Receiver determination Vs Interface determination

Hi Experts,
      What is the difference between Receiver determination and Interface determination?
In both the case we specify sender -> outbound interface -> Receiver Service -> Interface mapping
Can't we use only interface mapping? Why SAP is providing these two determinations?
Thanks
Gopal

Hi,
><i>In both the case we specify sender -> outbound interface -> Receiver Service - Interface mapping</i>
In receiver determination you only mention the Sender Service, Sender Interface and Reciever Service. You do not mention the Inbound Interafce and interface mapping. You do this in the Interface Determination.
The split between Receiver Determination and Interfacedetermiantion is so that you can add send the same message to Multiple Receivers and then fior each of the receivers , if needed you can add multiple Inbound Interafces / mappings!!
And you can add multiple conditions as well!! makes sense to me!
regards
Bhavesh

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    Message was edited by:
            Vasanthakumar Balasubramani
    Message was edited by:
            Vasanthakumar Balasubramani

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