Multiclip with 30p and 60i footage

I recently did a shoot with 3 cameras-- two of them were at 30p, and one was set to 60i. FCP won't let me make a multiclip of them because they are not in the same format. I assume the most expedient thing would be to convert the 60i material into 30p. Is that correct? What is the best way to do this with Final Cut Studio (FCP or Compressor-- how?)
Thanks.

What settings would I use?
Quicktime uncompressed 8-bit, 10-bit, or one of the Mpeg-2 settings?
My guess is that I want to leave everything the same as it is, only change it from 60i to 30p.
I think I need the "Compressor for Dummies" kind of an answer.
Thanks.

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Using 24p footage and 60i footage together?

Hello,
I am working on a project that will combine 24p footage and 60i footage. What would be the best way to go about combining these two. It's for a short that is shot similar to Cloverfield. I want to use 60i footage for the hand held footage shoot by the actors who are capturing their experience. I'd prefer to have that footage shot on 24p as well and degrade the quality in post, but I don't want to run the risk of them dropping my DVX100a and destroying it. I don't have any experience with 60i, or combining two kinds of footage, so advice is much appreciated!
Thanks!

> that they are not true 30p but really 60i rendered to 30p
Well, I certainly can't speak for all of these cameras, but I have played around with some of this "30p over 60i" footage -- but most of this was from HDV cameras, not AVCHD. Avoid if you can. Basically, the luma is progressive and the chroma is interlaced.
I have a function (it's actually part of the dv2film and hd2sd functions) that will deinterlace only the chroma, so can recover greatly true progressive output... but this is an unmitigated a pain in the *** to deal with all the time, and you certainly lose at least a little chroma resolution. Avoid :)

Working with 30p and 24p in premiere

I would like some advice on mixing 30fps footage with 24fps footage. Or, shooting all in 30p, but I would want the final video in 24p without any quality loss.
I have two shoot days for a short video I am making. The first day I shot an entire interview and tons of broll in 30fps. I have another day of shooting and was wondering what my best option would be: Either to keep shooting the rest in 30p and then putting all 30p footage on a 24p timeline? Or, finish my next shoot day with 24p (having both 30p and 24p footage) and then putting the mix footage on a 24 timeline? Or, is there too much quality now that will be lost, if I take 30p to 24p?
Suggestions? My ultimate goal is to have a cinematic look and feel.
This will be my first project in premiere.
Thanks!

My ultimate goal is to have a cinematic look and feel.
Then shoot in 24 fps.
Suggestions?
See this thread in After Effects Forum.

Working with 30p or 60i

Hey, so i just got an HF100 and supposedly it records in 30P which is really recording 30p in a 60i wrapper. Currently my capture preset is at Prores 422(HQ) and sequence preset are Prores 422 (HQ) in 1920x108030P. Since the hf100 isn't recording in "true" 30P but rather a 60i wrapper should my sequence preset be 1920x108060i or should i leave it at 1920x108030P? I'm looking for the most seamless way to edit these AVCHD files for final output to web, standard dvd, and possibly blu-ray when that option (apple supported) becomes available for my mac pro. So am i actually working with 30P footage or 60i out of this camera? Let me know! THanks so much for the help.

I had a similar query a few months ago with my HV20 which can shoot HDV at 25p.
I was told to use the 50i setting so you should be OK with the 60i.
Your footage has 2 identical fields per frame (Progressive Segmented Frame) as opposed to true progressive with only one. In the HV20 manual Canon states it is shooting 50i.
Here are the details of Progressive Segmented Frame shooting should you be interested:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProgressivesegmentedFrame

