Need for Group asset

Hi Experts
Any body guide me about group assets we have Building, Plant and machinery,vehicles,computer,furniture&fittings
I need to configure seperate asset class for each asset or I can maintain same asset class for all assets
please guide me,
Regards,
Vani

Hello,
As a general rule, the system calculates depreciation at the level of individual assets. Certain types of calculation needs or tax requirements (such as in the U.S.A.) make it necessary, however, to calculate depreciation at a higher level. For this purpose, you can group assets in the FI-AA system together into so-called group assets. You can group assets together per depreciation area to form group assets.
Definition: group asset
Asset Accounting (FI-AA)
A combination of a number of assets for the purposes of a common, summarized calculation of depreciation.
A group asset is represented in the SAP System by a separate master
record.
So it is up to your requirement weather you want to go with Group Asset or not.
But the rate of Depreciation is different for asset classes so it is better not to go with Group Asset.
Regards
Ravi

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Hi Experts,
I am getting a problem while doing depreciation for group asset
Ex: 80,000; Rate 10%
total depreiaiton p.a is Rs 8000/-
as per the Indian standards if it is below 180 days it should take Rs 4000/-, but in my system it is showing Rs 3333.33
my depreciation start date & capitlization date is 01.11.2007.
Regards,
Satya Vani.

Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
In these depreciation areas, it is then possible to make an assignment to a group asset. You make this assignment in the specifications for the depreciation area in the asset master record. When you post an acquisition to this kind of asset, the system duplicates the line items from this depreciation area on the given group asset.
2 ) According to me you have to create different depreciation keys for Group Asset classes. Assign the Depreciation keys to your newly created Group Asset Classes in OAYZ and make sure you are deactivating 01 area which is Book Depreciation area.
3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
I hope this will clear your doubt makes you to understand. Please revert back for further clarification. Welcome you.
Regards,
Pankaj A Bhalerao.
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Dear experts,
I have creted one main asset . and i have created group asset. and my main asset class and group asset class are both are different.If i continue that error assets are shoud be craeted .but the depreciation key and usefull life and ordinary depreciation will going and it's showing grey.
My question at the time of assighning the group asset for the particular assets the below error is comming.
Account assignment for group asset is different from that in asset
Message no. AA810
Diagnosis
The account allocation 14000 of the group asset 140000001 0 is different from account allocation 1000 of the asset.
System Response
This error needs to be corrected for balance sheet valuation (usually determined in depreciation area 01). For all other depreciation areas, this is only a warning you should check.
Procedure
Check your entry. When an individual asset has a different account assignment than the group asset, it is not possible to reconcile the individual asset to the group asset in reporting by means of accounts.
kindly help on this issue
regards
venkataswamy

Hi sudhakar
Thanks for your reply
1) for example i have buliding asset class and i have one group asset class.under the building asset account determination i have assighned the gl a/c for both b/s and book deprecitaion
In groups asset class also i have done same things. i have craeted asset under building asset class and created one asset under group assets.
then assighned the group asset to main assets. the error is comming like this Account assignment for group asset is different from that in asset
I have serched in sdn forum and service .sap.com . they are saying you can use same gl a/c for both asset class.for depreciation .i have tried this scenario. still i am getting the same error and same problem.
The most important thing is we are working on ECC 6 versions
sap note 76186.
Kindly help me
Regards
venkataswamy
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MANUAL DEPRECIATION FOR GROUP ASSET

dear sap gurus
i want to post manual depreciaiton to an asset which is attached to a group asset
could anyone tell the ways to do it please
regards
srini

Hi
Please check Transaction Code: OAYM - Specify Depreciation Areas for Group Assets
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How to accout unplanned depreciation for group assets

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Unplanned depreciation is accounted for group assets few years ago.This is for special depreciation areas.
Now i would like to reverse this amount as write up unpalnned depreciation, but system is throwing eror message that: This function is not possible for group assets.
OR
The issue what we are facing is special dep areas has one cent as -ve acquisition due to which we are unable to deactivate the asset. This one cent was accounted as unplanned dep few years ago. How do we make the APC as zero when it has -ve APC in special dep areas.
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This is not possible in the standard and this is not a from SAP intended and provided solution. Therefore I ask you to be really careful and test it bevore on a test system. (and perhaps to discuss this with your SAP consultant)
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How we can identify that an asset class can be used only for group assets and not for individual assets.

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HI
A group asset is represented in the system by a separate master record. The structure of this master record corresponds to the structure of the normal asset master record. You can determine the structure of this master record using screen layout control, just as you do for normal master records. Just the same as a normal asset, a group asset can have any number of sub-numbers. In this way it is possible, for example, to collect all the acquisitions for one year in a single sub-number master record at the level of the group asset.
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Group assets can only be deleted when all the assets belonging to them have been marked for deletion.
Group assets can only manage depreciation areas that have been specially marked. You mark them using an indicator in the company code specific specifications for the depreciation area (FI-AA Customizing: Specify depreciation areas for group assets).
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Amit SHinde
Acknowledge If satisfied
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Issue on migration of tax depreciation balances for group assets

Dear Experts,
My client is using group assets for tax depreciation report India.
The SAP implementation was done in 2006 during the data migration the
client was not clear of the values both individual asset wise and
group asset wise to migrate to tax depreciation area. So the tax
depreciation for some of the assets are migrated with some
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Hi,
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I have an internal table having 6 .
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a     aa    11    p1 10    10
a     aa    12    p1 20    20
b     aa    11    p2 30    30
b     aa    12    p2 40    30
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BEGIN OF cur_tab OCCURS 0,
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    f2(2)     TYPE c,
    f3(2)     TYPE c,
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    f6        TYPE p,
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DATA:
BEGIN OF final_tab OCCURS 0,
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    f2(2)     TYPE c,
    f3(2)     TYPE c,
    f4(2)     TYPE c,
    f5(5)     TYPE c,
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Regards,
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this is running fine when I calculate the depreciation on Individual Assets.
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K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              3     15     2
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              4     15     3
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              5     15     4
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              6     15     5
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              7     15     6
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              8     15     7
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              9     15     8
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              10     15     9
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              11     15     10
K4     02     Pro rata upto mid-period at period start date              12     15     11
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