Multiple computers & Airport Extreme
I have an AirPort extreme connected to a Cable modem.
I have a PC connected via ethernet to my AirPort.
I have an I Mac in a separate room that I connect to the AirPort Wirelessly.
I have a PC Laptop with Windows Vista I would like to add into the mix wirelessly. I've tried to establish a connection but not sure how to configure my PC to do this. It asks me in the setup to use a thumbdrive to transfer my settings. How do I get the settings from my IMAC? Can I use the thumbdrive? Also I have no idea what the password is for the WEP...how do I find that out?
Thank you,
Keith
keith, Welcome to the discussion area!
How do I get the settings from my IMAC?
The settings are probably very simple and set to AirPort and DHCP. You can verify this by opening the Network preference pane->AirPort->TCP/IP.
Also I have no idea what the password is for the WEP...how do I find that out?
On you iMac, open Keychain Access and look for the item with your network name. Open that and you will find the WEP password.
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Airport extreme (UFO) used for bridge for remote camera system.
Where do I start! This could be a whole page of frustrated user set up of my APE.
Anyhow, after several hours of trying to get it to work, I'l give a quick summary of what I'm trying to accomplish.
What I Have : Airport extreme (square) base station running B/G specs (universal for all my computers)
Airport extreme ( UFO ), trying to use as a remote bridge for my video surveillance system in my basement.
What I want to do : Make the APE UFO talk to the APE square to send signal from my remote camera system to my APE square in my office.
Seems like it should be simple enough, however, I'm beyond myself at this point in trying to make it work. Maybe my settings are wrong on one, or even both of the APE's.
Port forwarding? Could I be missing a important step here?
Any thoughts, or step by step walk through would be very much appreciated.
AJA.J. Jones wrote:
What I want to do : Make the APE UFO talk to the APE square to send signal from my remote camera system to my APE square in my office.
You'll need to create a "static WDS" arrangement. To do that, you'll first need to note the MAC addresses ("AirPort IDs") of each station. Launch AirPort Utility, enter "manual setup" mode for the square APE, then hold down an "option" key while you pull down the "Wireless Mode" list under the AirPort/Wireless panel. Pick the choice to "Participate in a WDS network". Fill in the details, declaring the square APE to be the "WDS Main" and the AirPort ID of the UFO station in the WDS Remote" list. Save the configuration. Now use AirPort Utility on the "UFO" APE. (You may need to connect to it with an Ethernet cable to see it.) Set the "Wireless Mode" the same, declaring the base station as a remote station. Be sure to use identical values for network name, wireless security method, network password, band, and channel on both stations. -
As the title suggests...
I have a mix of five Mac and PC's at home using an Airport Extreme Base Station as the router. I need many ports opened on the AEBS for all of the computers- not just one computer. (for example: three people want to play TF2 on Steam at the same time; each machine needs the correct ports open on the router). Port forwarding only allows me to forward a given port to a single IP, yet I need that port open for five differnt IP's, all at the same time.
How do I do that on an AEBS?
In the same way, I have a small office of four iMacs using an old airport with the same exact issue. I would like to be able to connect to all of them remotely with Apple Remote Desktop, but the port forwarding on the airport only allows a port to forward to a single IP. I want to be able to tunnel into the office network and log onto any machine behind the Airport extreme... not just a single IP. I currently have it set up where I can tunnel into the office from my house, I can find the one machine that the port forwarding has been assigned to, I can log on and everything is just fine... with one machine. How do I open the firewall for the other machines?
TL,DR version: How do you open ports on an Airport Extreme Base Station instead of forwarding ports? Forwarding ports doesn't work for multiple IP's.You can open a single or multiple ports to a single device or different ports to different devices, but you cannot open the same port to multiple devices via the AirPort Utility for the Apple routers.
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Airport Extreme - hard drive set up for multiple computers in network
I have been having problems setting up my USB portable hard drive into the Airport Extreme. I am trying to set it up so that I can access the hard drive using both my Apple Laptop and my Windows desktop. Could someone assist me with this? or perhaps point me to the right how to link?
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RaulCheck to see if the issue is with the following: In Windows double-click My Network Places. Select View Network Connections. Right-click on Local Area Connection and select Properties from the menu. Client for Microsoft Networks must be checked in order for any of the Apple disk software to work. If it isn't, check it and click OK.
