My complaints about VZW's lack of good "feature" phones

In an effort to save on my wireless bill (college kids have to do that) I have moved from my beloved LG Ally to a KIN TWOm. Upon seeing  the selection of  "feature" phones that VZW offers, I was left with an empty feeling. Verizon has to have the worst selection of "feature" or "quick messaging" phones in the business. Gone are the glory days of the ENv Touch, Rogue, Chocolate Touch (piece of crap really), and Reality (still found in some stores). Now we (the customer) are stuck with offerings like the Cosmos Touch and the Pantech Crux as well as the KINs. As far as the Cosmos and Crux is concerned, they are far from enticing. So is the once overly hyped KIN series the only appealing decives they offer for those looking to save? Looks that way.
Let's take a look at what competitors like ATT and T Mobile have to offer (I use them as they are now, technically, "bigger" than VZW). ATT has a spectacular selection within their "quick messaging" phones. Some of those that shine brightest are the LG Vu Plus, Samsung Eternity II, Samsung Solstice, HTC Freestyle, and the Pantech Laser (among others). All of these phones offer a
resistive touch screen or better, as well as, at the least, a 2mp camera. All of them also come with some type of social network integration. The Samsung also include an intuitive display that allows you to place widgets on up to three homescreens. The Freestyle provides a smartphone experience without the data package price, and the Laser is acclaimed as the thinnest sliding phone ever.
T Mobile has the Samsung Gravity T, t249, t359 and  Nokia Nuron (these stick out to me most). The t249 and t359 aren't touch screen phones, but they have clean interfaces and social networking integration. The Gravity has a 2mp camera, good color choices, and a great OS. The Nuron isn't the greatest phone, but it offers a capacitive touchscreen and a good user experience. Even though T Mobile's selection isn't as good as ATT's, it trounces VZWs'.
If you don't have the pleasure of choosing from great selections (those of ATT and T Mobile) then like most, if not all of us here, you are stuck between choosing a flip phone dating back at least four years (Accolade), one approved by military standards (Ravine, Brigade, Barrage, etc...) or one of the touchscreen "feature" phones VZW offers. The Cosmos Touch, Crux or KIN ONEm or KIN TWOm. What is so bad about these phones? Well, I can't say too much is wrong with the KINs, aside from them carrying a half-baked OS (the potential these phones had was astoundingly lost in bad marketing and under development). The Crux on the other-hand is a pain to use. Considering its unresponsive touch screen, and sluggish performance it makes for a terrible user experience. This leaves the Cosmos Touch-it is no ENv Touch. It lacks a good camera, no way to record video, and a bad screen resolution. 
The way I see it is that the only decent "feature" phones VZW offers are the KINs ONEm and TWOm. They are equipped with WiFi, 5 and 8mp cameras (respectively) capacitive touchscreens, and a decent web browser. These are features that ATT and T Mobile do not offer on their "quick messaging" phones (1 point for VZW). Too bad they only come with a stripped OS (no more LOOP or KIN SPOT) because these features were too "data heavy"  and, in all honesty, made them too much like smartphones. Nor do they include Backup Assist support, or any access to the VZW apps (really not a big deal anyway). At least when using a KIN you aren't bombarded with VZW marketing and logos. 
Before I settled on the KIN TWOm I checked to see if I could get my hands on a Samsung Rogue (re-certified). The only way I could only get it is to pay $159. For a re-certified phone? I don't think so. It is obvious that while ATT and T Mobile are still keeping those in mind who can't afford a smartphone, VZW is forgetting them. They are throwing the "feature" phone to the wind and concentrating on selling expensive smartphones. I will say that they are making smartphones more affordable, but it is not yet enough.
In the end I will stick with VZW, as long as I can afford it....they really do have the best coverage. But I will be a disgruntle customer stuck with a pathetic selection of "feature" phones until the day I go back to my smartphone (out of college maybe?). I will now step off of my soapbox.
Thanks to those of you who read this, and I hope VZW takes this seriously.

The main point of the post was to provide a solid comparison of the lower end phones offered by the three most major carriers in order to show that VZW is falling behind (albeit in brief). I will admit that that did get lost as my post dragged on. The problem is that Verizon does not offer a good enough selection of phones to choose from for those trying to save by going the lower end route.
Thier selection of phones has indeed changed. Comparing the latest run of "feature" phones to the phones they offered not just two years ago, I can see a change. The quallity and build of the products is the same, but the capabilities are lower. If you look back at the phones I mentioned from ATT and compare them to the touchscreen phones that Verizon offers, I think you will see a difference in features. You can get previous phones; but by doing so you forfeit the ability of getting insurance, or any other replacements.
When I said that T Mobile and ATT are bigger than VZW, I am taking into account the merger that is currently taking place. Once the merger is 100% complete they will have about 30 million more subscribers than VZW. I doubt that T Mobile's quick messaging phones will become obsolete like Alltel's did. T Mobile is larger and thier phones are better known.
I agree that VZW has better customer service (many sources can prove this), but I do not agree that ATT's  phones are garbage. They carry Samsung, LG, and Pantech. VZW carries the same brands (+ Sharp). I will again agree that VZW is the best all around, except for the selection of  "feature" phones. A reason I will stay with Verizon is that they have good customer service, and great reception everywhere, if this were not the case I would switch carriers simply for the chance to get a better lower end phone. I also stay with them in hopes of being able to get a smartphone back one day-VZW has a fantastic selection of them.

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    here is my original post from yesterday:
    I am creating this post to make public a complaint i have about unethical practices and poor customer service with Verizon.
    Here is the story:
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    This post was followed by an online chat with a verizon person last night- who, after reviewing my acct and the notes on the acct said the following:
    {edited for privacy}
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