Need of creating receiver determination and interface determination

what is the need of creating interface determination where as providing all the details in Receiver determination?

Hi,
The loose coupling between the Interface mapping and receiver determination have provided the compatibility for reusability.
The Interface determination maintained and just linked to receiver determination so you could have multiple receiver determinations with common interface determination or vice-versa.
If you provide all the information in receiver determination then, it would be very dfficult to have the various mappins for multiple receivers maintained in receiver determination.
Interface determination is applied at runtime to all messages to be processed. Thus from security point of view of transaction of data. its preferable.
Thanks
Swarup

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  • Receiver Determination and Interface Determination

    Hi,
    Please, can anyone explain what is the concept of 'Receiver determination' and 'Interface Determination'?
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    Hi,
    >>>>Receiver determination
    its about finding the receiver system for particular source system and outbound interface.
    Suppose,you want to send data from file->XI->SAP and CRM based on some condition
    in this scenario you need to determine whether to send file data to SAP or CRM system,this decision you will do in Receiver determination
    in Receiver determination screen you need to provide the following details
    1.Source system(ex: File system)
    2.Outbound Interface(File Message Interface)
    3.condition and receiving system(ex:if some x field value in source payload is 1 go to SAP elseif '0' go to CRM system)
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    suppose in above scenario you determined the receiver i.e SAP,you will have number of IDOCs (Inbound Interfaces)in SAP.
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    Enhanced Interface Determination--> It is when you want the target interfaces to be defined dynamically based on the multimapping, that is called enhanced interface determination.
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    Hi,
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    Interface Determination Condition (ReceiverA) : When Field1=100 and Field2=50 message should flow to a specific interface in ReceiverA
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    2) Field1=100, Field2=89 : Message fails to process from ECC itself throwing Interface Determination not found error. Ideally this is a positive scenario for ReceiverB and it should send the message to ReceiverB without any errors. But, this did not happen in this case
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    As there are two receivers Receiver A and Receiver B.You need to create two bussiness components and two communcication channels for two receivers and one Reciver Determination, two Interface Determination,two Receiver Agreement.In Receiver Determination you need to keep the below and condition.
    In the above screenshot the two receiver are Receiver B and Receiver C and Field 1 is Key_Value and Field2 is Emp_ID.
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  • Receiver Agreement and Interface determination

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    Hi Experts,
          What is the difference between Receiver determination and Interface determination?
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    Can't we use only interface mapping? Why SAP is providing these two determinations?
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    Hi,
    ><i>In both the case we specify sender -> outbound interface -> Receiver Service - Interface mapping</i>
    In receiver determination you only mention the Sender Service, Sender Interface and Reciever Service. You do not mention the Inbound Interafce and interface mapping. You do this in the Interface Determination.
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    >
    Shobha HB wrote:
    > I have a flat file to flat file scenario. Based on the input file content, I want to route data to the receiver.
    >
    > My source flat file contains several IDOC details. Assume two fields FIELD1 and FIELD2 in different segments of the IDOC. My requirement is if FIELD1 of an IDOC = "US" and FIELD2 of the same IDOC = "CA", then that IDOC's details needs to be passed to the receiver.
    >
    > I have implemented the above condition at interface determination.
    >
    > But the problem is:
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    >
    > But I need to check this condition IDOCwise. Both the conditions to be satisfies in the same IDOC.
    >
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    >
    > Can someone help me on the same. Please let me know if more information is required.
    >
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