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Can multiple devices access drives connected to Airport extreme at the same time?
i have a few days to decide before someone gets me either an airport extreme or a decent NAS adapater to using with my existing airport express, from the US. my airport express serves me good for all my networking needs but i have decided to take my portable media wireless.
i wanna know which will be the best option? to plug in the portable hdds to an a.extreme via a usb hub and share it across devices or to do the same with a nas adapter using my existing current generation a.express?
i got ios, android, mac and windows devices on my network. and an apple tv.
please share ur thoughts.
NeeravExpress is slow ethernet.. 10/100 only. The max speed of any connection to a USB hard disk is limited severely by the 100mbit..
USB is always slow btw.. This is actually a poor way to share a drive. A cheap NAS.. ie ethernet to Sata directly is far far superior and a single disk NAS can be had cheaply.. you will never get close with USB in network situations.
If you use a hub though, you can plug multiple disks into an Extreme.. I guess the network speed is at least no worse than the USB hub -- ethernet devices which are lousy as a whole.
Never forget you have the fastest ethernet adapters and fastest possible connectors already on computers on the network.. people are so utterly mesmerized by NAS they forget.. a FW800 or better USB3 if you have a newer computer shared to the network from a computer has much higher throughput and is much cheaper than even the very low end network stand alone boxes. -
Accessing multiple macs with ARD from remote location with Airport Extreme
We have an office with a newer Airport Extreme and three macs on the network. We have turned on the Apple Remote Desktop in the port forwarding, but we can only access one computer at a time, and only if we port map it to the local IP of that computer (Ex 10.0.1.2).
We would like to be able to access all three computers from a remote location. My question is this -
Can I have a wildcard IP, or is there an IP I should use for ARD?
Do I set up multiple port mapping with different ports and IPs?
All computers are running 10.6.1 with the latest ARD updates.
Any assistance would be appreciated.Great answer by Dave Sawyer:
"To be able to connect to a workstation from outside it's network, the ports that ARD uses must be open on both ends of the connection. ARD uses ports 3283 and 5900 so those must be open.
If your workstations get their addresses from an NAT device rather than being "real", the ports also need to be forwarded in the router to the workstation's internal IP address. ARD uses port 3283 for the reporting and updating function, so if your Macs are getting their IP addresses through NAT, since you can only forward a port to a single workstation, you can only get reports, push package/files to etc. for a single workstation.
ARD uses the VNC protocol for observation and control, though, and there are a range of IP addresses for that protocol, starting with 5900. ARD uses 5900 by default, so that port would be forwarded to the first workstation. To be able to control more than one system, though, you would need to install VNC servers on the systems (since the ARD client cannot listen on any port other than 5900 while VNC servers can be set for other ports such as 5901, 5902, etc. You would then forward 5901 to the second workstation (and on to 5902, 5903, etc.). You can then use the following information:
Remote Desktop 2: How to specify a port number for a VNC client to connect. -http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22880
The only other options are: 1) to run the ARD administrator on a workstation on the network, and then take control of that system from outside, either via VNC or another copy of ARD, or 2) set up a virtual private network (VPN) so that when you connect from outside, your admin system is officially part of the local network.
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I have this working, but only by completely bypassing access control, using guest access with read+write permissions.
Do I need to buy Lion Server, to do this. All my past unix/linux experience says Lion Server should _not_ be necessary.
This seems like a simple & obvious setup objective, but it is proving to be harder than I would imagine.
Setup:
multiple users, sharing two mac mini's running OSX Lion
connected to an Airport Extreme (4th gen) with a USB disk shared (either via disk password, AEBS password, or using AEBS user's passwords).
After much experimentation and web research, I finally have managed to get the mini's to auto mount the Airport Extreme's AFP shared USB disk. Well almost... It only works if, on the Airport, I set the guest access permissions to read+write and select the "Secure Shared Disks" method to "With disk password" or "with Airport Extreme password". In other words, it only works if I essentially bypass/disable access control by using the guest authentication mechanism to the AFP shared disk.
On the Lion side of this, I am automounting the users directories via "autofs". The config files for this are
/etc/auto_master:
# Automounter master map
+auto_master # Use directory service
/net -hosts -nobrowse,hidefromfinder,nosuid
/home auto_home -nobrowse,hidefromfinder
/Network/Servers -fstab
/- -static
/- auto_afp
/etc/auto_afp:
# Automounter AFP master map
# https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3336384?start=0&tstart=0
/afp/users -fstype=afp afp://;AUTH=No%20User%[email protected]/Users/
Then, after rebooting and verifying read+write access to the /afp/users directories, I change each user's home directory: In System Preferences > System > Users & Groups, I right-click over the users to access the Advanced Options, changing the Home directory field to point at the AFP-mounted /afp/users/Users/* home directories.