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I'm trying to import some footage files in .avi format into Encore CS3 and am having several problems.
In what follows when I say "crash" I mean Encore quits with a standard Windows error. When I say "hang" I mean Encore does not quit but rather becomes an unresponsive process that must be killed manually using Windows Task Manager.
My System:
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2.93 GHz Intel Celeron CPU - single core
Intel PERL mobo
3GB 400MHz RAM
NVidia 7800GS video
I mention these specs however I am not experiencing any hardware
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etc) when using any CS3 app.
The footage files (as reported by GSpot) and problems I am seeing. In all cases GSpot reports that I have the appropriate codec installed:
footage1.avi - Dx50 XVid 1.0.3, Dolby AC3 48kHz 192kb/s, 716834 KB
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footage2.avi - Dx50 XVid 1.0.3, MPEG-1 Layer 3 48kHz 128kb/s, 718302 KB
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fine in Windows Media Player. Video imports perfectly, just no audio.
footage3.avi - Dx50 XVid 1.0.3, MPEG1-Layer3 48kHz 112kb/s, 717606 KB
Imports fine as either a timeline or asset but no audio track comes
with it, even though there is an audio track in the footage. It plays
fine in Windows Media Player. Video imports perfectly, just no
audio. I tried converting this one using AVS to both MPEG3 and DivX,
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upon importing into Encore CS3. I also loaded it into Camtasia
Studio and it looked fine over there. The audio was present and I
was able to export it as a .WAV file. When I tried looking at the
file in Soundbooth CS3, there was no audio track or, more
accurately, the audio track was a flat line.
By way of comparison these are importing perfectly:
footage4.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.0 Beta2, MPEG1-Layer3 48kHz 189kb/s Two mono
channels LAME3.96r, 717436 KB.
footage5.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.0 Final, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s Six
channels (3/2 .1), 716418 KB.
footage6.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.0 Final, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s Six
channels (3/2 .1), 716418 KB.
footage7.avi - XVID XviD 1.0.3, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s 6 channels
(3/2 .1), 717502 KB
footage8.avi - XVID XviD 1.0.3, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s 6 channels
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footage9.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.2 Final, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s 6 channels
(3/2 .1), 2291904 KB
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Unfortunately I neglected to write down the error message I recieved
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Having issues with Compressor and my footage looking pixelated..

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I'm in new territory here. I've previously only worked with 720/24p (Varicam) footage and am now working with some 1080/60i footage that originated in 1080/24p. It's a long story (see PS below if interested). Bottom line is we're stuck withi 1080/60i My question is this: The footage in FCP looks fine (for interlaced) but when I send it to compressor for DVD, the footage looks like it's low resolution (like it's 1/2 the amount of lines, but doubled) compared to everything else I've ever compressed. There are jagged edges everywhere... you can count the lines on certain objects in the frame... even/especially in progressive playback mode. It looks pretty bad. I've tried so many different settings and can't find a combination that works. Anyone out there with a solution?
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Hey Roderick,
i thought 720p material was only 59.94 or 60?
anyway, i am going to star with the basic questions, as in how are you exporting from FCP and how are you setting compressor?
you are down-resing your HD footage first, correct (in FCP)?
i am surprised that FCP cannot take in 23.98 @ 35 mbps, but this sounds like mpeg2 (since you are compressing from your camera).
i usually work on uncompressed 23.98fps and depending on the tape anywhere from 100 - 440 mbps and import to FCP no problem (although i still have to render it depending on how i am compositing).
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Hmm... I'm confused. In this case you and I know that the 60i footage is the same as 30p, but how would FCP know that? How could FCP know that it's not "real" 60i where the even/odd lines are offset, this every frame would need to be deinterlaced upon conversion to 30p?

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I remember you from the other TM-700K discussion. So I am assuming that the video is supposed to play at 29.97 frames per second, but what easy setup option do you use to optimize the 1080 60i footage? I thought it meant 60 frames per second. When I used the DVCPRO HD 1080i60 easy set up option Final Cut Pro converted that setting when I dragged items from the capture scratch window into the timeline. Do you have a good workflow that works well for the 1080i60 footage and if so could you possibly post it? Thanks for your help.

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You can used to Matrix3f
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for example:
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I have a bunch of old HF100 footage that I want to re-edit. Trouble is, I can't remember which ones are 30p and which are 60i (I want to tag them differently with iMakeFullHD). Other than looking at them, is there some quantitative way of telling which is which -- either from the mts file metadata or from the imported iMovie 09 movie metadata?
Thanks!

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As Jerry said, better to get a camera that does 24P. If that is impossible, I'd go for Nattress Film Effects - http://nattress.com - and shoot 60i.
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When we try to capture or playback on the sony deck using a tape with canon footage, it stutters and drops frames, anyone else having issues with this? Deck control is non existant when we hook up the canon to the system.

Well... yes and no... Canon's 60i will play thru the sony machine, and it will play from the camera on thru FCP, but without deck control. Everything else the canon shoots aka HDV (30p and 24p), the Sony deck will not play correctly at all. We just happened to have the Canon rep at our FCP user's group tonight, and this is what he reported. ALSO he said that FCP will be supporting this new format shortly... (whatever that means... LOL...) The camera itself is not currently supported by FCP.
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