didn't see it. I could be wrong, but I will test again when I wake up tomorrow.
Thanks MSI.

Thanks for the reply Henry, but the problem here is that it wasn't stable from the factory at their settings.
Do you understand how this can be problematic for me if I ever decided to sell the card? It is no problem for me to raise the voltage at all. I think this card is phenomenal, but if I ever sold this card to someone else who doesn't want to or know how to overclock or adjust voltages, it would be classified as a broken or faulty video card.
Also scratch the stability at 100% fan speed. I still get some errors, although not many. The card seems to be stable around 1.018 volts at default overclocked settings.
I just didn't expect MSI to make a mistake on the stock VID. If there were a way for them to fix it through a bios update it would be great.
Edit: Just for the record, the card is a great overclocker and is very stable. The only gripe I have is that it isn't stable at default frequencies unless I bump voltage to 1.018. This is no problem for me, but if I ever were to sell this card, I would have to have a disclaimer that it is unstable unless you put voltage higher?
I'm just trying to figure out if this could be some oversight on MSI's part and if it isn't, could my card not have been quality inspected?

570 twin frozr III power edition oc unstable

Hi,just finished building my new rig (i52500k,p8z68-v-pro gen3 and msi N570GTX Twin Frozr III power edition OC)but my card appears to be unstable out of the box,crashing straight away on 3d mark,i'm getting display driver stopped responding error.
I've done a clean install of drivers etc,and only when i use afterburner to up the core voltage by 25mV does the card become stable.(have not tried less voltage)
Why isnt it working at stock voltage ?
I even tried bf3 using the card at fully stock settings,and it crashed minutes into the game

Sounds like the same problem i was having https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=155348.0
Most games would crash 10-30 seconds into the game, battlefield 3 lasted about 2-3 minutes before crashing and restarting.
Now i have a decent power supply unit no more crashing just hours of fun gaming

MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC memory clock?

I have had an MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC for about 6 months now and have used MSI Afterburner to monitor temps etc. Today I used it to lower my overclocking as others had said Ghost Recon Future Soldier doesn't crash if you take it off.
If you look at the MSI product page for the card (the forum won't let me post a link to it!?) you can see the Memory Clock Speed(MHz) says 4000 yet in Afterburner mine said 2000Mhz and the slider was in the middle. I am pretty sure there is no multiplier at work here so mine wasn't being overclocked?
Any ideas? I have reduced it down to 1800Mhz and GRFS doesn't crash anymore but can I take it up to 4000Mhz safely in future? I do not want to overload the card.

you have multiply the memory value x2 to get the effective speed

Two displays for MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC graphics card ?

Is it possible to have two displays simultaneously connected to this graphics card:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-III-Power-Edition-OC.html#?div=Overview
The card has two DVI-outputs "DVI Output: 2 (Single-Link DVI-D x1, Dual-Link DVI-I x1)". I can use one display at a time and the second display only shows "No signal" error. I would like to use two displays when playing PC games, is it possible with this craphics card? Both my displays have VGA connector cables, and they are connected to the card with an VGA/DVI adapter.

Quote from: Svet on 19-January-12, 22:12:52
what monitors you are using and what resolutions you're trying to use?
Both monitors are old models: 1) Panasonic PanaFlat PF90 2) acer AL 707.
I'm not sure what resolution I was using on acer when I tried to connect both monitors, but now I'm using PanaFLat with 1280 x 1024. Maybe I should try to set them both on 1024 x 768 and try again.

MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III POWER Edition OC - Dual monitors IDLE higher temp

I have MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III POWER Edition OC, when I attached second monitor to this card temperature in IDLE mode on this card goes higher from ~38C with one monitor to around ~45-6C with second.
Card with attached two monitors do not goes in 2D mode, I readed its a nvidia bug and I should upgdate my BIOS.
In desktop IDLE mode card with attached one monitor
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3726/19936167.gif
In desktop IDLE mode card with attached two monitors
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1857/27227099.gif
My BIOS version 70.10.27.00.01
Is it available any newer bios for this card ?