I experimented with alternate UAM specifications, as well as both OSX and AESB users & passwords. Using guest access is the only thing that has worked.
Any pointers would be appreciated...Based on lots more experimentation which confirms the information in a parallel discussion (cf. Automount share as non ROOT or SYSTEM user! https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3221944), I have concluded that the Lion 10.7.2 implementation of AutoFS mechanism is broken. I submitted a bug report via apple.com/feedback.
Work arounds..?
Earlier I wondered if installing Lion OSX Server was necessary. The more I contemplate this, the more I am convinced it _should_not_ be necessary. The client-server architecture is clear: my mac's are the file-server client's and the Airport Extreme is supposed to act as the file server. The only thing instaling Lion Server would do (besides enriching Apple.com) is enable me to configure one of the mac's as the file server. This would require it to be "always on" (thus enriching my electric utility as wel). Okay, an additional benefit would be configuring software RAID disks attached to the Lion server, but Time Machine has worked fine for me in the past, backing up to disks mounted on the Airport Extreme.
One solution is to create a disk partition for each user and instruct each user to connect / authenticate to the Airport Extreme AFP share at login. The multiplicity of partitions is necessary since the first user to mount the AFP share, takes ownership of it, blocking other users from accessing that disk partition. A user can "steal" ownership by reconnecting, but this will leave the other user's applications & open files dangling.
This disfunctional situation really *****. Before instaling Lion, I put a 64 GB SSD (solid state disk) in each of our mac's. I did this expecting to easily configure the /Users/* data on external networked storage. I'm having a dejavu "Bill Gates"-ware moment; problems like this were why I abandoned Windoz.
I will make a few more experiments using the depreciated /etc/fstab mechanism. Maybe that will bypass the broken-ness of AutoFS...? Alternately, I guess I could also try to run Kerberos authentication to bypass whatever is broken in AutoFS, but that would require a running a Kerberos daemon somewhere. Possibly I could configure a Kerberos service to run on both my mac's (without installing Apple's Lion Server)...?
Stay tuned... -
Multiple devices no longer work with Airport Extreme
I can’t get multiple devices to work with my Airport Extreme any longer. Normally, I have 4 wireless devices with my Airport Extreme: MacBook Pro, iPhone 5, Sony Wireless Blu-Ray Player, and Windows Laptop. On a daily basis, I use the MacBook Pro and iPhone 5 at the same time on the network. I have even had all 4 devices on the network without a problem.
Problem: Since last night, I cannot use any of the devices on the network at the same time. Every time I try to use two devices, I am asked to login into to my ISP and the device currently on the network is booted off.
Additional info: I live in an apartment complex and use the complex’s ISP. Unusually, since yesterday another device (my guess is a neighbor’s Airport Express) has been showing up in my AirPort Utility. I cannot access that device because it is password protected.
Attempted Solutions: I have tried a soft reboot, hard reboot, and factory reboot of the Airport Extreme, but still have the same problem. I have also cycled the modem on a repeated basis.
The ISP does not think it is their problem as I can still connect to them through either directly plugging into the modem/outlet or through the AirPort Extreme. The ISP has great customer service and are usually very helpful, so I don’t think they are trying to blow me off.
Perhaps, my AirPort Extreme’s settings are off.
If anyone can provide me with a possible solution, it would be greatly appreciated.I have tried a soft reboot, hard reboot, and factory reboot of the Airport Extreme
A factory reset on the AirPort Extreme would have configured the AirPort Extreme to act as a router, providing normal DHCP and NAT services for your network.
But, the symptoms that you describe indicate that the AirPort Extreme's Router Mode settings may be configured for "Off (Bridge Mode)".....a setting in which another router at the apartment complex would be responsible for allowing multiple devices on your network to connect.
Using your MacBook Pro, we need to check the Router Mode setting on your AirPort Extreme as follows:
Open Finder > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on the AirPort Extreme icon
Click Edit in the smaller window that appears
Click the Network tab at the top of the next window
Please check the current setting for Router Mode and report on what that setting might be.......either DHCP and NAT......or "Off (Bridge Mode)". -
How many computers can be connected to Airport Extreme?
Hi, we have some kind of medium sized network at home: currently we have about 15-20 devices (Macs, PCs and network printers) that are all connected together by a D-Link DI624+ router. However, for time to time that way too much for the router so we're continously looking forward for a new solution that can handle this amount of devices but still is cheap.
Do you have experience with Airport Extreme as a router for 15 to 20 computers/network devices getting Internet from and being controlled by it? Does it work without problems and is it reliable?