Quote from: PeterMac on 10-May-12, 01:13:08
From 50MHz on GPU at idle desktop with single monitor to 770MHz!! with two monitors for what ?
to support the second monitor it seems.
read the link
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2483

Driver for N560GTX-448 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC -l- split

I bought the card about four weeks ago and just now I had the opportunity to test it.
When I installed the video card in my PC, the device manager appears only a standard VGA video card. When I installed the driver, Device Manager showed a yellow exclamation on Nvidia's GeForce GTX 560 Ti saying "Windows has stopped this device becouse encounter some problems (error 43). I tried running some games but I could not open them, and with some drivers the screen was filled with artifacts
I tried various drivers on my two PCs, from one that comes with the video card to the 295.73 driver, and each time the same warning on device manager. Can anyone help solve this or may I do a RMA to MSI?
My systems:
AMD A3500
Gigabyte A75M-D2H
4Gb RAM Kingston DDR3
SevenTeam 550W.
Intel Core2Quad 9400
Gigabyte EP43-DS3L
8Gb RAM Corsair
SevenTeam 750W
Thank you.

Quote from: Bernhard on 20-March-12, 00:42:10
You sure your PSU has enough amps on the 12V rail and you connected the PCIE power connectors properly ?
Have you checked your Motherboard's BIOS revisions for updates regarding the later video cards ?
Your PCIE Bus interface should be 2.0 X 16. Have you reseated the card properly and disabled the on board graphics in your BIOS ?
My PSU is a SevenTeam 750ZAF with 750W. I used it to do SLI of my 9800GTX+ in the other computer and never had problems with it. I doubt that this could be my problem.
The GA-EP43-DS3L already has the ultimate BIOS and I did the update on the GA-A75M-D2H BIOS. Nothing new, the problem persist.
Anyone of my boards does not support PCI-Express 2.0 but this is not a requisites for work of the video board like said the MSI page:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N560GTX-448-Twin-Frozr-III-Power-Edition-OC.html#?div=Feature
"PCI Express 2.0 doubles the bandwidth of previous generations of PCI express up to an astonishing 16Gb/s. This maximizes the performance of current graphics cards in today's most demanding games and applications. PCI Express 2.0 products are fully compatible with mainboards with other versions of PCI Express."

Does N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC have OCP?

Hello,
(1.) does the MSI's N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC VGA have OCP, since it utilizes custom PCB and, compared to reference, has more VRMs?
Any URIs would be appreciated.
Thank you very much.
EDIT:
Hi again,
I wish to add two subquestions:
2. Does OCP (for the GTX500 series, in general) affect Kombustor, given the fact that it's based on FurMark?
3. Does "Xtreme burn-in mode" in Kombustor and FurMark bypass the OCP?
Thank you.

Quote from: Svet on 16-March-12, 18:35:01
Yes, all cards have such
If its Disabled it will effect anywhere
No
Excuse me, Sir, I do not understand what you mean by "If its Disabled it will effect anywhere".
My understanding is that OCP used to throttle down heat generation and performance of OCCT, FurMark, and the like, but ever since ForceWare 267, it applies to every application. What do you mean by "Disabled"; did you mean enabled? I apologize for my confusion, Sir.
I remember that GPU-Z had a mode to disable the OCP (/GTX580OCP), then the newer ForceWare denied the disable, possibly thereafter TPU countered and reworked their mod to bypass the OCP again (/GTX500OCP); judging from the previous sentence, it should be possible to disable the OCP throttling via a software tweak (not just hard-modding the PCB), and I wondered whether Kombustor/FurMark implemented this software-based solution into the "Xtreme burn-in mode", since, for example, Kombustor displays the "Unlocking power draw will increase graphics card workload." warning when one selects the "Xtreme burn-in mode". The bottom line is that I only want to learn what "Xtreme burn-in mode" is really all about, could you, please, explain its concept to me?
P. S.: I do not challenge you; I'm only trying to learn. Thank you for your help; I truly appreciate all the time and effort you vest into these forums; you're a star!

R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC goes to full power when in idle

My R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC acts normally, when i use the PC. When it goes to idle, the card heats up and turns the speed to 100%. When i remove the drivers there's no problem. I've tried with the different drivers there and on the AMD page.

Quote from: Svet on 12-May-12, 02:39:19
install msi vga drivers, then see how it goes
I've already tried those :(

MOVED: Can I unlock 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition to 6970 shaders?

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Undervolting & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148995.0

Quote from: v1p3r on 25-May-11, 09:02:27
Hi,
I have purchased the MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition.
I was wondering if it can be unlocked to the 6970 shaders? Thanks.
OK, HERE IS THE SKIVY, THE MSI R6950 TWIN FROZER 3 PE OC 2GIG, DOES UNLOCK, I FLASHED THE CARD WITH SUPPLIED BIOS FROM MSI, R6950PEX.BIN IT UNLOCKS ALL, VOLTAGE CORE, OVERCLOCK, ETC. I DID NOT SEE ANY CHANGE HOWEVER IN THE SHADERS, MY GPU-Z IS THE UP TO DATE VERSION. SO NOT SURE IF THEY UNLOCK OR NOT. I ALSO PURPOSELY FLASHED A 6970 BIOS, ON THE CARD AS WELL // CRASHED IT. FLICKED THE **BIOS SWITCH** & BOOM IT BOOTS UP NO PROBLEM, IN WINDOWS, RUNNING, I SWITCHED IT BACK, & REFLASHED THE ORIGINAL BIOS OVER THE 6970 BIOS.....SO FAR EVERYTHING WORKS AWESOME // GREAT DESIGN HERE....THIS IS MY FIRST RADEON BASED CARD IN LIKE 15 YEARS // GONNA PLAY SOME MORE & I WILL REPOST WHEN I FIGURE OUT THE SHADERS.........MrStude2r5

Can I unlock 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition to 6970 shaders?

Hi,
I have purchased the MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition.
I was wondering if it can be unlocked to the 6970 shaders? Thanks.

Quote from: v1p3r on 25-May-11, 09:02:27
Hi,
I have purchased the MSI 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition.
I was wondering if it can be unlocked to the 6970 shaders? Thanks.
OK, HERE IS THE SKIVY, THE MSI R6950 TWIN FROZER 3 PE OC 2GIG, DOES UNLOCK, I FLASHED THE CARD WITH SUPPLIED BIOS FROM MSI, R6950PEX.BIN IT UNLOCKS ALL, VOLTAGE CORE, OVERCLOCK, ETC. I DID NOT SEE ANY CHANGE HOWEVER IN THE SHADERS, MY GPU-Z IS THE UP TO DATE VERSION. SO NOT SURE IF THEY UNLOCK OR NOT. I ALSO PURPOSELY FLASHED A 6970 BIOS, ON THE CARD AS WELL // CRASHED IT. FLICKED THE **BIOS SWITCH** & BOOM IT BOOTS UP NO PROBLEM, IN WINDOWS, RUNNING, I SWITCHED IT BACK, & REFLASHED THE ORIGINAL BIOS OVER THE 6970 BIOS.....SO FAR EVERYTHING WORKS AWESOME // GREAT DESIGN HERE....THIS IS MY FIRST RADEON BASED CARD IN LIKE 15 YEARS // GONNA PLAY SOME MORE & I WILL REPOST WHEN I FIGURE OUT THE SHADERS.........MrStude2r5

N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC ----- No Boot / Blue Screen

Hello all,
  I recently purchase a brand new N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC. Previous to installing the card I had a gt250 with the latest Nvidia drivers installed (285.62). I installed the n570 and booted up no problems. I was able to see the new card installed in device manager and also confirmed it in afterburner. However, I wasn't able to set or view the voltage settings even after enabling in preferences and restarting afterburner. Although, the remaining settings / stats seemed to work fine. I was also able to do a full kombuster (ultra settings) benchmark with no problems, receiving a decent score and topping out temps in the high 50's I think. I also played a few games and turned up settings with no trouble.
  When I rebooted my machine as the windows load screen popped up I got a BSOD and an error referencing nvlddmkm.sys. All reboots there after either failed to the same BSOD error or rebooted the machine. Booting into safe mode had no problem as did booting into normal mode if I uninstalled all nvidia drivers first. As long as I boot into safe mode or there's no drivers installed it doesn't fail.
  I've tried every version of the nvidia drivers I can find. 286.62, the newest 290 beta drivers, the 266 versions that came on the cd and multiple 270's version that were noted the most stable in internet forums...all produce the same results. I then updated the bios on my motherboard to the latest. I also reinstalled a fresh copy of win7 x64, and ran all system updates include service pack 1. I did all those updates with my 250 installed. After I had a solid system I put in the n570 and rebooted. I again had a perfect boot and was able to access the card (not the voltage via afterburned or any info via live update 5). I was able to run benchmarks etc once again. Upon a reboot, it failed back to the BSOD again. I repeated the multiple driver tests, all failed the same.
  If anyone could suggest something other than RMA I would be happy to give something else a try. It seems silly to RMA a card that works so well on first boot until I reboot windows. But I'm out of ideas...
System specs:
N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC
Intel Core i7 950
6gigs Ram
730 watt power supply (w/ dual pci-e power connectors)
Gigabyte x58a-ud3r rev2 (newest bios - standard clock speeds - default voltage settings for pcie)
Win7 x64 Service pack 1 (all windows updates)
Thanks for any help.