Out current router often crashes, needs restarts and sometimes looses the whole configuration when more computers are active at the same time.
Thanks a lot for you ideas!Right from Apple's main page for the Airport Extreme.
http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/
"With the new AirPort Extreme Base Station, you and up to 50 of your friends, colleagues, or family members can enjoy a robust wireless network offering up to five times the performance and up to twice the range of networks created with the earlier 802.11g standard.2" -
Remote access the airport extreme usb hard drive over the internet with multiple users?
I just purchase the new airport extreme 802.11n and set it up on my LAN behind a comcast modem with broadband. I plugged a 3 tb Seagate hard drive formatted with fat32 (default) to it and have set it up for access for all of my computers, ipad, iphone, android in my house. Everything works as expected, internet access, file access to the USB HD on all devices locally through back to my mac. I would now like to allow my daughters in another state to access this drive through the Airport Extreme remotely from their location and have there own accounts on this hard drive to store and move their files for on the go access. I have studied many of the forums and have enabled share disks over WAN, Enable file sharing but no body really gives an exact method of connecting remotely. I had one of my daughters try on her Macbook Pro laptop through the finder, connect to server, by giving her the IP address. She could see the name of the Airport Extreme but could not access the hard disk and got a "Not able to connect message". I am obviously missing something simple that needs to be checked or setup but have drained my brain trying to figure it out. Most of the forums describe clicking manuel setup on the Airport utility, but with version 6.1 this is now where to be found. I have a DYN account but could not figure out where to input this in the Airport utility.
There is a network option which has DHCP lease and range and a box for Enable NAT port Mapping Protocal with Enable default host at:
I am guessing that this is for some other purpose though. Please helpTry installing AirPort Utility 5, then you may be able to follow the guides you mentioned earlier:
http://macintoshdesktop.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/airport-utility-56-and-mountain-l ion.html -
AirPort Extreme - Can't Ping or See Other LAN Computers
I recently reset my AirPort Extreme in order to get it to work with a new cable modem (per Apple Care suggestion). The device had worked fine until I replaced my modem. The reset resolved the problem. However, I'm no longer able to ping (or utilize any connection like RDP or shared iTunes libraries with) other computers on the network. All of my computers access the Internet without a problem - it's like they're isolated from other systems on the network. I've looked at all of the AirPort Extreme settings and can't find anything obvious.
Again, this worked fine before I reset the device. Any ideas?Hello elmnoise. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
At this point I would strongly suggest a complete power recycle of your networking components ... even though you have already reset the AEBSn.
Please try the following:
o Power-down the modem, AEBSn, and computer(s); wait at least 10-15 minutes.
o Power-up the modem; wait at least 10-15 minutes.
o Power-up the AEBSn; wait at least 5-10 minutes.
o Power-up the computer(s).
Computers, connected by wire or wireless to the AEBSn, should now get both access to the Internet and to other computers on the same subnet created by the AEBSn.
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Something has changed recently and I haven't figured it out. My 2 Windows XP computers are no longer able to print via Bonjour. I have tried removing and reinstalling Bonjour. Upgrading the firmware on the AIrport Extreme Base Station and comparing Port settings from an able to print Windows Vista laptop. Port settings match and Bonjour says it sees the printer...but the communication is not happening between the computer and the networked printer, it times out and produces an error in the print que. Both XP computers have no problem using the internet via the Base Station. One is wired and one is wireless. Thoughts?
Sounds a bit like a problem being discussed in this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2651093&tstart=0
I suspect some kind of update is at fault. Like you, my printer/base station setup had been working fine until recently. -
I have set up a wireless network in my office using a couple of Airport Extremes, and, for some reason, our Windows computers are able to view the password of the network. Well, given that we employ teenagers, you can imagine what happens when they all find out the password. We want to restrict network access to only those devices we deem necessary. How do I accomplish this?
SidMed wrote:
We need 18-20 devices to access, all wirelessly.
You can keep using your Apple routers as AP devices.. but get a router running a secure OS as the actual router that controls the network..
If you have 18-20 teens on the network.. then setting quota and restrictions on bandwidth is far more important than time..
Gargoyle on a cheap router can do it.. eg WNDR3800 or the newer W1024ND v2.
Simply turn off the wireless in these devices.. and use the ethernet connection to the airport as WAP.
Honestly you just will never get the security or control using apple domestic routers. -
Airport extreme and windows vista/8 computers
Are there any issues with the new airport extreme ac and windows based computers here?
You only need one device with AirPort Utility installed on it to configure the new AirPort Extreme.