Also, if it helps to note, on the initial install (both times) the card was stable for hours until I shut down and rebooted. If it were a power issue wouldn't it be unlikely to be stable for such a long time (even during stress tests) and then not even be able to load windows correct after a reset? Seems like a driver issue to me, however as I've said I've tried them ALL haha.
Thanks for the help

Bsod 2gd5/oc msi gtx660 twinfrozr III

Hi. I have big problem. About week ago i was playing game when screen get black. So, i restarted the computer and now i getting bsod during windows loadning. BSOD 0x116. I'm using win 7 64 bit. Graphic card 2gd5/oc msi gtx660 twinfrozr III. Motherboard msi z77a g45. Sorry for my bad english but i hope you understand some of it Psu: XFX CORE 550W. Cpu: i5 3570k.

But that's still Nvidia drivers, you haven't answered my question:
Quote from: Svet on 25-April-13, 02:52:02
if you use onboard GPU do you have such issues?

N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC

Hello,
I have exactly the same issues like the OP.
I bought my video card (N570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC) 3 days ago and my video card is showing exactly the same symptoms as described by the OP.
I was able to play 2 evenings after hours of problems where my computer system was showing the same artifacts immediately after turning it on. When the system succeeded to boot to Windows the nvidia driver kept crashing over and over again if I did not receive blue screens.
Surprisingly after booting again and again and again and... the system was eventually stable to play 2 hours. After shutting down and turning the computer on again the same problems reoccur.
I did not RMA the card so far because I was trying to isolate the conditions where the card is running stable. I was not successful so far.
My nvidia 8800 GTX works like a charm. All, and I really would like to point that out, all other components are 6 weeks old! Last component I exchanged because of the graphics issues was the PSU. After exchanging the PSU the problem was gone for 15 mins.
@RelevantToSome: Looks like I am using the same memory like you... Compatibility issue?

Quote from: Bernhard on 06-October-12, 05:51:32
Test your 570 in another know working system with a similar GPU.
Are you talking about a similar CPU or GPU?
Of course, both is not available!
Quote from: Bernhard on 06-October-12, 05:51:32
My initial suspicion is a PSU or the card itself.
Quote from: Bernhard on 06-October-12, 05:51:32
Yes, on paper the PSU should be OK, but it may not have the available amps as claimed, i.e. could be defective.
At least it has enough amps to run the card and while measuring power consumption my whole system sucks 392 watts, ~140 watts less than the PSU manufacturer claims for the 12V rail alone. And the PSU does not really seem defective because when the system manages to boot up it runs without problems hours and I would expect the system would run under full pressure even 24 hours.
Quote from: Bernhard on 06-October-12, 05:51:32
If the card works on another system, then test your PSU on the other system.
I have no other system available to disassemble completely. I have 2 PSUs here. Both show the same symptoms...
I purchased this PSU because I also thought my PSU might be defective...
Quote from: Bernhard on 06-October-12, 05:51:32
We can't support your MB, but your BIOS may need an update. Check the MB manufaturers BIOS release notes.
Just for interest, what is the relation between BIOS update and a card showing artifacts immediately after turning the computer on?
Ofc I will flash my BIOS just to sort that out...

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