As I mentioned above, this could be a Mac running the Lion or Mountain Lion operating system, or an iPhone, iPad, or iPod.
You only need to install AirPort Utility on a device if you want to use that device to 1) set up the AirPort Extreme originally, or 2) make changes to the original configuration at a later time.
AirPort Utility is not needed if you simply want to connect a PC...or any other wireless device.....to the wireless network that the AirPort Extreme is providing.
If someone told you that AirPort Utility was needed on the PC for it to be able to connect to the AirPort Extreme wireless network, they were wrong.
Currently, with relatives visiting, there are 3 PCs here at the house....none of which have AirPort Utility installed on them. But they all connect just fine to the wireless network provided by the new AirPort Extreme here. -
Setting up my Airport Extreme properly with multiple routers on a home network
I have a 4 bedroom house that over the years has had router after router added in different rooms. I recently bought an airport extreme and an airport express as I am getting sick of not being able to network everything as well as to have one strong wifi.
So I have set up the Extreme in my office and the express at the far end of the house and it's doing wonders in boosting the wireless signal. This is what I am trying to solve:
How do I make all the wired routers apart of my wired and wireless network? The router/modem that was installed by Verizon obviously should stay. I read in another forum that NAT should be turned on and all other routers shouldn't but would be bridged. I logged into the admin settings for the router and couldn't find any place to change this.
As you can tell, I am no IT. So I am sure this may all be confusing. My ultimate goal is to have a shared hard drive on my airport extreme and shared printer on my express and all computers on the same network, communicating to each other. Currently I have 3 routers + airport extreme and express all connected.
Hope someone has the patients to help me out.
Thanks.Good diagram!
In that case you definitely want the D-Link to act as a switch, and its manual describes how to do it:
(page 10)
Connect to Another Router
If you are connecting the D-Link router to another router to use as a wireless access point and/or switch, you will have to do the following before connecting the router to your network:
Disable UPnPTM
Disable DHCP
Change the LAN IP address to an available address on your network. The LAN ports on the router cannot accept a DHCP address from your other router.
To connect to another router, please follow the steps below:
Plug the power into the router. Connect one of your computers to the router (LAN port) using an Ethernet cable. Make sure your IP address on the computer is 192.168.0.xxx (where xxx is between 2 and 254). Please see the Networking Basics section for more information. If you need to change the settings, write down your existing settings before making any changes. In most cases, your computer should be set to receive an IP address automatically in which case you will not have to do anything to your computer.
Open a web browser and enter http://192.168.0.1 and press Enter. When the login window appears, set the user name to Admin and leave the password box empty. Click Log In to continue.
Click on Advanced and then click Advanced Network. Uncheck the Enable UPnP checkbox. Click Save Settings to continue.
Click Setup and then click Network Settings. Uncheck the Enable DHCP Server server checkbox. Click Save Settings to continue.
Under Router Settings, enter an available IP address and the subnet mask of your network. Click Save Settings to save your settings. Use this new IP address to access the configuration utility of the router in the future. Close the browser and change your computer’s IP settings back to the original values as in Step 1.
Disconnect the Ethernet cable from the router and reconnect your computer to your network.
Connect an Ethernet cable in one of the LAN ports of the router and connect it to your other router. Do not plug anything into the Internet port of the D-Link router.
You may now use the other 3 LAN ports to connect other Ethernet devices and computers. To configure your wireless network, open a web browser and enter the IP address you assigned to the router. Refer to the Configuration and Wireless Security sections for more information on setting up your wireless network.
While reading the above bear in mind the Verizon box is your router. Don't overlook any of the details in these instructions - read all of it and understand its implications. If I were doing it the first thing I'd want to know is how to reset the DIR-601 to factory defaults since I'd be sure to muck it up about a dozen times before getting it right.
It sounds as though your Express is configured correctly. It is providing a wireless access point for your wired network, the one created by your Verizon router.
The optimal configuration for this design is to configure the Express to create a network using the exact same wireless network name and password as the one created by your Verizon router, otherwise you will have two wireless networks. Leave its "channel" on "automatic" so it won't conflict with whatever the Verizon is using.
It will look a little like this:
I'm assuming some of your devices still need 802.11g so the "radio mode" will most likely need to be b/g compatible.
When everything is up and running, experiment with the wireless transmitter power for the Verizon router as well as the Express. It's best to use the least amount that will work for you, so as not to create needless wireless interference for everyone else. This also minimizes the possibility of people piggybacking on - or trying to hack into - your wireless network.
As far as getting your Windows computer to see your external HD, I haven't a clue. I'm sure it's possible but I'm not a Windows expert.
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